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Apple is doing great, calm down everyone.

"They're a different company now"

No, no they're not. Try again.
 
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I'll say it again - watching Apple today is like watching RIM six years ago. CEOs that are completely out of touch, hardware that lags behind the competition on features, overconfidence in the existing ecosystem, you name it - RIM did it and Apple is doing it. God I hope someone better comes along to challenge Android. Android is the worst thing to ever happen to mobile.

I agree completely. Apple has been riding high for a long time and management has lost touch. Another year or two and their competition will be offering comparable, if not better, products and, more importantly, user experiences. Go try a Surface Studio. It's very impressive. Phil's dogmatic insistence that touch does not work on the desktop is utter nonsense. Microsoft has delivered the best iMac.

I do not doubt Tim's operations savvy but he lacks vision and unfortunately so does the rest of the abysmal executive team. I see Phil and Eddie as the weakest links and while I still admire Jony's hardware designs overall, since UI/UX came under his control, the iOS and macOS experiences have both degenerated.
 
More of these type of media stories will create uncertainty, share price will drop and Timmy isn't going to look so good.

Sure, they are still making a lot of profit but that is on the back on existing products, not new innovative products. Apple can't milk its existing product line up forever. This is beginning to show.
 
Then congrats. You know more than the three biggest tech companies in the world. Tell us again which company you own that has gotten it right?
Thanks,
By your logic everyone should be using Windows phone and Google glass, because, they are so smart, that they cant be wrong.
 
Well considering you only joined MR today and its your 2nd post can we assume you are shorting AAPL stock.

Maybe he's been reading Mac sites / lots of Apple experience for years prior to signing up?

"Join date" means jack ****.

Posting to MR is not going to help short Apple's share prices... MR is rather insignificant in that regard.
 
I would be pouring money into Apple right now if they updated their iMac with some really top notch specs and a redesign, a second gen iPad Pro with dedicated pro software and features!
I feel that annually updating macs with good solid updates and worthwhile features would make a lot of people happy.
 
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This video is amazing and explains what's happening to Apple now.
More people need to publish this everywhere!!!

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Good video but Tim isn't a salesman.
There are always exceptions - Sir Alan Sugar calls himself a 'salesman' but there again Amstrad is no more, so maybe not the best example.
Steve was a great business man and a natural at sales purely due to passion and belief.
 
Apple is not doomed like many say. Even if iPhone/iPad disappears tomorrow (ain't gonna happen that fast), Apple will still be making BILLIONS in profit (not only revenue). That's still enough to be in a top ranking worldwide. Sure, stock could lose some value but having +$230 billion in the bank gives you a nice cushion.

-The new ntMBP is a great Macbook Air upgrade (it's a good computer for $1300 or less if you get discount).
-iPhone continues to be the best smartphone year over year.
-iPad also the best tablet. Its a good device that last years.
-App Store continues to be No1 spot if you're a developer and has a massive revenue.
-Apple Music is doing fine. Same for iTunes Store. One is complementing the other.
-Macs manage to be profitable. That's very impressive taking into account the industry is falling.

I could go on and on. Thing is; Apple is not doomed. At least not now and not soon. Maybe we're expecting too much from Apple.

If the iPhone vanished tomorrow Apple would instantly LOSE over 60% of its ENTIRE income! It would fall harder then the heaviest bomb from 80,000 feet! It would fail spectacularly.
 
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Maybe he's been reading Mac sites / lots of Apple experience for years prior to signing up?

"Join date" means jack ****.

Posting to MR is not going to help short Apple's share prices... MR is rather insignificant in that regard.
Yep, I'm russian, but I know a lot about Apple and other gadgets
[doublepost=1480711335][/doublepost]I want to see powerful phone on sailfish system one day. Android will sucks
 
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Yep, I'm russian, but I know a lot about Apple and other gadgets
[doublepost=1480711335][/doublepost]I want to see powerful phone on sailfish system one day. Android will sucks

Sorry I didn't mean to be disrespectful, welcome to MacRumors I hope you stick around.
Greetings from the UK
 
Eehh, a lot of negativity, but practically there's not an awful lot that would need to be done in order to make a lot of people happy.

1) Drop all spinning drives or make 128GB Fusion the absolute minimum on every computer. The OS running on platters is much too slow and gives a horrendous user experience, especially for people buying a (still expensive) entry level Mac. They wouldn't want to buy one again.

2) Get a consistent hardware upgrade cycle for the computers and try not to upsell. If you can't make an entry-level computer have decent real-world performance at a certain price point, then don't offer the entry-level model.

