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Apple's Rivalry With Google Gets Personal
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Of course Apple is angry about Google and Android.
The iPhone marketshare fell over 10% in 2009, they lost 4.5% in Q4/2009 and another 3.6% in Feb 2010. Apple has to do something against Android obviously.
http://www.cultofmac.com/android-marketshare-grows-while-iphone-market-shrinks/32402
The iPhone marketshare fell over 10% in 2009, they lost 4.5% in Q4/2009 and another 3.6% in Feb 2010. Apple has to do something against Android obviously.
http://www.cultofmac.com/android-marketshare-grows-while-iphone-market-shrinks/32402
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New hardware from Apple in the summer will change that trend I think. I've been suggesting that people interested in the iPhone wait a few months if they can as something must be in the pipeline from Apple.
Interesting read tho, thanks!
zacman said:
New hardware from Apple in the summer will change that trend I think. I've been suggesting that people interested in the iPhone wait a few months if they can as something must be in the pipeline from Apple.
Interesting read tho, thanks!
Apple are in it for themselves and seem to use open source projects to suit their business needs - obviously they're in the right to. I've just never really seen huge commits from them.
I'd say they've done far less contributing than many of the big IT names that people love to hate - IBM, Sun, Oracle, Suse etcetcetc
Ignoring google's physical code contributions, they do huge amounts of sponsoring for developers and students - and they also don't quite have the notoriety of apple, defending their acquisitions with such enthusiasm, while contributing very little.
cups has gone through loads of development since apple bought it? Seems that they're still just using an old, vanilla version?
They've done a fair amount of work on khtml for webkit and got themselves a nice new browser.
GCC? No idea what they contribute to that, but in the last year alone there's still lots of regressions and all they (gcc devs) seem to be doing is dropping tickets to push for a new release.
Kerberos has contributions from a fair few people - google, microsoft etc
LLVM, another university creation - we'll have to see how that one goes
Apple are in it for themselves and seem to use open source projects to suit their business needs - obviously they're in the right to. I've just never really seen huge commits from them.
I'd say they've done far less contributing than many of the big IT names that people love to hate - IBM, Sun, Oracle, Suse etcetcetc
Ignoring google's physical code contributions, they do huge amounts of sponsoring for developers and students - and they also don't quite have the notoriety of apple, defending their acquisitions with such enthusiasm, while contributing very little.
cups has gone through loads of development since apple bought it? Seems that they're still just using an old, vanilla version?
They've done a fair amount of work on khtml for webkit and got themselves a nice new browser.
GCC? No idea what they contribute to that, but in the last year alone there's still lots of regressions and all they (gcc devs) seem to be doing is dropping tickets to push for a new release.
Kerberos has contributions from a fair few people - google, microsoft etc
LLVM, another university creation - we'll have to see how that one goes
Youve obviously havent used the improvements form the up to date Linux CUPS implementation. As far as I know the CUPS version is still in use for Mac OSX so printer drivers arent broken. Because Linux CUPS drivers are broken frequently.
Apples contribution to GCC is the whole reason that GDB is usable.
Despite what you may think, RedHat is the bigest supplier of GNU code at a whopping 12%. According to the GNU Foundation, this list is only of people who contribute more than 1%. Google and Apple are absent.
Red Hat: 12.3%
IBM: 7.6%
Novell: 7.6%
Intel: 5.3%
Independent consultant: 2.5%
Oracle: 2.4%
Linux Foundation: 1.6%
SGI 1.6%
Parallels 1.3%
Renesas Technology: 1.3%
Academia: 1.2%
Fujitsu: 1.1%
MontaVista: 1.1%
MIPS Technologies: 1.1%
Analog Devices: 1.0%
HP: 1.0%
Never fails?
You are right Android will overtake iPhone, but its kind of irrelevant. iPhone will maintain the premium market and the share of the profits for sometime.
But what is wrong is that Google does not fail. Google fails all the time. It is a testament to their ingenuity (and desperation to find something profitable besides search) that they create many new products, and these products very frequently fail miserably without any profit generation. Google fails all the time, and it may be good because in the process they make some cool stuff, but they are not an invincible juggernaut. I hope Android does well so the iPhone has some innovative competition.
LOL
You really have no idea of anything (sorry to be this harsh...)
Google will (and read it again... will) surpass Apple with Android whether you, and Apple, want it or not... it's a fact, and more than that... the angrier Apple gets, the greater the menace is for sure.
Google has created Android for a reason, and that reason is winning, and they will win. Google does not fail.
