Why would a "Server" need dual GPUs? We don't even use the one on ours.
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That's cause you already bought 256 in the base configuration.Wow... 1TB Flash for $800
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Apple's Redesigned Mac Pro Now Available for Online Orders
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Apple seems.....
to have delivered a truly remarkable product....Three years and so in the making.....Waiting to see firsts real world benchmarks.....
to have delivered a truly remarkable product....Three years and so in the making.....Waiting to see firsts real world benchmarks.....
Not quite that important but as the owner of a professional media design firm, this product will speed up our workflow tremendously. We constantly render AVC-Intra100, 4k, RAW, MPEG video. We composite layers of media in After Effects and spit out four 30 minute TV shows per week. We have render offline HD footage for assistant editors non-stop and multiclip 6-8 cameras on typical productions. Yes, we have been waiting for this product as our entire ecosystem is Apple based. Dropping $10k on a machine that will help us make $250k in revenue... idiot proof.
As the owner of a post production facility... this.
The old Mac Pros never had quite enough slots for us (for DaVinci Resolve 2x GPUs, video I/O, RAID controller, RedRocket), and as a consequence of this and of the fact that Apple didn't ship a real Mac Pro update last year, we started pushing Windows into production roles... and, well, I won't go into all the details, but people who say things like "Well, once you're in the app it doesn't matter what OS you're running!" are living on Mars, as far as I can tell. First off, we saw many more performance oddities in Windows (tasks that didn't run as fast as they should on the hardware, etc.), and secondly, "once you're in the app" doesn't really reflect the reality of managing terabytes of data across workflows that span multiple apps and computers, include the use of custom in-house workflow tools, etc.
This new Mac Pro just makes all of our problems both with the old Mac Pro and with Wintel systems go away. Massive on-board GPU power, 20 Gbps Thunderbolt that's more than fast enough for storage and video I/O, and it's a complete, supported, integrated solution from a vendor that sweats the details. So it costs a couple thousand more than a DIY Wintel box with similar performance? OK, over the course of its life it will be used to produce hundreds of thousands of dollars of billable client work. If it makes that process a little smoother, a little more reliable, it's absolutely worth the price of admission. If it saves me a few hours a month of troubleshooting, it's absolutely worth the price of admission. And, once it eventually gets replaced in the role of handling real-time color grading and massive render and transcode jobs, it probably has another two or three years of life left in it in one of our offline edit suites, where we could never deploy Windows systems because the clients who rent them almost universally all want Macs.
The fact that all of this comes in a tiny, quiet package that I can toss in a camera bag and take on location is just icing on the cake.
I just ordered a fully maxed out one! Can't wait!
Dispatch in January. Too long to wait!
2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache
64GB (4 x 16GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
1TB PCIe-based flash storage
Dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6GB of GDDR5 VRAM each
Only thing I want now is for apple to release their own 4k screens or new thin thunderbolt screens.
Dispatch in January. Too long to wait!
2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache
64GB (4 x 16GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
1TB PCIe-based flash storage
Dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6GB of GDDR5 VRAM each
Only thing I want now is for apple to release their own 4k screens or new thin thunderbolt screens.
Someone may have said it already since this was a few pages back but what's stopping you from buying a second TB display if you want one? It's not like its discounted when included with the mac pro, it'll cost exactly the same. If you want 2 than bundle one with the mac pro and purchase the other separate.
I will admit though, I don't believe you can buy the 4k display from apple on its own and I think buying a magic trackpad separate would cost more
I think there's going to be some many threads on this that either love or hate it. I see on the customization factor is going to be a huge negative for a lot of people, but the professionals should really see great increases in productivity with the speeds these should achieve.
I added everything
So did I - including two monitors. Still didn't get as high as you.
Yeah, cause the 2+ minimum warranties imposed by your countries don't add any support costs:
http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/
The idea seems to be that spare gpu cycles will be utilized for boosting CPU type tasks, that CPU development is running out of steam and this is the first in a sea change away from CPU dependency. But we're all waiting to see what that actually looks/works like.
It's a bit calculated, but seems to me apple is hoping the shops making the audio cards switch over to TB connected audio boxes - making TB the new connection standard and opening up options like portable workstations.
