If you are ok with 4k, check out Cooler Master GP27U, 27" 4k 160Hz MiniLED with 576 local dimming zones, tick almost all the boxes. It had some firmware issues but mostly sorted out. At half the price of a ASD, really a great deal IMO.
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Apple's Rumored 27-Inch Display With ProMotion No Longer Planned 'For Now'
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or LG saw no use in it with the volume apple would order, and thus the price apple would charge it was found to be not of use.
I get this deep deep feeling apples next play is OLED or micro led and just skip mini LED
I expect it's sold within expectations. Apple had no reason to offer the Apple Studio Display when they had relied on the UltraFine for so long. IMO, the ASD was released because there has been a vocal demand for it from Apple customers (even if almost none of them post on Macrumors).
Currently there are some significant issues that crop up when attempting to stream both high bandwidth audio and video at 120hz or above. Heck even refresh rates of 100hz are problematic.
The demuxing process appears to introduce significant lag which results in either unsatisfactory user experience with clear display refresh responses or serious audio artifacts and delays affecting lip sync and interactive sound response.
This becomes especially problematic with DRM content as the specifications do not allow for the streams to be decoupled from source to display…
On PCs currently the ONLY way to be able to deliver an acceptable user experience and consistent audio without artifacting or desyncing is by using two separate audio/video streams. One with a 60fps video and high bitrate audio stream and another with high resolution and high framerate video and an effectively unused or non-active audio stream.
This is frankly a massive PITA and it’s cumbersome to implement. (Currently employing just such a setup driving 4K HDR at 120hz along with HBR Dolby Atmos Audio to a separate / independent receiver.
The DRM implementations don’t allow you send the video and audio on separate components without converting to analogue so you need two independent and concurrent streams. Massive waste and I imagine the issues they’re running into is the same when attempting this in the Pro Motion displays.
One of two things need to happen to resolve this:
1. Either the industry needs to come up with new hardware that can handle everything over one bus with one chip.
Or
2. The standards for DRM need to allow demuxing the audio / video streams in software and then the system can deliver the audio and video in sync over appropriate buses.
This is an industrial tug of war that I don’t see getting resolve any time soon as it’s been a problem for years now with absolutely no progress outside of people like myself figuring out sad and expensive hacks to get setups like these to work.
Edit: this is not a noticeable problem for many non-interactive content streams (i.e. films and video) but in a computing environment where HBR audio is muxed in real time it’s really a massive issue.
It is legit possible that it was cheaper to integrate an A series chip they already have tons of and lots of experience working with into the monitor, given the relatively low quantity of monitors vs phones etc apple sells, than it would have been to put a less complex but more bespoke controller in instead.
This is the only thing I’ve wanted to match my promotion MacBook Pro this is frustrating
Don't know about you all, but I for one am grateful Apple and Tim Cook have the courage to not release a high refresh rate desktop monitor.
Nobody needs 120hz display or more than 16gb RAm.
Bravo, Apple, BRAVO!
Nobody needs 120hz display or more than 16gb RAm.
Bravo, Apple, BRAVO!
If they can make a 27" iMac, they can make a standalone 27" monitor. If they apparently can't make the monitor, how do we expect an iMac to be possible.
I would be with you on this if it wasn't for the price gouging Apple does elsewhere with RAM and SSDs. It might be cheaper for Apple to do this, but they'll still charge the consumer an arm and a leg for it.
Thats the retail price of a Cinema display from a decade ago. A Mac Mini has always sold at the 599 price point for more than a decade and Apple has always had a $999 notebook.
I was part of the tech layoffs last summer and couldn’t hold off any longer and purchased an ASD for work even though all the rumors were pointing to higher-end displays being imminent. I also couldn’t justify spending $6K on the APD XDR with it being 3 years old already at the time. I wonder what happened to the rumored 7K display? I suspect the only logical sense would be for it to be released in conjunction with the upcoming AS Mac Pro. I never understood how the rumored ASD ProMotion would fit into the lineup being a standalone display at 27”.
The same way a 2010 MacBook Air cost $999 and a 2020 MacBook Air cost...$999.
I don't believe the 7k rumour. 6k at 32" is already >200 ppi and enough to qualify as retina. 7k would allow a push to a larger size, but I don't think there is much market for monitors >32" - at least not for 16:9 displays. If Apple embraced 21:9 ultrawide displays with a 7k3k panel that would be fantiastic, but I can't see it.