Righhhttt, spoken like someone who probably has zero clue. Thank YOU for the laugh that is the clueless consumer.
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Apple's Secure Video HomeKit Feature Requires a 200GB or 2TB iCloud Storage Plan
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Righhhttt, spoken like someone who probably has zero clue. Thank YOU for the laugh that is the clueless consumer.
Thought the same thing about you funny dat. Maybe in your world all homes are the same one room affairs.
they did in the past, that's for sure. Now they are $50 for first camera and $30 each additional camera per year. The thing with nest, it records 24/7 so no "missing anything" not picked up by the motion detection. I wouldn't say it's too bad on the price. We have 4 cameras.
It is possible that sophisticated burglars are cutting lines, I am pretty sure that “petty robbers” are not. Most people who break into homes are neighborhood kids and/or local drug addicts.
However, I do agree that having local storage is a good thing. NetAtmo offers on device local storage, and lets you store your video on any sever you wish to use. Were I making the decision at Apple, my concern about local storage is that when someone breaks into it and releases the video, l would not want to take the blame.
Totally true, but almost no consumer will do that. They will not even have a UPS for the AppleTV/HomePod and/or router.
The text states that 10 days of video (or video clips - it's not clear) is "free". So as long as you have space in your iCloud account you can no doubt keep as many days as you wish.
You are not required to use Apple’s storage. NetAtmo lets you store your video on any server you choose (using FTP or Dropbox).
They provide this as a free add-on for people on at least the 200GB tier. This service does not consume any of the storage you are buying from Apple, but is given in additional to it. Not very hard to understand. Again, no one is required to use this, nor to buy more storage, but is an option for people who want it.
Curious what’s going to happen with those camera companies, like Logitech, that offer Motion zones and “person” detection with their storage plans. My Logitech covers my whole driveway and part of the street with the 180 deg viewing angle but I don’t need a notification for ever car that drives by. Need the motion zones for my driveway.
A few things that aren't clear. Can I store video files indefinitely if I'm okay with them counting towards my 2TB storage after 10 days?
And is there an easy way to store local copies so as long as I download within the 10 day window I can keep a local copy forever?
I've been interested in getting some of these cameras for ages, but uploading my unencrypted videos (as well as every other possible scrap of information they can get) to some random shady company's cloud in China is a hard dealbreaker for me. Apple's offering sounds ideal.
And is there an easy way to store local copies so as long as I download within the 10 day window I can keep a local copy forever?
I've been interested in getting some of these cameras for ages, but uploading my unencrypted videos (as well as every other possible scrap of information they can get) to some random shady company's cloud in China is a hard dealbreaker for me. Apple's offering sounds ideal.
You’ve been watching too many movies.
My cousin is a police detective and he says crooks never cut phone lines let alone use something as “high tech” as WiFi jammers. They just break in, grab stuff fast and split. Clothing takes care of getting ID’d by any camera (like a balaclava). Most don’t even worry about alarms because they expect to be gone long before the police arrive.
The most “high tech” break-ins he saw were at apartment buildings with an RFID scanner to unlock the door for residents. They defeated the front entrance scanner so they could open the door and gain access.
Did they copy someone’s RFID tag? Use a radio scanner to record people as they open the door? No. They literally smashed open the front door keypad/scanner, found the two wires that powered the solenoid in the door lock, and jumped them to open the door. That’s it.
You give thieves way too much credit.
Not sure if anyone is aware but for the Logitech Circle 2, if you click on an event in the Logi app, say motion detected, there’s a download icon to the left. If you press that, the share sheet comes up and you can store the video straight to your photos app. Is that not better than 10 day cloud storage?
Probably going to look at ditching my Nest cameras. Honestly, the nest cameras are becoming glitchy as heck anyway. My Nest Secure went off today and trying to look at the camera footage to see what was going on was abysmal. The feed constantly stutters and skips, and this is with having a fiber 1 gbps connection. I've had so many "credits" from Google the past 6 months due to my camera issues that I haven't had to pay for Nest Aware.
I have arlo. Free 7 day cloud storage. Free for up to 5 camera. Need more cameras? Just add a second bridge. You can also insert a micro sd into the bridge and it will save it locally.
Yeah right.
Tell your friends to skip two lattes per year (or couple of beers) and put that money into the lowest tier iCloud subscription instead.
(Or just use Google Photos and exclude photos from iCloud backup. If they do that, the free 5GB is actually enough for *multiple iOS devices* since it only backs up application data, not executables.)
If they can’t afford to spend £12 per year, I’m wondering how they even survive.
(Of course you just made that up. This is MacRumors.)
I have three Raspberry PIs with cameras, all storing to various places with Bittorrent Sync.
No plans to change.
No plans to change.
Curious if cameras through Homebridge will be allowed. Also keeping in mind how they would control how long the "clips" could be.
Pricewise this is fine. I'm looking forward more to the routers - it'll be interesting to see what they come up with.
That is a weird and trivial comparison. You'd need products that were actually comparable to begin with, before getting into the cost of annual services.
Smart Home cameras and doorbells are insanely varied and fragmented, with very few sharing a complete feature set (like supporting all 3 top smart home platforms).
[doublepost=1559923899][/doublepost]This announcement from Apple is great....except the part where there are no HomeKit security cameras that look even remotely interesting to me. Everything interesting supports Alexa, Google, and not Apple.
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LMAO. No. Not even, nope.
Instead of watching SciFi, spend a couple hours watching the endless array of footage from the many common consumer camera products released in the last few years, that thwarted an endless amount of petty crime from complete idiots.
Which products do you consider interesting? The NetAtmo indoor and outdoor cameras are pretty nice, as are the Arlo cameras. Have not used the Eufy ones, so I cannot comment on them. Given this, I would never allow Ring cameras in my home, if they are required to connect to their service, and given Google’s track record ignoring privacy, I would not allow Nest Cameras (not to mention the fear that Google will just drop support as they do with some many products).
Do the privacy issues matter to you (I mean that seriously, they do for some and not for others)? If so, how are you solving the problem currently?
