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I would like to see a similar level of analysis by those manufacturers that support multiple platforms such as HTC, Samsung, LG and Sony Erickson.
 
I would like to see a similar level of analysis by those manufacturers that support multiple platforms such as HTC, Samsung, LG and Sony Erickson.
What are you talking about? This is for the smartphone category and it is by manufacturer and not broken down by platform.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice if they lowered their prices a bit instead of lining their pockets? Now that would be something to praise them for, not this idiotic bragging about how much money they make. Why don't most Apple customers think like normal consumers? All they think about is, I want Apple to make lots of money? Strange.

They make amazing products that people are happy to pay for. This supports the notion that people will pay for quality products and quality support.

Not every business needs to race to the bottom and become a generic commodity maker that is barely profitable.

Apples profitability allows them to create more amazing things for their customers.

The real question is why does an apple hater like yourself keep posting on an apple related forum.

By the way apples obligation is to its shareholders and they have the happiest shareholders around. Apple does realize quality leads to happy customers and profits which lead to happy shareholders.
 
Wouldn't it be nice if they lowered their prices a bit instead of lining their pockets? Now that would be something to praise them for, not this idiotic bragging about how much money they make. Why don't most Apple customers think like normal consumers? All they think about is, I want Apple to make lots of money? Strange.
The primary mission of any publicly-trade company is to increase shareholder value.
 
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They make amazing products that people are happy to pay for. This supports the notion that people will pay for quality products and quality support.

Not every business needs to race to the bottom and become a generic commodity maker that is barely profitable.

Apples profitability allows them to create more amazing things for their customers.

The real question is why does an apple hater like yourself keep posting on an apple related forum.

By the way apples obligation is to its shareholders and they have the happiest shareholders around. Apple does realize quality leads to happy customers and profits which lead to happy shareholders.

Thats fine for the nontechie, nonmacrumors resident. But what about people on this site, who are technically inclined? We know, since we are informed.. that apple does NOT provide the best internals or at least not anything better than the competition...

so why should we be "ok" with paying a premium for parts and product, us in the KNOW, know that they are inferior?

People claim apple is so innovative, why sell us short?
 
Thats fine for the nontechie, nonmacrumors resident. But what about people on this site, who are technically inclined? We know, since we are informed.. that apple does NOT provide the best internals or at least not anything better than the competition...

so why should we be "ok" with paying a premium for parts and product, us in the KNOW, know that they are inferior?

People claim apple is so innovative, why sell us short?

I find it much easier to switch to a different platform than complain constantly about things that will never be changed - about a strategy that works so well that it will not change in the foreseeable future.

Does it make sense to complain about it continually when this strategy is so fundamental to Apple?

Maybe Apple just isn't for the technically-inclined (I won't shed a single tear, believe me.)

You're free to leave. That's the beauty of it.
 
Pretty good marketing to be able to convince users that a company making 50+% profit on every sale is good for the users of that product.

This doesn't "drive innovation" so much as it drives up dividends for rich people.

Biggest error in thought process I have read is some time. The name of the game is to design a product that people actually want. You charge what people are willing to pay. For a Revue and many Android tablets the price is, unfortunately, substantially less than what it costs to build.

For the iPhone, it is more than it costs to build.
 
The question is, how can the chart report Motorola's loss?

MMI, SE, Nokia, LG are the little spots below the $0 revenue line. This is a plot of revenue if I remember and not of profit share. The profit share plot is in the Asymco blog.
 
Thats fine for the nontechie, nonmacrumors resident. But what about people on this site, who are technically inclined? We know, since we are informed.. that apple does NOT provide the best internals or at least not anything better than the competition...

so why should we be "ok" with paying a premium for parts and product, us in the KNOW, know that they are inferior?

People claim apple is so innovative, why sell us short?

iOS is part of those internals and is easily, IMO, the best part available and is substantially better than the competition.
 
Actually, you pay about the same price for an iPhone vs Android phone.

The only difference is companies that make Android phones get much less money from the carrier.

Really?

I just bought a dual-core android phone for 99 dollars, outright.

the plan, with data and unlimited text, is $25 a month, no contract at all.

GPS, Wifi, decent camera, etc. (LG Optimus S)

Over the course of 2 years, I'll pay ~$700 total including taxes.

An iPhone 4 with approximately the same package over 2 years, with a contract from ATT, will cost me over $2100 plus tax.

So just to be clear, choosing between my current Android phone and an iPhone (base model iPhone 4 with the base level data and minutes plans) will cost me at least 700 dollars a year.

And I'll be locked into a contract that I don't have at all right now.

ATT and Verizon are giving Apple a portion of that monthly fee. Many people in my extended family have iPhones, and their family phone bill runs 200-500 dollars depending on how many people have phones. I have used their phones extensively. I have nothing against iOS at all. I also don't find it particularly better than Android. The available apps are, in general, more interesting in the App Store than the Android marketplace.

But that's becoming less of a factor every day. There isn't really an app that I've used on the iPhone that isn't available on Android that made me say "I've got to have that!"
 
the plan, with data and unlimited text, is $25 a month, no contract at all.

What plan is that?

As far as I know, iPhone plans on Verizon/Att are the same as any other smartphone.

And no offense, but you pay for what you get. Any high end Android starts out at $200+ but is then soon discounted in some way. Your phone is not exactly high end, at least not today, and it's "dual-core" is not the same as what you would find in the galaxy s 2 for example.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice if they lowered their prices a bit instead of lining their pockets? Now that would be something to praise them for, not this idiotic bragging about how much money they make. Why don't most Apple customers think like normal consumers? All they think about is, I want Apple to make lots of money? Strange.


Apple is the reason smartphones are no higher than $299 on contract. Before the iPhone 3G came out, smartphones on contract were $350 and up on contracts. Apple forces the industry to lower the up front cost of the phone. The reason Apple makes so much profit from the iPhone is because they make it off the carriers. The carriers are paying Apple more for the iPhone than any other manufacturer. As long as you don't buy the iPhone off contract like most costumers don't then your not "lining their pockets."
 
Really?

I just bought a dual-core android phone for 99 dollars, outright.

the plan, with data and unlimited text, is $25 a month, no contract at all.

seriously, where can you buy a smartphone outright for 99 dollars without any kind of carrier lock-in? And $25 a month? REALLY?
 
Sounds like Virgin Mobile

What plan is that?

As far as I know, iPhone plans on Verizon/Att are the same as any other smartphone.

Vigin has minimal to no coverage and makes AT&T coverage look like stunning 100% national 3G service.
 
What plan is that?

As far as I know, iPhone plans on Verizon/Att are the same as any other smartphone.

And no offense, but you pay for what you get. Any high end Android starts out at $200+ but is then soon discounted in some way. Your phone is not exactly high end, at least not today, and it's "dual-core" is not the same as what you would find in the galaxy s 2 for example.

Sounds like a pay as you go plan, which is like compairing apples to oranges
 
The name of the game is to design a product that people actually want. You charge what people are willing to pay.

If that were completely true, Apple wouldn't be spending half a billion dollars on product ads every year, because people would just go out and buy their stuff without being prompted.
 
Wouldn't it be nice if they lowered their prices a bit instead of lining their pockets? Now that would be something to praise them for, not this idiotic bragging about how much money they make. Why don't most Apple customers think like normal consumers? All they think about is, I want Apple to make lots of money? Strange.

You are placing everyone on the same boat - you should not - you have to understand that the apple community has been dumb down ever since iOS

but yes, a company like HP makes less profit per item over Apple yet employ 304K people - in itself a value these days... but that is not a conversation you have with an 18 year old.
 
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