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Tim Cook prevails over the Haters...

Time to let go of the incessant frequent references to Jobs.

It's Tim's Apple Now, his numbers speak for themselves.

I'm happy for Mr. Cook

I'm happy for Mr. Cook. I'm not happy for the consumer who sank 2K on an expensive computer and wonders why it runs like it's from the '90s.

I'm not happy for me when I have to deal with such a call at work and explain that, although they sank a lot of money into a machine, it's not actually faulty and they didn't pay quite enough to get an SSD or decent sized fusion drive to enable it to run buttery — which I'd argue should be standard.

And I'm not happy that Apple are taking advantage of the ecosystem and consumers by crushing longevity, upgradability, and value for money. Feels a little like they're pissing on Steve's legacy.

Difficult to call. With 11 billion dollars profit in 3 months, they can certainly do a lot more to give some of their products the love they deserve. Yet with 11 billion dollars profit, they must be doing something right. So there we go.
 
It's already diversifying you just aren't paying attention.

Apple Pay

Apple Music

Apple TV

Apple Car

Maybe they'll release a smartwatch or something!

One doesnt really exist outside of the USA, the second struggles to compete, the third is a hobby and the fourth doesnt exist.

cycomiko pretty much sums it up.


true, they TRY to diversify, but after all these years, it's still not reflected in market share, profitability, revenue...THAT'S the problem

Pretty much.

They don't need to diversify anything they just need to do what they do better:
1- Release more appealing Macs -not crippled disposable
2- Make a better iPad/Mac hybrid to eliminate the surface
3-fix their cloud services to be actually reliable and trusted
4- proliferate games in the new Apple TV to be really serious contender in the console market
5-release a TV/movies all you can eat on demand subscription service that put Amazon and Netflix in serious competition
6-Grow HomeKit to be the real solution for home automation and security market leader
7-Be more aggressive in the education market and stablish better partnerships with the different US states to really help kids learn to code
8-invest some of that cash into 3D printing tech solutions

You're on the right track!

And what % of Google earnings is search? >90%. And no one is complaining.

Stop the nonsense and enjoy the ride.

Were not talking about Google right now. Were talking Apple. The problem is that ride you're talking about, is going to end up over a cliff. Apple is doing OK when it comes to new tech but they're not doing GREAT. The iPhone is really the ONLY thing keeping them where they are. They know this and are struggling to find that next great thing that keeps them on top. Please don't kid yourself thinking Apple is set for life. They need to diversify to something beyond "toys". Something more integral to who we are as humans. It's getting there but they have a ways to go.
 
Apple continuously is able to beat expectations.. Pretty much every time. No disputing that. Still have serious questions in regards to the direction of the company, however. I have pretty disappointed in their product launches over the last 18 months.. There seems to be a fundamental shift in the how the company is operating in regards to prioritizing incremental improvements over substantial innovation.
 
My concern with this, is a huge portion of what is keeping Apple going, is only the iPhone. Granted IMO it's the best mobile phone in the market, all things being equal, it will soon meet it's end. All things are like that. Even I as an Apple device lover can grasp this.

Question is, what is Apple going to do to diversify it's products?

Apple TV is maturing in a developing category....
Home Automation...
Apple Car...

Just to name a few. Apple is not slowing down or resting of its laurels.
 
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Why did Apple more than double the price of Apple TV, when its cost of goods almost assuredly did not rise and their isn't really any significant innovation involved with the product.. Kind of provides a view as to their current motivations, which is becoming more and more dependent on placating shareholders and taking advantage of their built in customer base who loves their products. Might be smart business, I suppose, but its kind of, hmm, large corporation like?
 
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Apple can't get any traction outside the phone. There really isn't a halo affect represented in that graph. Phones, phones and more phones. Still, as a company, I'd take it all day long!

I beg to differ. They are selling more Macs than they ever have.

