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Apple's Redesigned Mac Pro Now Available for Online Orders

theBigD23 said:
Has it be confirmed that video cards can be upgraded? It looks liege it can be.
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It hasn't been confirmed yet. But after looking at the design... it might be a possibility.

The Mac Pro is made up of 3 smaller daughter cards that plug into the mainboard on the bottom.

The 1st card has the processor and RAM... the 2nd card is a video card and the PCIe drive... and the 3rd is another video card.

Perhaps Apple could sell replacements of one or more of the cards. Or they could swap them out at the Apple Store.

But knowing Apple... they would rather sell you another $3000 computer in a few years! (yeah that's more likely)

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Just a friendly tip, it is cheaper to buy the standard model and buy the faster processor at your favorite e-shop, then sell the processor it comes with.

Example, it is cheaper to buy the 12-core Xeon E5-2697-V2 than upgrading through Apple.

You can probably also buy the 10-core (2.80Ghz, 25MB cache) E5-2680-V2 and fit in.

Can't wait to see the iFixit teardown :)
 
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marioguarneros said:
I think your anger should be directed to the European Union and your own government. I'm sure Apple would be very happy to sell you their products at US prices.
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Please explain?

In NZ, the $2999 USD Mac Pro is $5000 NZD.

With exchange rate taken into account: $3660 NZD
With sales tax taken into account: $4210 NZD
Let's add another $100 to cover shipping, etc, so total = $4310 NZD

Where does the other $690 NZD come into it? Our exchange rate isn't THAT far off the US. And our govt doesn't charge import duty for computer related goods.

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Pressure said:
Just a friendly tip, it is cheaper to buy the standard model and buy the faster processor at your favorite e-shop, then sell the processor it comes with.

Example, it is cheaper to buy the 12-core Xeon E5-2697-V2 than upgrading through Apple.

You can probably also buy the 10-core (2.80Ghz, 25MB cache) E5-2680-V2 and fit in.
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How do you know the processor is upgradeable? It could be soldered in for all we know?
 
mw360 said:
Apple always builds in a buffer of around 10%.
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We are talking about 15% here. And with an expensive machine like this one, it's not just a few bucks. Some businesses would be happy to have a margin of 5% today. And they use 15% as a buffer on top of their already outrageous margins of 20-30%.

Also, I am not a consumer, I am a professional user. Still I have to earn all that money before I can spend it.

And of course it is OK to still whine about it. Who are you to decide about what is happening with the hard earned money of other people? I would rather spend the money on a nice little vacation with the family instead of throwing it into Apple's "buffer".
 
I was pleasantly surprised that Apple offers nice discounts through partner programs on these brand spankin new cylinders. Retail priced mine at $6594, discounts to 6,054. That's a pretty nice discount on a brand new product. Thanks apple.
 
ts1973 said:
Is there any software that actually can use this kind of graphics capabilities (other than custom written software for research for example) ?
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Vfx, mograph, video editing, architectural visualization ;) ... lots of stuff that is deadline intensive and render heavy.
 
It´s the same old story with the pricing.
Standard nMP 2999USD or here in Germany 2999€.
Only that 3000USD are just around 2200€ at the moment, these 800€ are 1100USD.

So we get the Quad Core Mac Pro for the Price of the Six Core :) ( 2999 Euro = 4000USD )
What´s not to like about it...
 
snapdragonx said:
Where does the other $690 NZD come into it? Our exchange rate isn't THAT far off the US. And our govt doesn't charge import duty for computer related goods.
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This is the tax all people outside the US have to pay for not living in God's own country... We just have to accept that we are not the chosen ones.

Interesting enough that we indirectly subsidize the prices in the US by the high prices in our countries.

But I never heard a "thank you" by any US citizen for our contribution to their purchasing power. ;)
 
groovebuster said:
This is the tax all people outside the US have to pay for not living in God's own country... We just have to accept that we are not the chosen ones.

Interesting enough that we indirectly subsidize the prices in the US by the high prices in our countries.

But I never heard a "thank you" by any US citizen for our contribution to their purchasing power. ;)
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Thank you for your contribution! :cool:
 
swingerofbirch said:
No signs of a new mouse, keyboard, or display?

I feel like if so, they cut some corners that they didn't with the Cube. The Cube's elements were designed to fit together quite beautifully: the speakers, keyboard, mouse, and display all fit together.

The 2009 Apple BT keyboard is beautiful, but not sure it's a match for the new Mac Pro. I would have liked to have seen a new display with integrated speakers and new KB/mouse in black, but Apple more and more seems to be a very large company with very few resources—stretched quite thin.
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No new accessories. Doesn't even come with keyboard or mouse. (Which means the box will be tiny, comparatively speaking.) Eleven inches tall by seven inches by seven inches would fit it (with the power cord curled up underneath.) You could almost use a Mac G4 Cube shell as the packing box! (Not quite tall enough.)

