Apple's Share of Worldwide Smartphone Market Slides as Samsung Continues to Surge

[pgiguere1]

No, the 4 million figure of iPhone 4S was a direct sales number to the consumers. The 9 million "preorder" of Galaxy S3 were the orders by the carriers and retailers worldwide prior to the launch of the phone, which is actually very clear in the original Korean articles.

Thanks for the correction. I still haven't found the original article by The Korea Economic Daily (why can't they link it?) but Reuters make it pretty clear that the 9 million number are orders from distributers, retailers and carriers.

It's a shame that other occidental publications simply call them "preorders" without specifying those are basically units to be eventually shipped, not units customers have actually preordered.

There's no point calling them preorders at all, they're just orders from whoever will sell them. That would be like saying the iPhone 5 already has "50 million preorders" just because that's the number Apple expects to ship to Apple stores by the time the iPhone after is released.

The article doesn't even specify a timeframe for those orders. The original Galaxy S is still sold by many carriers who probably still get new shipments of them, over 2 years after its release.

 

[SkyBell]

Honestly, I just want someone to knock Apple down a notch or two, open their eyes and send them back to their roots, where it took real innovation and design if they wanted to make it. I can only hope this is the beginning of that.

 

[matrix07]

Obviously by outsell I mean number of units sold right now, not total. I never meant to say it sold more in one month than the 4S in almost one year. That would be downright insane.

The achievement is still big since I don't recall any Android phone being the top selling smartphone and surpassing the iPhone (in sales rate, not total number).

It's also worth noting that it had 9 million preorders, while the iPhone 4S had 4 million preorders at the time of its launch.

It shoulld be noted though that:
1. the pre order came from 100 carriers around the world while iPhone pre order number came from actual consumers. And it's always be like this which make Samsung number looks better than it actually was. As I said: people should read everything carefully, especially things concerning Android.
2. The number came from Korean newspaper which I believe is not super reliable. I belive the newspapaer is a part of Samsung marketing hype.

We will see the number next quarter anyway (which will be the worst for iPhones) but I think you spoke too soon that its sales beat iPhone.

 

[smoledman]

No, the 4 million figure of iPhone 4S was a direct sales number to the consumers. The 9 million "preorder" of Galaxy S3 were the orders by the carriers and retailers worldwide prior to the launch of the phone, which is actually very clear in the original Korean articles.

People pre-ordered through the carriers. I can't believe you're trying to spin it that those 9 million weren't all sold.

 

[Oracle1729]

Tim Cook is going to kill Apple faster than Steve Jobs built it up.

One phone model per year vs how many dozen from Samsung? If apple want to limit choice, how about give everyone 64 gig and then you can pick 4, 4.3 or 4.8" screen size? A cell phone is not a one size fits all product, Samsung get that and they are going to destroy Apple in the phone arena.

I love my iPhone, but when my contract is up in October/November, I'm jumping ship to a Samsung GS3 with a decent sized screen. I'm used to android, I prefer iOS, but I prefer a bigger screen more.

August 2012, and not a single desktop computer with a USB 3 port. Outside this forum, Apple is a joke. They're burning bridges in computer market so badly they won't even have that to fall back on if they do lose the iToys market.

 

[fertilized-egg]

People pre-ordered through the carriers. I can't believe you're trying to spin it that those 9 million weren't all sold.

That has nothing to do with end customers' preorder. Those "preorder" from the carriers and retailers numbers are the ones you never hear from Apple because they aren't really preorders but simply orders from the carriers and retailers prior the launch of the phone, which always happens because the retailers need the phones stocked up.

The actual Korean articles are about Samsung telling us about how much attention Galaxy S3 is getting worldwide and the millions of orders are flowing in from the overseas carriers. However the word "preorder" used isn't the same "preorder" usually talked about. In a sense this is one of those lost in translation moments.

I can't believe that you obviously haven't even checked the source of all this and accusing me of "trying to spin". Read the original articles if you want to find out more.

