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My goodness you’re cranky.

If Apple had higher manufacturing costs, would they keep the price of iPhone the same?
Possibly, it makes sense now with the reveal of the service increases. They ate the extra HW costs to keep/gain users so they could bam them with service increases
 
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Reducing costs for Apple has not reduced the cost for consumers. We're still paying higher premium iPhone prices. Even the iPhone SE model isn't cheap.
No, it hasn’t reduced cost, but it has led to not increasing the cost of iPhones.

More profit for Apple, sure, but also we don’t have $2000 iPhones because of rising production/manufacturing costs.
 
“Thinness at all costs” was never Ive’s design philosophy and is a pretty big misunderstanding of not only the talent that Ive had but also why Apple was such a leader in the product design space. Each product has a clear focus and an intention. Apple’s portables priortized portability, yes, but that wasn’t at all costs and it wasn’t just on a whim. Now the products just exist to fill as many pricing gaps as possible, with the absolute least compelling iPhone and iPad lineup in years, that’s more confusing to customers than ever. It makes shareholders money in the short term, so no one complains, but the soul of the company is dead and consumer trust is eroding.
Magic Mouse sucks. iPhone 4 had antenna gate. iPhone 6 bent. Every single 2010-2011 MacBook Pro *will* have dGPU issues. 2016 MacBook Pros were a disaster.

Funny how Apple's products have gotten a lot more usable (if uglier) in the years since Ive left.

90% of US teenagers owning an iPhone is evidence of eroding consumer trust, got it.
 
The new MacBook Air isn’t better than the curved m1
The M1 MacBook Pros were a home run. The M2 Air is pretty obviously phoned in. It looks good IMO, but where the Pros feel like they were designed that way with intent, the M2 looks like somebody just shrunk some dimensions in CAD and then called it a day. For all the good things I feel like Apple has been doing with design over the past few years, there's still plenty of issues (monitor without a removable power cable anyone?).
 
assuming apple wouldn't increases prices yet even more than they do today.
They will . I mean, they can . People will buy anyway . They know it .

1479€ for an iPhone 14 pro max in Europe really hurts

And im repeating myself once again, the new MacBook Pro m2 pros Will also see a 400-500€ price increase , be prepared
 
Not just costs. Since Ive left we got practical designs again. All the form over function designs Ive made that crippled so many products finally got reversed and they're now better than ever (except the mouse. For some reason they haven't reverted that one yet.)

Plus we're getting cheaper machines as a result. Hope we get some more cheaper Macs because of this, and maybe a monitor that isn't absurdly overpriced lmao.
Since Ive left we are getting ugly devices. The new MacBook Pro's are ugly compared to the 2019 16" Pro, thats a thing of beauty. They should have just slapped a M1 Pro chip in it, then we would have not got the nasty notch.

The new M1 iMac looks disgusting, vulgar even, makes my eyes bleed just looking at it. White bezels and no Apple logo on the front , YUCK!

I'm for practical designs, but at least make them look good.
 
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Since Ive left we are getting ugly devices. The new MacBook Pro's are ugly compared to the 2019 16" Pro, thats a thing of beauty. They should have just slapped a M1 Pro chip in it, then we would have not got the nasty notch.

The new M1 iMac looks disgusting, vulgar even, makes my eyes bleed just looking at it. White bezels and no Apple logo on the front , YUCK!

I'm for practical designs, but at least make them look good.
Even though I personally do not see MacBook Pros as ugly, almost everyone in my circle has said it was either ugly or not Apple-like.

As for the new iMac, it's an abomination compared to the previous design.
 
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Apple today is more of a chip company first and design second. People buy MacBooks because of their best in class performance per watt and battery life. No one has ever said that the 2021 MacBook Pro‘s are the best looking laptops they’ve ever seen. Most people would say they look utilitarian. It makes perfect sense to me why the design team is dissolving. Apple is a different company now. Tim Cook and Johny Srouji are now running the show.
I agree these MacBooks have great performance. Utilitarian? I disagree on that. They look sleek and beautiful, but I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
 
You literally just described every generation of Powerbook, iBook, MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro that offered more than one size.
Hey now, the 12 inch PowerBook and the 17 inch PowerBook were way more than a mass shrink in CAD, the aspect ratio changed, the 12 inch is thicker, etc. They would have had to tweak each dimension individually for that one.

In seriousness though, I never said that wasn't what they've always done within a product line. The issue is that the Air and the Pro are not the same product line. For me the high point of Apple's laptop design was back around when the Air was first introduced, and at that time you had Pros, Air, and base MacBooks that were all designed individually. In comparison the design of the M2 Air just feels... redundant.
 
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Magic Mouse sucks. iPhone 4 had antenna gate. iPhone 6 bent. Every single 2010-2011 MacBook Pro *will* have dGPU issues. 2016 MacBook Pros were a disaster.

Funny how Apple's products have gotten a lot more usable (if uglier) in the years since Ive left.

90% of US teenagers owning an iPhone is evidence of eroding consumer trust, got it.
You’re confusing engineering issues with design.

Please go think different as the Apple slogan when Apple was a great company went.
 
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This. There has to be balance in all things. Form over function made stuff sexy but not always best performing. I wouldn’t call the new stuff soulless, but there are some cost cutting measures that have me scratching my head (plastic spacer!)
What’s that plastic spacer people keep talking about? The place where the SIM card tray used to be (and still is, in iPhones produced for most international markets)?

I, for one, as a customer from one such market, will be happy about the plastic spacer if the iPhone 15 or 16 comes in a mini version and with a SIM card tray, as that approach simplifies parts across SKUs and keeps iPhones cheaper for everyone, while still catering to the world at large. We were always treated as second-class customers, and it’s nice to be on the opposite end for a change.

Besides, it’s just half a gram and a few cubic millimeters’ worth of plastic, we’re not exactly talking PC case-levels of wasted space here. Apple has made much worse corner-cutting decisions lately, such as keeping the Apple Pencil 1 alive by means of yet another stupid adapter they couldn’t even get in stock in time for the iPad 10’s launch. Or the still dumb, bottom-charging Magic Mouse.
 
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Apple's feeling like the Chicago Bulls after Jordan retired.

Jokes aside, I feel for the design team that are trying to draft off what Ive established. It's like trying to follow Steve - no matter how amazing you might be, it's impossible to rise to that level because it was so freakishly rare in general. It's not fun to be on the team after the mega-star retires. The internet is a cruel, heartless, cesspool that preys on these moments. I do feel Appel will, in time, find its footing again, in that regard. But if history is any indication, it will likely be bumpier between now and then. Good luck!

Also, was it just me or did MR take an article about essentially secession planning and make it about clickbait "cost over design"?? There was like 5% of the article focused on that and 95% about how the design team is going through change.
 
I don't think Steve Jobs knew he was going to stick around for over a decade or so. Tim Cook refuses to leave Apple and give someone else a chance to be a CEO and run the company.
Not sure what is meant. Why should Tim Cook leave Apple as if some MacRumors posters could influence his decision because they are critical of some things in Apple? Tim Cook will retire when he is ready or his hand is forced.
 
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