Why the surprise? Maxed out MP has always cost in that ballpark, sometimes even more. And much of that cost is ram and storage, same as it has always been.
Plus just looking at the machine, the screws on the CPU mount look like socketed instead of soldered. But we should know soon enough when they start doing tear downs.
I'm skeptical about the claim the SSD can't be replaced, it's obviously in a socket and held by one screw, should be an easy replacement.
You mean on the apple home page? On the mac page it has two big mentions.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
You failed to mention the 1,500 Thunderbolt box which would make your mac system 11,099. Most High end users use special cards. Video, audio etc.
A high end pro user may have their own video card and not need the Fire pros. I have a red card. A person using the Adobe suite would want a Cuda card which is much cheaper. So thats - 4,400
The adjusted self made system price = 4600
Even if you add 2 the GeForce GTX TITAN SuperClocked 6GB cards for 1,019 each, a self made system is about 6840
Your still well below Apples price.
I'm not saying Apples machine isn't fast. I'm saying its over priced and not suitable for a high end user who would spend money for the top of the line system. Its basically a Mac Min on crack, speed and steroids
Even trolls need to come out from under the bridge from time to time. A little sunlight and meeting some real humans might do you some good.
Nope.
That wasn't the question. Some audio folks need a chassis for PCIe support, some are using alternatives running via firewire, usb, or TB. The point is that for anyone using software that isn't GPU heavy you're paying for GPU power that won't be used.
The macbook air didn't use standard SSD cards but third parties released replacement drives within a couple months. I don't see why it would be any different with the mac pro. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple adopts the same form factor SSD for other models as well such as the iMac or the mini.
The smart ones knew what was coming and switched from cards to firewire or USB boxes years ago.
Well your only a like $80 off. Go through it again
Oh btw, i got it higher. 20,295,97. I added the wrong mouse Well your only a like $80 off. Go through it again
I thought you had it around $26,000? Must be my eyes. Guess I need a 4K monitor. Or 3.
MacWorld has posted some impressive benchmark results: http://www.macworld.com/article/208...weve-been-waiting-for-finally.html#tk.rss_all
My point was, the new SSD in the current MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac and Mac Pro now are all PCIe based. So far there are no 3rd party SATA Express cards that work in these machines yet.
The Air has been out since June 2013, so 6 months. Still no compatible SSD's. But now that we have all of these systems using the same stick it greatly increases the chances of 3rd party upgrades due to it being more and more economically viable due to the increase in potential purchasers.
!! Mac Pro Late 2013 Apple Support Docs
Xlr8 Your Mac has posted links to a bunch of new support docs at Apple. They are interesting in that they describe the full-support of Boot Camp on the new machine -- Windows 8 only though. So at least reference drivers for the FirePro GPUs are already there in Boot Camp. Great!
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html
Xlr8 Your Mac has posted links to a bunch of new support docs at Apple. They are interesting in that they describe the full-support of Boot Camp on the new machine -- Windows 8 only though. So at least reference drivers for the FirePro GPUs are already there in Boot Camp. Great!
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html
I agree. What did Face-time mean again ? With iChat, you just knew it was something to do with chatting, but Facetime ? What the heck...
It almost seems like if Apple can make anything kewl... doesn't matter what the name is, people will use it.
So you're telling me it is literally impossible for you to ever want to upgrade? This computer will last you for the rest of your life?
And that even if it didn't, it would be literally impossible for an upgrade to be more cost effective than buying an entirely new system?
How about we have this conversation again, but this time you don't lie to justify terrible design decisions that put form over function.
I see no lies in there, dropping money to upgrade a 4 years old computer is just silly for me too. If you have to upgrade your GPU, your hd, your CPU and your ram, why don't you buy a brand new computer? It could be even less expensive than upgrading sometimes.
By the way, ram is upgradable, ssd is upgradable, CPU is upgradable, and the GPU are likely replaceable with some cards coming in the same format.
Also if you think that's form over function, you have clearly no knowledge about the laws of physics.
By the way, ram is upgradable, ssd is upgradable, CPU is upgradable, and the GPU are likely replaceable with some cards coming in the same format.
Also if you think that's form over function, you have clearly no knowledge about the laws of physics.
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