 

[smoledman]

Tim Cook is going to kill Apple faster than Steve Jobs built it up.

One phone model per year vs how many dozen from Samsung? If apple want to limit choice, how about give everyone 64 gig and then you can pick 4, 4.3 or 4.8" screen size? A cell phone is not a one size fits all product, Samsung get that and they are going to destroy Apple in the phone arena.

I love my iPhone, but when my contract is up in October/November, I'm jumping ship to a Samsung GS3 with a decent sized screen. I'm used to android, I prefer iOS, but I prefer a bigger screen more.

August 2012, and not a single desktop computer with a USB 3 port. Outside this forum, Apple is a joke. They're burning bridges in computer market so badly they won't even have that to fall back on if they do lose the iToys market.

That is so ridiculous. People continue to buy Macs and install Windows through bootcamp because PC OEMs suck badly.

 

[LagunaSol]

Funny how you say cheap when, if you took the Apple logo off the iPhone 4S it would be considered a cheap entry level smartphone because that's what it is.

Uh huh. Which one is made of plastic and which one is made of stainless steel? And how exactly does a logo change that?

For every 1 iPhone I sell, I sell 10 premium Android phones that the customers want because they know it's better.

Riiight.

 

[Technarchy]

People pre-ordered through the carriers. I can't believe you're trying to spin it that those 9 million weren't all sold.

They were sold...to wholesalers and retailers.

Samsung does not release throughput to customers.

 

[smoledman]

They were sold...to wholesalers and retailers.

Samsung does not release throughput to customers.

Samsung sold 52 million smartphones last quarter. That's a fact.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Samsung sold 52 million smartphones last quarter. That's a fact.

Which has nothing to do with your misunderstanding "preorder" of Galaxy S3. Also the majority of 52 millions aren't the expensive Galaxy S3 but cheaper phones. I don't think most people realize how low the average selling price of smartphones worldwide are.

 

[Technarchy]

Samsung sold 52 million smartphones last quarter. That's a fact.

So. Most of those phones are not very good.

 

[smoledman]

So. Most of those phones are not very good.

So if it isn't the iPhone it means it's crap right?

 

[Technarchy]

So if it isn't the iPhone it means it's crap right?

I think you should take a moment to actually look at Samsung's global product line and ask yourself how many of those phones you would actually want.

It's mostly 3rd world fodder and Tracfone specials by design.

 

[smoledman]

I think you should take a moment to actually look at Samsung's global product line and ask yourself how many of those phones you would actually want.

It's mostly 3rd world fodder and Tracfone specials by design.

A phone is a phone is a phone. It makes calls, you do some web browsing, you do some apps.

 

[CJM]

Revised UI for iOS, please. Bored of the look.

 

[smoledman]

Revised UI for iOS, please. Bored of the look.

Apple is in love with skeuomorphism.

 

[MuddyPaws1]

They sell 3 different types of iPhones in 2 different colors with 3 different storage capacities. Hardly called a variety. I'm pretty sure once the 5 comes out they will drop the 3GS.

Variety I would like to see it different screen sizes. Maybe I want my iPhone with a slide out keyboard. Maybe a notification light. More colors not just black or white. Stuff like that. But we follow apple like they are god and their rein at the top is coming to an end. Can't stay on top forever


James

I just want a bigger screen and a SD card slot.

 

[DeathChill]

Samsung sold 52 million smartphones last quarter. That's a fact.

The really hilarious part about this post is that it is most definitely not fact. We don't know how many they sold. This a guess by analysts. Analysts are almost always wrong. It could be more or it could be less.

People pre-ordered through the carriers. I can't believe you're trying to spin it that those 9 million weren't all sold.

Uh, they were stock ordered by carriers. Apple doesn't announce their numbers that way. Regardless, wasn't it just said that Samsung has sold a total of 10 million S3's since launch a couple of months ago?