3) If you don't have any new CPU/GPU options for hardware refreshes, upgrade storage options instead, or reduce pricing a little.

Your right! We must be missing something, as it seems so simple to just upgrade the specs of the iMac, Mac Pro - yet they haven't :S
 
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Apple has always made decisions for the customer in order to make their stuff easier and more fun to use. The difference —since Jobs died and Forstall left — is that those decisions are no longer great decisions. Instead of Apple's software and hardware being a series of delightful conveniences, Apple's decisions are often head-scratchingly bad. To their credit, many of the decisions get fixed after a year or two (iOS 10 is much better than iOS 7, and the current Apple Watch software is much less frustrating). However, many Apple users no longer feel the pleasant sensation of things just working.
 
There is literally nothing Apple could do to stop this culture of negativity. No product will ever satisfy the incessant neediness of people who call themselves fans of the company. And profits continue to flow, stock prices stay relatively the same, and normal people keep buying Apple devices.
With that line of thinking, there is nothing they could do to get you to stop sucking up to them.
 
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This actually kind of illustrates my point perfectly.

What I was trying to say, which got confused in the naming, is that the first Apple Watch is actually the series 0, the Series 1 is the new Apple Watch processor but same features as the old Series 0, and the Series 2 is the new Apple Watch processor with the new features.

Yeah. But Apple somehow thinks this won't confuse people.
 
Microsoft and Google also think mobile computing is the future. Are they wrong also?

Anybody who says "simplistic solution X is the future of complicated field Y" needs to be ignored.

The whole "Mobile is the future" thing was a useful distraction when the PC market started to mature & saturate - but it probably contributed to stagnation in the PC industry as development was funnelled into mobile (& MS made some major gaffes trying to turn windows into a mobile OS).

Mobile is already an important part of the present of computing and the main player seems to be the large-screen smartphone - however that market matured very quickly and is already pretty saturated with no obvious game-changers on the horizon - the size of the phone market was also inflated for years by the way mobile phone contracts worked, strongly incentivising people to upgrade every 18 months, something that seems to be declining. Tablet use - at least "pure" tablets - shows all the signs of having peaked already because the reality is that their usefulness is very constrained: they're not as portable as phones, they're ergonomically horrible as cameras or phones and they lack the large screens and proper keyboards of PCs.

Everything I see today suggests this: yes, those people who never really needed a computer can make do with a large-screen phone for communications and consumption, but anybody who ever does any serious writing, number crunching or other content creation uses mobile devices as companions to a half-decent laptop or desktop PC/Mac.

(ad break) "Hi, I'm a professional fashion photographer and I use an <i>insert phone brand</i> for all my photo shoots because <i>insert phone brand</i> paid me to - assuming I'm not an actor - and if you think this advert was shot and edited on a phone there's a bridge in Brooklyn you might like to buy..." (I assume that the on-screen text "sequence accelerated" bit means "we cut out the boring bit where the 4-man film crew came in and re-shot most of it with proper lenses, lights and sound gear").
 
While the "Apple is doomed" mindset has been prevalent for much of the company's lifespan, the "universe of negativity" surrounding the company became more noticeable throughout 2016.
The proper link to include for "universe of negativity ... becoming more noticeable" really ought to be forums.macrumors.com.
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I think it has been worse since the October so-called "hello again" event.
You must have missed the many months leading up to the release of the iPhone 7.
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In this new age of media where disinformation is the norm, I find it hard to believe any analyst or forecast. There's often so little background on the predictions, they come off as wild guesses.
"Analyst" reads rumor websites, writes a summary to sell to his clients. Rumor websites publish announcement report from analyst as news article. Website audience feels vindicated, saying, "see, this is exactly what we've been saying!" Yep, it is.
 
If the iPhone vanished tomorrow Apple would instantly LOSE over 60% of its ENTIRE income! It would fall harder then the heaviest bomb from 80,000 feet! It would fail spectacularly.

But even if that did occur, Apple would still be a viable company!
 
While the "Apple is doomed" mindset has been prevalent for much of the company's lifespan, the "universe of negativity" surrounding the company became more noticeable throughout 2016
I think it has been worse since the October so-called "hello again" event.

You must have missed the many months leading up to the release of the iPhone 7.

I was here for those months, but I think the "hello again" event was worse.

Yes there was a lot of negative rumors about the iPhone 7, so when it came out, no one was surprised. With the "hello again" event, I think there was hope and a growing optimism on the forums, only to be let down hard. That is why I think the past month has been worse.

Plus, following the "hello again" event, there was article, after article of negative news about the new MBP. This just added to the "universe of negativity".
 
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