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If they kill magsafe and ports, kill good keyboard - last macbooks air will be product in very high demand... last reasonable macbook;(

I’m afraid they’ve thought about that and countered it with making Mojave fonts look blurry on a non-retina screen. I’m also afraid I’m only half joking here.
 
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Agreed. Mojave looks great on Retina, but doesn't look good on non-Retina.

Probably why older Mac’s won’t support Mojave, my 2011 MacBook Pro is one that won’t another reason why I want to upgrade this year. The features in Mojave looked good when they were demoed at WWDC, especially dark mode I think that will be a great feature.
 
What I want: the 12 inch to be remained the MacBook air go down in price to $899, have a MacBook 13 inch be $999 (non touch bar, two ports, retina screen and all that) and then the one that I'd buy be a MacBook 14 inch or 15 inch at $1499. Processor good enough for photoshop, but really it's my portable so I want it for word processing on the go. I have an iMac for the heavy lifting. I think the time of a bigger screen consumer device is here, and 14 inch screens are so nice even for just word processing.

What I think will actually happen: MacBook goes down to $999, MacBook escape 13 inch is the new MacBook 13 inch at $1299 with the third gen butterfly keys (don't love it but I'll live with it) and have to upgrade it to probably $1500 to get 16 gigs of memory and a 512 SSD. Who am I kidding, that plus AppleCare will push me up closer to $2,000.
 
Probably why older Mac’s won’t support Mojave, my 2011 MacBook Pro is one that won’t another reason why I want to upgrade this year. The features in Mojave looked good when they were demoed at WWDC, especially dark mode I think that will be a great feature.
Well, the MacBook Airs still support Mojave (as do the Mac minis and Mac Pros).
 
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Well, the MacBook Airs still support Mojave (as do the Mac minis and Mac Pros).

My 2011 MacBook Pro won’t, it’s not on the list. I’m majorly due an upgrade anyway, just waiting for this 13” announcement and the update to the 12” MacBook in order to decide which one i’ll get.
 
probably need to wait until Sept 2020 but the only way to live up to the MacBook Air legacy and ensure adequate market segmentation between it and the MacBook line is to make the Air into an apple designed A series chip device that runs iOS apps in a trackpad/keyboard environment.
thinness. no need for ultra high power. low power requirements. good quality screen and weight and size that can compete with iPads but not verge entirely from apple management's insistent mantra of keeping separate macOS and iOS.
that is where the future is heading anyway for Consumer level devices, and its apple's great strength to be able to begin to drive customer potential into that direction.
processing done locally on the machine, but use of iCloud for most of the storage. chrome books done better. simpler than Surface.
 
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probably need to wait until Sept 2020 but the only way to live up to the MacBook Air legacy and ensure adequate market segmentation between it and the MacBook line is to make the Air into an apple designed A series chip device that runs iOS apps in a trackpad/keyboard environment.
thinness. no need for ultra high power. low power requirements. good quality screen and weight and size that can compete with iPads but not verge entirely from apple management's insistent mantra of keeping separate macOS and iOS.
that is where the future is heading anyway for Consumer level devices, and its apple's great strength to be able to begin to drive customer potential into that direction. chrome books done well.
Nope,
Everyone I know in Business tried using iPads with Keyboards as a lightweight portable alternative. After a year, everyone went back to a Mac. The reason? IOS SUCKS as a business OS beyond phone level

Don't know what your Business is, but it's not the work area that makes the world go around, believe me.
 
Why not use Intel's Jumpina Lake processors? Especially if they're going to screw it up by ripping out all the features that are why I bought my last one, like MagSafe2, which I really like, and USB-A 3 ports, which are required. Hell, why not also rip out the headphone jack, and say it's for the sake of "enhanced water resistance," or that it's due to "courage". (Christ... courage... really? Greed, perhaps, but not courage.) They'll probably rip out the SD port and... still won't have wireless/magnetic/inductive charging. They'll just have those stupid little USB-C ports, or rather PORT, because I can see them putting out a MacBook Air refresh that has exactly one hole in it, and that's a USB-C port. And of course, they'll screw up the keyboard because "courage" or whatever excuse they've got, and they'll have yet another device they can add to the lineup that I categorically refuse to buy.