 

[smoledman]

The really hilarious part about this post is that it is most definitely not fact. We don't know how many they sold. This a guess by analysts. Analysts are almost always wrong. It could be more or it could be less.

No matter what Samsung has outsold Apple for 2 consecutive quarters now in smartphone #s and gaining. This quarter is going to be a huge blowout for Samsung due to the S3 and I expect no more then 20 million iPhones.

 

[jvmxtra]

I don't care how great iphone is... If they are going to have another same crap... I am moving out to droid and I will deal w/ cheap plastic samsung phones.

Man, give us some choice.. this is year 2012.. Release 2 big time phone a year.. Release multiple size... Do something other than just another reiteration of iPhone .. same iphone ever since it came out.. please... I rather give my money to apple than samsung but seriously.. iphone 5 don't blow me out of water.. i am going samsung.

And(and I know I am gonna get lot of crap from some people here) perhaps problem is people who defend iPhone. No.. it's NOT ok.. and NO.. apple is losing tons of money by not doing what samsung is doing(by offering many different version of phones and having different cycles..) It's time apple hire some people w/ balls and fire people who are doing nothing(umm iphone designers for iphone 4s? people who did NOTHING for past 2 years?

Joke use to be that droid made people upgrade by making people upset and frustrated.. and apple make people buy their stuff because they love it so much.. I am not so sure if it's like that still.. It is really starting to piss me off.

 

[Oracle1729]

That is so ridiculous. People continue to buy Macs and install Windows through bootcamp because PC OEMs suck badly.

You're delusional if you think that. PC's are superior in every way except the OS and the build quality. With garbage builds like the rMPB I'd also say build quality is debatable now.

If you're installing windows you are far, far better off with a PC. The only reason people install windows on boot camp is if they want a macOS partition and don't have space for 2 computers.

PC's give you more ports, more bays, more expandability, more upgradable paths, little things like a desktop video card in a sub $2500 (and sub $1000) computer. I can't imagine why anybody would even think about buying an Apple unless it's to run MacOS. A cheap hackintosh is better computer than anything apple makes. I was happy paying the Apple tax, but not for the garbage apple is offering today. I actually have 2 computer than can run ML (a 2009 mini and 2011 mbp) as well as a few that can't, I have an iPhone 4s, had an iPhone 4. so I was a pretty avid apple fan. I still have my g3 and g4 powerbooks because I loved them too much to part with them.

PC's don't stop dropping features on 0-2 year old computers (air play, power nap) with no way to fix it short of a whole new computer. If some component is too old for a feature you want, replacing that component is trivial.

PC's don't turn a $1000 27" panel into garbage because Apple says a 2 year old iMac is too old to support all the features.

And PC users aren't stupid enough to spend $150+ on a cable to compensate for a missing port one company is too evil to include.

I've bought my last piece of Apple hardware.

 

[smoledman]

You're delusional if you think that. PC's are superior in every way except the OS and the build quality. With garbage builds like the rMPB I'd also say build quality is debatable now.

If you're installing windows you are far, far better off with a PC. The only reason people install windows on boot camp is if they want a macOS partition and don't have space for 2 computers.

BS. I know someone who just bought an expensive $2000 iMac(to run Windows) because there was no equivalent PC that had a great screen, super quiet, high capacity SSD and core i7.

 

[AidenShaw]

And frankly, your reason (heads down, eyes on their iPhone) can easily be applied to about every god damn phone out there. People everywhere these days are heads down, eyes on their cellphone, be it an Android, Windows Phone, iPhone, dumb feature phone running Bada or a Symbian stack or J2ME or whatever else. People these days just can't seem to let go.

That reminds me of this LOL pic:

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LOL, but also very sad....

 

[AppleScruff1]

BS. I know someone who just bought an expensive $2000 iMac(to run Windows) because there was no equivalent PC that had a great screen, super quiet, high capacity SSD and core i7.

Build your own with better specs for the same price or less. And it won't melt.