I would like to see a full-size Bluetooth keyboard, (then again, I'd also like to see the return of the short USB keyboard...) And releasing them in black anodized aluminum with black keys wouldn't hurt anything, either. Bonus points for making them backlit like on the MacBook Pros.

I would also like to see the Magic Mouse available optionally in black instead of white.

I was fully expecting to see Apple come out with their own 4K display at the same time as the Mac Pro's release. Odd to not see it happen. (My prediction was for a $1500 24" 3840x2160 display PLUS a $2500 30" 5120x2880 display.)

Unrelatedly, it's nice to see that the upgrades between the low-end and high-end model can all be added to the low-end model, and when you add them all, you get the same price. Apple has had odd "can't upgrade this to match" with odd pricing in the past. (See the quad-core Mac mini server when it was first introduced - it was a steal.)

Finally, a "fully-loaded" Mac Pro, with all available upgrades, software bundles, and external accessories (including the Sharp 4K display and Thunderbolt 24 GB RAID array,) but NOT including the "services" (One to One, AppleCare,) or the not-directly-Mac Pro-related AirPort, comes to $19,538. Cheaper than the previous-generation fully loaded.

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And it just dawned on me...

The new Mac Pro ships with twice as much video memory as my laptop has system memory. And is configurable to have twice as much VRAM as my primary desktop has system RAM... :eek:
 
Why?!?!?!?!

Almost $3,300 cheaper for the maxed out Mac Pro in America compared to the UK?!?! WHY GOD, WHY?!?!?!
 
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groovebuster said:
We are talking about 15% here. And with an expensive machine like this one, it's not just a few bucks. Some businesses would be happy to have a margin of 5% today. And they use 15% as a buffer on top of their already outrageous margins of 20-30%.

Also, I am not a consumer, I am a professional user. Still I have to earn all that money before I can spend it.

And of course it is OK to still whine about it. Who are you to decide about what is happening with the hard earned money of other people? I would rather spend the money on a nice little vacation with the family instead of throwing it into Apple's "buffer".
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I thought professional equipment is tax-deducible?
 
Hmm, the prices in Sweden seems a little to cheap:

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That is about $7280, same spec in the US Apple store is $9599, both excluding taxes.

If they didn't put up the wrong price in the Swedish Apple store it would seem that Apple is finally giving us the right price here instead of the 10x conversion ratio they usually use here.

Nope Move along, bug in my Forex conversion app, it used Euro instead of USD even though i double-checked that USD was checked, so $7280 is wrong, but the Swedish Apple store is still using the true USD-Swedish Kroner conversion rate instead of the traditional 10x, so it is still really cheap here :S
 
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Pressure said:
Intel doesn't sell the Xeon E5 v2 in a BGA configuration meant for soldering?
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They've made custom CPUs for Apple before... The 2009 "Nehalem" Mac Pro up through the just discontinued model had socketed CPUs that didn't have Intel's default heat spreader on them - and Intel never offered the heat spreader-less version to anyone else. (Admittedly, that is less of a change than a BGA version would be, but there is precedent.) And heck, now that I think about it, the first MacBook Air had a completely custom CPU package. There's your precedent. Likewise, the first generation AppleTV had a completely custom Intel CPU.

Just because Intel doesn't sell it doesn't mean they don't make it just for Apple.
 
Sahand said:
Almost $3,300 cheaper for the maxed out Mac Pro in America compared to the UK?!?! WHY GO, WHY?!?!?!
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Is that after you've factored in transatlantic shipping, 20% VAT, added cost of employee overheads for support (better than usual UK "customer support") etc

...or are you just comparing the headline figures and fancy having a moan?

I'm not saying these factors cover all the difference, they never have, but it does close the gap considerably. If you go to Amurka and buy one, you'll have a better chance of avoiding custom/import duty that with the previous MacPro (hand luggage?) so give it a go.
 
I actually like the design of the new Mac Pro and admire that apple are trying to innovate. UK pricing though...

Upgrade to: 2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache [+ £2,800.00]

It is actually cheaper to buy the xeon UK retail and fly someone from Foxconn Shenzhen to install it for you (£874 inc taxes)! And that way you would also have a quad core to stick on ebay! There is no way Apple can justify almost £1000 more than the retail price on a CPU. It is not like the normal spec Mac Pro doesn't have substantial mark up to start with!
 
So, who's buying Santa's present this year then? [No more drinks and snacks please; I need a new MP to stay on top of all those emails you send me.]
 
Meanwhile in Brazil...

The top one here is R$42.699,00 (~U$21.000)... and remember the minimum wage here is R$678,00/month (~U$300)
 
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