Actually, almost everything Apple makes not currently on that list will soon join the majority ON the list, and I will leave Appleland for good and all. Because I won't pay exorbitant amounts of money for stuff that no longer "just works". Apple was once a great company, but they're jumping the shark, and Steve Jobs is no longer alive enough to save them again.
 
Yes, they will drop the "air" and consolidate to the macbook line.
Why? Because the "air" is no longer the unicorn it once was, most laptops are now thin/light. Times have changed. Heck the 12" macbook comes in at 2lb (compared to the 3lb "air"). It's also razor thin.

On the other hand, I personally REALLY like the current air over the 12" macbook.

I hope that the child of the two is 13", narrow bezels (how long have we wanted that????), please please please add at least one usb 3.0 port.... and sure, why not a usb-c. Also, please keep the fan (unlike 12" macbook) so the processor will not be thermal limited. And please don't talk to me about those stupid butterfly keys, give me a "fat" laptop instead.

Resolution... 1440x900 of the current air is fine, maybe even bump to 1680x1050. If you're doing serious work, u'll be connected to a monitor anyway, after all, this is suppose to be their "non-pro" line. And for g_d sake, don't kill Tyrion! opps, I mean the headphone jack :p

My .02,
Paul
 
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Resolution... 1440x900 of the current air is fine, maybe even bump to 1680x1050. If you're doing serious work, u'll be connected to a monitor anyway, after all, this is suppose to be their "non-pro" line. And for g_d sake, don't kill Tyrion! opps, I mean the headphone jack :p

On Mojave the current resolution won’t be fine unless you prefer blurry fonts. I don’t think Apple’s going to release another non-retina computer given how the OS is evolving.
 
What I suspect they are gonna do is use the entry level MacBook Pro without Touch Bar as its successor. Yes, you are gonna lose useful ports. Apple is gonna drag you kicking and screaming into this new era whether you like it or not.
 
Nope,
Everyone I know in Business tried using iPads with Keyboards as a lightweight portable alternative. After a year, everyone went back to a Mac. The reason? IOS SUCKS as a business OS beyond phone level

Don't know what your Business is, but it's not the work area that makes the world go around, believe me.
I agree. I and a colleague tried, separately and independently. The iOS interface is just not suited for most business use.

My iPad is my go-to entertainment device, but I sit at my iMac or reach for my MacBook when doing business productivity apps.

My MacBook is actually lighter than my iPad Air 2 + keyboard BTW.

BTW, Chrome OS and Linux suffer the same problem, for different reasons. For me, the only two viable OSes in this context are Windows and macOS.
 
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I still think this is a dumb idea. Three laptop lines is just spreading it too thin and confusing things. Keep it simple. Discontinue the MacBook Air & let the MacBook become the new low end Apple laptop. Just add some more ports.
That is likely what they are doing, they’re just also adding a 13” SKU (and I’d guess killing off the ntb pro?) the surface pro uses a full 15W U cpu in a fanless design so I can potentially see Apple doing the same here. I’d like to see a 15” MacBook added too but there’s zero rumours for that so I won’t hold my breath.
 
This staggered role out has left their product line a disjointed mess. Way too many skus at similar price points.

I suspect they will find a way to cripple these with some fatal flaw but remain cautiously optimistic.
 
"It's unclear if it will be branded as a MacBook, MacBook Air, or otherwise, but it'll be a new lower-cost, lower-spec option below the MacBook Pro."

I think we can all agree with won't be branded as a PC (Windows system), not to be confused with "Personal computer"
 
When Apple introduced the 12" MacBook, they had all intentions of killing the 11" and 13" Macbook Air (Mid 2015) within 6-9 months, but between the keyboard, the single USB-C port and the price, they underestimated how people would respond to it, which is to say, they did not respect the legacy that the MacBook Air had created. People for months had been asking for Apple to upgrade the screen (50/50 Retina to "at least" IP-S), but Apple decided that they knew better and were going to thrill us with this tiny MacBook.

