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Apple's Rivalry With Google Gets Personal

NT1440 said:
Wow, we really live in a celebrity headline driven culture now don't we?

This is just a drama'd up story of businessmen doing what businessmen do.
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I agree with you. But as you witnessed in this thread, it seems to work well.

NinjaHERO said:
It's so funny. This site used to be very pro Google. Now that Apple and Google are "battling" suddenly everyone thinks they are evil. Hilarious.

Please Steve Jobs, tell us who we should hate next. LMAO
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It's so true. It's entertaining to watch one man manipulate the outlook of so many. It happens every product release. you start seeing people find ways to justify products where they previously didnt fit. He can call other people's products lazy while his own products dont work out the door either.

Darkroom said:
fanboyism at its finest.

in this entire thread i have yet to read anything solid against google. it's just fools regurgitating conspiracy theories and crying copy-cat.
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Yep, he stole this and that and no proof. Just stirring the pot

giosaccone said:
Google traitors! :mad:
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Perfect example of the above
 
Deslock said:
Not sure why you're arguing with me anyway since I said not only that the iPhone was hugely innovative, but I also pointed out that Palm, Microsoft, and Google have copied its innovations into their platforms.
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I'm not arguing your point - the Palm was a great device. I owned a couple of them myself and loved the company until they let their OS rot on the vine and finally did the unthinkable - implemented Windows Mobile on their devices. *shudder*

It is annoying when people call the iPhone derivative of other mobile devices without acknowledging the Newton (hence Apple) as a true pioneer in this space.

I know you weren't making this argument yourself, but you hear it over and over again from some of the other commenters.

distortedloop said:
Because you won't just shut up and acknowledge that only Apple can create something amazing, useful, and innovative.
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Straw man alert.

distortedloop said:
You've called me some kind of derogatory name in every post addressed to me in this thread.
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Example please?

distortedloop said:
I'm always up to a fresh start, though. :cool:
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Not really necessary - I don't have any issue with you personally. I would like you to elaborate on my supposed name calling though. :confused:

I did call xbjllb a "jilted lover" (not really much of a personal insult, but an appropriate metaphor) because he's been ranting and raving about Blu-ray on Macs (the lack thereof, actually) forever now.
 
Has anybody changed their default search engine (Google) to Yahoo? I never have tried Yahoo on my phone because I think I've gotten used to just having Google as it's already there. Google pays Apple hundreds of millions of dollars to be the default for a reason.

I'm gonna switch it to Yahoo and try it for about a week (if I can make it that far) and see how I like it. Maybe I can learn something from the switch. Anybody else with me?
 
****. I just noticed a trend here. Has anyone noticed how most big threads in here get somewhat out of topic and almost always turn into a *****torm whenever the same guys appear?
 
Both Google and Apple do the same thing. Nom nom nom! How they go about it is different.
The NY Times story doesn't give us what we Apple nerds haven't figured out already.
 
I think the real bad blood is that Schmidt spent all of that time on the Apple board of directors for too long. The board probably didn't know about the iPhone any earlier than the rest of us (January 07'), and if they did know, it probably wasn't that much info/that much earlier.

So before Google entered into the phone/os space, there really wasn't a lot of overlap. Maybe Steve waited too long to ask Schmidt to step down.
 
Well........

Let's review what Apple and Google have in common:

They both have (or will have) computer systems that they designed.
(Mac OS X and Google Chrome OS)

They have both developed mobile platforms.
(iPhone OS and Android)

They both have web browsers based on WebKit.
(Safari and Google Chrome)

They both have email clients.
(MobileMe and Gmail)

No wonder they are against eachother. And P.S. it's would be really weird if Bing made it to Apple's Safari. I'm not sure it would be a good thing ether.
 
LagunaSol said:
SActually, I'm not attacking you at all - only your disingenuous argument.

This from the guy who interjects his commentary with "******," "silly responses," "laugh out loud," "clown," "diatribe" and "fanboy?" :rolleyes:

Specious arguments are annoying and I'm happy to counter them. Nothing personal. There's no reason we can't disagree (even strongly) without resorting to personal insults. You should note that I did not resort to name calling in my responses to your arguments.
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I've not called anyone here names (well, perhaps beyond fanboy) or questioned their intelligence, unlike you.

I used the term "******" in a conversation with someone else as a descriptive term of Steve Jobs' treatment of his ex-girlfriend and illegitimate daughter in relationship to whether we should declare Google evil because of Eric Schmidt's alleged adultery. That's somehow an attack on you...? Once again you quote something out of context to suit your ends, rather than fairly address the topic at hand. Typical. :confused:

Laugh out loud. Yes, indeed, that's certainly a vicious attack, even when I found the comment I read to be so amusing and self-serving that I literally laughed out loud. Oh, the inhumanity of it.