Apple is never likely to own the PC market, but it is the effect of their iLine that has made the company.

How will Apple diversify? They're working on it now. Media. Set-top boxes. Auto control, possibly a car. Home control.

Steve Jobs said himself in 1997 to milk the Mac for all that it is worth and move on to the next big thing. That is what Apple has done and is doing.

You can only sell so many Macbooks, iMacs and Mac Pros. You don't get to be a $250B company in yearly revenues doing that.
 
We've seen this pattern before: "Sales at Apple increased from $800 million to $8 billion under Sculley's management"

Sculley didn't have Jobs' "vision thing" and neither does Cook.
That was then, this is now. Tim Cook is no John Sculley, nor is the market like it was then. Not even close.

Furthermore Apple is not and never has been, a "one man band".

A romanticized image of Steve Jobs was created in the minds eye of the press, the hero worshippers, the fan boys, the other hollywood loving believers, Steve Jobs took all the credit and someone designated his as the visionary.

Yes he had vision, but so did the often highly overlooked and rather quiet Steve Wozniak. The real brains on the technical side. Without his expertise, and that of the cadre of highly skilled designers and engineers, Steve Jobs, the worlds greatest salesman, wouldn't have had anything to sell.

So let's be honest, give Tim Credit for keeping Apple on track to bring in the numbers that were just announced.

Yes at some point Apple may need a visionary, but not at this time. More volatile than is obvious, Apple still has internal areas to fix, to improve, to get ready to be able to bring in a visionary and let that person do what they do best. Without said preparation, this highly charged company could implode. Stranger things have happened.
 
Too bad currency adjustments will badly inflict their holiday quarter. Crazy prices on all electronics in Norway at the moment.
 
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They deserve it... iPhone 6s is a great phone and im glad many android users are switching...
The trend will be the same... Once you tried to use iPhone you will never go back to android.
 
Because everyone wants to know how the Watch is doing. Looks like Apple's "Other" category grew by 1% since the 3rd quarter earnings report, if the numbers I"m seeing elsewhere are accurate. Went from 5% of the total earnings to 6% of the total earnings, and that has to be driven almost exclusively by the Watch. And that's up 2% year over year, and 1% from the previous quarter. So it looks like the Watch may be responsible for close to a steady 1% quarterly growth of the "Other" category, so theoretically 4% growth by March?

But keep in mind the Other category included a major iPod Touch release which likely led to a huge spike by anyone who's been holding out for a new one. It also includes the TV which got a huge spike from the price drop. It also includes Apple Music which would have had 6 million subscribers pay up during this quarter, as well as ap store downloads, MP3s and everything else. So there's a lot of other things to dilute the watch.

The portion of total revenue that the other category represents grew 1% from the previous quarter, yes. (More precisely it was up 0.6% QoQ and 1.4% YoY.) But revenue from the other category was actually up more than 15% QoQ and 60% YoY. It was a little more than $3 billion this past quarter compared to less than $2 billion a year ago.
 
Over 200B in the bank. Almost a quarter of a trillion dollars. Just let that sink in for a second.

Back in 2014, when Apple only had $158.8bn (£94.9bn) in the bank, they had...

...three times as much cash on hand as does the US government, and over twice as much as does the UK.

These figures come to us from the Bank of America BAC +0.00% wealth-management arm, US Trust, as reported by London’s the Telegraph.

In its most recent quarterly SEC filing, Apple reported that it had $158.8bn (£94.9bn) in cash and cash equivalents plus short- and long-term securities. US Trust reports that the cash-strapped American government has reserves of just $48.5bn (£29bn).​
 
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I suspect Apple Shares will drop, as the 'Analysts' will say it did not meet their forecasts (or more exactly, did not meet the numbers they pulled out of a hat)

Many of the analysts are actually really good at predicting Apple's quarters and understand the business well. What you are doing is just spitting vile at a profession you do not understand. A very ignorant thing to do.
 
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