Here we are 3 years later and the MacBook Air just keeps on selling. Currently, Apple does not have a CPU to put in a new 13" MacBook quite yet, because they know they need to put the latest and greatest for this launch and Intel has not released Whiskey Lake CPUs yet. Or they have not released a 4-core U-Series CPU yet with Iris Plus Graphics.

Apple does not release computers the way PC manufacturers do, and probably never will, although they may make an exception for this launch.
I don’t think Apple ever intended or thought that a 1,299 machine was going to kill their $999 machine. MBA sells at a price point, and it’s the single best selling laptop Apple has because of it.

But I have no idea what they’re going to do for a MBA refresh. They could just drop the form factor altogether and rename the nTB MBP to MBA. For CPU the current dual core 15W with Iris graphics (I5-7360U) that’s in the nTB is fine, it can be updated next year. It really doesn’t need the latest CPU, evidenced by the fact it’s currently using 5th gen.

I don’t think a 13” version of the $1,299 12” rMB makes any sense. How does that get them to $999? What’s the point of another 5W TDP model that’s barely larger than the current 12”? Maybe this line gets re-branded as MBA. Adding a 14 or even 15” model would be nice. Add TB3 when Intel supports it on-CPU. MBA goes upscale, pricing for the 12” could drop some, maybe to $1,149 or 1,199, but not to $999.

Instead, the $999 entry level model comes via cost reductions to the nTB model. Maybe drop TB3 and just support USB 3.1 Gen 1 or Gen 2 on the USB-C ports. Maybe no P3, and a sub-retina 1920x1200 display. I don’t know if they could just call it MacBook even if the current MacBook gets re-branded as MacBook Air, which would already be confusing enough.
 
Agreed. Mojave looks great on Retina, but doesn't look good on non-Retina.
Looks okay to me.
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Nope,
Everyone I know in Business tried using iPads with Keyboards as a lightweight portable alternative. After a year, everyone went back to a Mac. The reason? IOS SUCKS as a business OS beyond phone level

Don't know what your Business is, but it's not the work area that makes the world go around, believe me.
This circles back to the iPad being a content consumption device. It's great for that but lousy for anything that creates for any extended period. Some people will always disagree though.
 
I don’t think Apple ever intended or thought that a 1,299 machine was going to kill their $999 machine. MBA sells at a price point, and it’s the single best selling laptop Apple has because of it.
I think Apple is catering to market segments. The Pro market. The one port/business/small/quiet/shiny market. The el cheapo market. They've got a foot in each because the Pro market expects to spend $2k on a laptop, the MB market will pay anything for these features, and the people who have a mental block beyond 999$. The cost of MBA parts isn't gonna decrease over time as the Broadwell processor becomes a scarce product so they're forced to upgrade. I think Apple is afraid to kill the MBA completely due to said 999$ mental block for many people so hedge their bets to see what sticks. This is Apple's way post-Steve as they're not sure.
 
I think Apple is catering to market segments. The Pro market. The one port/business/small/quiet/shiny market. The el cheapo market. They've got a foot in each because the Pro market expects to spend $2k on a laptop, the MB market will pay anything for these features, and the people who have a mental block beyond 999$. The cost of MBA parts isn't gonna decrease over time as the Broadwell processor becomes a scarce product so they're forced to upgrade. I think Apple is afraid to kill the MBA completely due to said 999$ mental block for many people so hedge their bets to see what sticks. This is Apple's way post-Steve as they're not sure.

Realistically, I think they will brand the tiny MacBook the Air and they'll make a lower end previous MBP with two ports the "new" MacBook. That way, you have your MBP for "pro's", your Air's for "executives" and then the MacBook for "plain old consumers that just don't care." Pro, Executive, Consumer.
 
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