Sadly, it's not even ironic that someone whose first response to me in this thread started with "fail" and ended with stating that I was "either 1) a moron, 2) blinded by his own BS, or 3) both" would take offense at having his comments called "silly", "diatribes", or that the common insult of "you must be easily amused" would be retorted with the word "clown".

Glass houses for both of us, it seems.

I'm done. Take your best shot, you can have the last word if you'd like. (hint: I won't see it.)

Is it surprising that a thread on a story based on hatred and childish behavior by Apple and Steve would devolve for some of us into hatred and childish behvior? Not sure whether to :eek: or :D
 
Alisstar said:
Has anybody changed their default search engine (Google) to Yahoo? I never have tried Yahoo on my phone because I think I've gotten used to just having Google as it's already there. Google pays Apple hundreds of millions of dollars to be the default for a reason.

I'm gonna switch it to Yahoo and try it for about a week (if I can make it that far) and see how I like it. Maybe I can learn something from the switch. Anybody else with me?
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Isn't all a commission thing? Being the default search engine in any browser is big money for the search company, and companies like FireFox/Mozilla make their revenue off the kickback on the search.

Instead of switching, there's a few sites out there that you let you compare the results from Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc in one window with one search. You should check it out and see how the results compare in real time, and who best serves up the information in the manner you want it.

Google (or Yahoo) for those sites. :D
 
jdechko said:
I think the real bad blood is that Schmidt spent all of that time on the Apple board of directors for too long. The board probably didn't know about the iPhone any earlier than the rest of us (January 07'), and if they did know, it probably wasn't that much info/that much earlier.

So before Google entered into the phone/os space, there really wasn't a lot of overlap. Maybe Steve waited too long to ask Schmidt to step down.
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Board certainly knew. I they asked they would have been enttled to the information, and everyone knew apple was doing some sort of phone, so they would have asked.
 
seedster2 said:
It's entertaining to watch one man manipulate the outlook of so many.
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Then you (and your ilk) are very easily entertained. Or, perhaps the anti-Steve Jobs fanaticism far outweighs any of the other (alleged) varieties. [it's increasingly difficult to imagine the Apple haters have any sort of life outside these forums.]

Else, what motivates such reactive/impulsive posting?
In fact... why come here at all? :confused: Jealousy?
 
distortedloop said:
Isn't all a commission thing? Being the default search engine in any browser is big money for the search company, and companies like FireFox/Mozilla make their revenue off the kickback on the search.

Instead of switching, there's a few sites out there that you let you compare the results from Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc in one window with one search. You should check it out and see how the results compare in real time, and who best serves up the information in the manner you want it.

Google (or Yahoo) for those sites. :D
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That's cool! Can you provide me with the name of one of those sites?
 
distortedloop said:
I've not called anyone here names (well, perhaps beyond fanboy) or questioned their intelligence, unlike you.
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Still waiting for you to give me a single example of me calling you names.

Or are you just going to throw an accusation and run?
 
DaveSW said:
absolute non-sense.

manufacturing products in China = business. does not censor freedom of speech.

censoring search results in China = bowing down to chinese censorship and free dom of speech FOR MONEY. this is 100 times more EVIL.
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Oh please, get off your high horse. Most Chinese, including political activists, want Google to stay in China. Even in its censored form, google provides far more and "edgier" results than the official alternatives.

So tell me, who should Google listen to? The Chinese people, who want options even if they are imperfect, or idiot Westerners who don't have a clue about China and want Google to leave to "prove a point." Principles are great, but when serving your principle causes harm to the people you allege to care about, its called stupidity.

Amusingly enough, if Google up and left China, the Chinese Government would be out partying in the street... along with you. Strange bedfellows.
 
bobob said:
I did three searches and the best results were from Bing every time. I've become a bit of a fan of Bing in the past month or two despite my natural distaste for everything M$. It's image search is particularly good.
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Google was the only one to pony up this sweet "sweaty Ballmer" result. ;)

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MorphingDragon said:
I use dogpile. Beats your measily single search engine out of the water. ;)
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The only problem is that MS has a history of surpassing the competition, driving them out of business, and then failing to innovate for a decade or so. In the first browser wars, there was a time when IE was the *****.

They did it in office suites and OS's as well.
 
cmaier said:
The only problem is that MS has a history of surpassing the competition, driving them out of business, and then failing to innovate for a decade or so. In the first browser wars, there was a time when IE was the *****.

They did it in office suites and OS's as well.
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IE was never *****?

I remember hating IE when I was a kid. I used Netscape then Firefox.

bobob said:
Wow - - I didn't realize dogpile was still around - - it's from the paleolithic era of the internet!
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And google isn't?
 
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