Android is more flexible than iPhone... and that's something Apple cannot fight given its greed for money (and control).
You also forget that Android is used by many manufacturers, Google's iPhone is just one of them. The big ones are selling many units every day
And no, I'm not any fan of Google nor Apple. I just read the news
You are right Android will overtake iPhone, but its kind of irrelevant. iPhone will maintain the premium market and the share of the profits for sometime.
But what is wrong is that Google does not fail. Google fails all the time. It is a testament to their ingenuity (and desperation to find something profitable besides search) that they create many new products, and these products very frequently fail miserably without any profit generation. Google fails all the time, and it may be good because in the process they make some cool stuff, but they are not an invincible juggernaut. I hope Android does well so the iPhone has some innovative competition.
Guys, this all boils down to alleged patent infringement. If you can't get enough of your soap operas on TV I suggest maybe going outside instead of dragging drama storylines into normal business practices.
Steve Jobs had a child out of wed-lock and then denied the child for years. Your point?
Guys, this all boils down to alleged patent infringement. If you can't get enough of your soap operas on TV I suggest maybe going outside instead of dragging drama storylines into normal business practices.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010...-is-********-adobe-is-lazy-apples-steve-jobs/
This kind of crap does fuel the fire tho.
I'd say Grimmace but pear, yeah, same shape...
...and c'mon guys, enough with the childish antics. Everyone is known here for their biases. Laguna is a Mac guy, Aiden is a Windows guy, as tends to be Morphing Dragon and Xb... Let's not get into pissing contests on a front page forum, take it to a private forum.
That child wasn't outside of his marriage, that was before he got married, his girlfriend was the mother. Jobs later honored his daughter through the LISA project in 1978.
...and what does this have to do with Apple and Google? It's comments such as this (and the last 20-30 comments, in general) that make one stop and realize "what the heck are we fighting about???"
wow, this totally goes over your head, doesn't it? Google is not desperate to find new markets besides search, they are desperate for people to use Google services, whatever they are, so they can sell more ads to people.
If you ask me, even after certain ******** products like Wave or Buzz, Google has more balls than most companies out there.
Read the quote it was intended to repond to. Someone was claiming the credibility based on an extra-marital affair, and I pointed out that Steve Jobs refused his daughter when she was first born leaving his wife alone to give birth. I'm glad he honored her after the fact but it doesn't take away to him being a dead beat dad when she was born (forcing the mother to go on welfare.)
FYI: Out of Wed-Lock = Not Married. He had a child with his gf. I'm not knocking the man just get your facts straight.
I'm sure he is too. My $15,000/year computer budget talks while your pennies walk.
No kidding? I thought it was the center of the universe, revolving around Steve-o's office at Apple.
He certainly does.
Like I said, the crappy analogies are on purpose purely for your benefit, so you won't feel alone in the world.
I'd say Grimmace but pear, yeah, same shape...
...and c'mon guys, enough with the childish antics. Everyone is known here for their biases. Laguna is a Mac guy, Aiden is a Windows guy, as tends to be Morphing Dragon and Xb... Let's not get into pissing contests on a front page forum, take it to a private forum.
WRONG
Im a Linux guy who uses a mac as his main machine.
From http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple_p2.html
"Well, in October of 2009, a new application from Apple landed in the U.S. Patent Office. Apple's idea was to program devices to periodically interrupt users with unskippable ads. The ads would temporarily halt performance of the device in order to "compel attention." That on its own is pretty nightmarish but, innovators that they are, Apple found a way to crank it up to that hard-to-reach "Lovecraftian" level.
Their words:
"Apple can further determine whether a user pays attention to the advertisement. The determination can include performing, while the advertisement is presented, an operation that urges the user to respond; and detecting whether the user responds to the performed operation. If the response is inappropriate or nonexistent, the system will go into lock down mode in some form or other until the user complies. In the case of an iPod, the sound could be disconnected rendering it useless until compliance is met. For the iPhone, no calls will be able to be made or received."
Ho-lee ****."
Original here:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...market-with-hardware-subsidizing-program.html
This was a little more enthusiastic.
There was a thread about this before.
If apple gave away free ipods/phones/macs and implemented this system, I'd take one - probably 99% of the world's consumers would too.
Seriously doubt it'll even happen though
Apple are marketing maestros, and I don't think subsidized devices fits into their image (if you mention the iphone........)
Indeed. Patent filing are not indicators of future technologies that will be implemented. Apple patents lots of things that never see the light of day as do other companies.