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Apple's Revamped Privacy Site Highlights 'Everyday Apps, Designed for Your Privacy'
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Not how it works. Most websites have code from Google, Facebook, Twitter and others embedded so you get tracked by these companies even if you don’t use these services.
What gives them the right to track me without presenting me with some sort of TOS I can read and decide if I want to accept?
Every time Apple talks about privacy it just screams more of marketing/PR rather than substance. An easy way to cash in on the fact that their biggest competitors are reliant on advertising dollars.
As others have mentioned, they could be doing so much more rather than having only incrementally more privacy levers than the competition due to apathy towards advertising.
As others have mentioned, they could be doing so much more rather than having only incrementally more privacy levers than the competition due to apathy towards advertising.
100% right. Not only do they have code from G, F, & T, but many other trackers from tons of other 3rd party trackers. Here's a very simple info dump that highlights how much we're tracked. https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/w...w-it-affects-your-online-privacy-42935355525/
If I'm not mistaken, visiting a site and interacting with it's content gives implied consent. IANAL, but the gist is, if you don't want to be tracked by our site, don't visit. What's funny to me is so many complain about being tracked yet they voluntarily visit the sites that track them. Sites like MR.
I think website operators are going to be in for a rude awakening soon (with various governments around the world talking about legislation around privacy and data collection).
Implied consent only works if a reasonable person expects something to happen by taking an action. I don't think it's "reasonable" to expect that because you visit a website that a bunch of data about you gets logged. Or that this data gets shared and compared with other sites/providers to build a profile on you.
We had a person die at a trampoline park here recently. These types of facilities always make you sign waivers before you can use their facilities. A reasonable person would know that taking part in certain activities could produce an injury (even playing sports). Based on that, "implied consent" should be enough to protect these business owners from people getting hurt (and suing over it) because it's pretty much common sense that you could get hurt doing these activities. Implied consent is not a legal "catch all" that absolves any person (or business) from legal consequences just because they claim "they should have known".
Yeah weird that got so many likes. I actually seem to prefer DuckDuckGo results nowadays.
What changes? Be specific. I don’t care if Apple gets $$&. It doesn’t change the outcome one bit.
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What system did Apple claim to disapprove of?
I'm not talking about FB or google. I'm talking about the unnamed web sites you mention. You entered/visited those websites. Do you goto brick and mortar stores and complain about video security cameras recording you? They don't need your permission.
It probably isn't illegal for google to give away free security cameras and they can track you across stores and the whole city the same way as on the internet.
You picked a really stupid analogy.
- Stores usually have signs up saying you are being recorded. Do these websites notify you they're gathering your data?
- It's illegal to record audio on videos without someone giving consent. You simply walking into a store does not grant them consent to record anything you say. Do websites have federal laws that prevent them from gathering certain types of information about you?
- Video recorded in stores remains with the store. They don't share their video among dozens of other stores so they can all build up a complete video record of you. Websites do share data with other sites or data aggregators.
- Video recorded in stores is automatically deleted after a set period of time (since it's just for security purposes). Do websites automatically wipe all the information they have about you at set intervals?
So, no, they're not the same at all. I guarantee you if a store with a video camera did any of the things websites did (kept data permanently or shared with others) they'd be in serious trouble.
Out of curiosity, what more could Apple be doing without killing access to the internet or their ecosystem?
Get a good adblocker that removes social media buttons and trackers, along with the usual evil Google etc.
The app "Lockdown" (it is free) works great on iOS to block all Facebook and Google tracking, amongst a plethora of other evil advertising tentacles.
Do a web search for "website cookies notification". Every website I've visited has it.
Not good enough. They all use generic boilerplate language without actually telling you what they collect or where it goes.
I was disappointed to learn that iMessage E2E encryption is meaningless when using iCloud backup. (My understanding after digging around Apple’s lit.) The fact that this is almost never mentioned in tech reporting when mentioning iMessage E2E encryption drives me nuts. Easy enough to disable it, but I doubt most people do.
While Apple is better than the others, I hate the cherry picking when it comes to privacy,
ex. Your messages are encrypted, but your contacts are shared, and your voice recordings are stored for 90 days, but your faceID is on device, but your button presses are collected anonymously, but your location is shared by permission if you are NOT logged in.
People want the peace of mind, not having to analyze every business or online service they use. I rather have something like ProtonMail. Everything is encrypted, 0-access. end of story.
-Browse without logging into anything as much as you can, always signout
-Install uBlockOrigin plug-in
-Install privacy badger or DuckDuckGo plug-in.
-Don't use Chrome as a browser, and if you like it use Brave browser instead.
-Use TorBrowser on pc or FireFox focus on mobile for casual browsing or looking things up
-Install PiHole and do not install any lists except this list. You can have the hardware for like $30 or less, if you are not tech savvy, any one who is can install it by following the simple instructions. If you know what you are doing it takes like 20-30min max. Tip: install it using SSH remote login, don't operate the raspberry pi and try to install the software on it directly. SSH into it.
ex. Your messages are encrypted, but your contacts are shared, and your voice recordings are stored for 90 days, but your faceID is on device, but your button presses are collected anonymously, but your location is shared by permission if you are NOT logged in.
People want the peace of mind, not having to analyze every business or online service they use. I rather have something like ProtonMail. Everything is encrypted, 0-access. end of story.
-Browse without logging into anything as much as you can, always signout
-Install uBlockOrigin plug-in
-Install privacy badger or DuckDuckGo plug-in.
-Don't use Chrome as a browser, and if you like it use Brave browser instead.
-Use TorBrowser on pc or FireFox focus on mobile for casual browsing or looking things up
-Install PiHole and do not install any lists except this list. You can have the hardware for like $30 or less, if you are not tech savvy, any one who is can install it by following the simple instructions. If you know what you are doing it takes like 20-30min max. Tip: install it using SSH remote login, don't operate the raspberry pi and try to install the software on it directly. SSH into it.
Not sure if we talk about the same thing, but I see all the time web sites asking my consent to their privacy policy and use of my data. As a rule I keep only the absolute minimum of functional cookies, zero if possible. Some sites refuse to display content if I refuse their cookies and their tracking to provide personalized ads. In that case, bye-bye; I go elsewhere. Annoying to always have to deal with this, but it is there.
As I posted above, they only give you typical general boilerplate legalese. They don’t list the names of, for example, all the companies aggregating data or who they’re affiliated with.
The "data industrial complex" as Cook referred to it in his Brussels speech. I assume he speaks for Apple when he complains of undisclosed surveillance and the potential abuses of the insights it generates. Ironically, Apple relies on surveillance too to market and improve its own products. And while they may be making it more difficult for data miners or marketers to surveil you secretly, Apple no doubt relies on those service's data collections to make business decisions, monitor trends, and understand consumer preferences.
Apple PR is a master of double speak. They can accurately say that they don't profile their customer base and sell their knowledge of us to others, giving the impression that they respect our privacy. Instead, they let the likes of Google and others do it for them.
Nope. Don’t agree with this perspective. Is Apple against ads or misuse of your PII? The two are completely different.
That Apple uses the ecosystem to improve YOUR individual customer experience shouldn’t be a surprise. I guess some would be happier (or even happy) if the Apple ecosystem experience was more like a pet rock. (But there is no settings checkbox for that)
The second paragraph is just a hyperbolic opinion in my estimation.