Apple's Silicon Chief Talks About iPhone Chips, Face ID, and More in Israeli Interview [Updated]

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Johny Srouji, Senior Vice President of Hardware Technologies at Apple, recently talked about iPhone chipmaking, Face ID security, augmented reality, and more in a wide-ranging interview with Israeli website CTech by Calcalist.


    For context, Srouji leads the team responsible for custom silicon and hardware technologies like batteries, storage controllers, and application processors, including the new A11 Bionic chip in the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X.

    Apple's control over both hardware and software allows Srouji's team to have a three-year roadmap for iPhone and iPad processors:
    Srouji complimented Israel, where he was born and raised, for its significant technological contributions to Apple products. He said Apple now employs over 900 engineers in Israel, up from a reported 700 or so in 2015.

    A few years ago, Apple opened research and development offices in Haifa, north of Tel Aviv, with the facilities serving as the iPhone maker's second-largest R&D operations outside of the United States at the time.

    There, a team of engineers are focused on chip design, testing, and engineering, according to Apple's job listings over the years.
    Apple has also acquired several Israeli companies over the years, including PrimeSense, which developed the original Kinect sensor for Xbox. PrimeSense's 3D sensing tech is believed to be at the core of Face ID on the iPhone X.

    Apple later scooped up Israeli startup LinX, whose dual-lens camera technologies are likely used in the latest iPhone models. It also bought Israeli flash memory firm Anobit Technologies and facial recognition startup RealFace.

    Srouji added that Face ID is the fastest and most secure facial recognition system in the industry. He also said 3D masks shouldn't be able to spoof Face ID, although a questionable video may have proved otherwise just days later.
    Full Interview: Silicon is "Unforgiving," Says Apple's Chip Chief Johny Srouji

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  2. KeyMs92 macrumors regular

    Mar 26, 2015
    Safe to say, this guy is pretty smart.
  3. Jbusick7944 macrumors regular

    Oct 8, 2008
    What in the hell does this mean?
    He told the interviewer "you have to be happy about it because imagine you have the phone and I go aside and I can create a fake of it."
  4. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    All hail to Johny Srouji. This person and their team are the single element responsible for Apple being around today. He is a Deity. :apple:
  5. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    Not really sure how more secure Face ID is, but it sure is more fun.
  6. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    It's "Johny Speak."
  7. odedia macrumors 65816

    Nov 24, 2005
  8. Ramchi macrumors 6502a


    Dec 13, 2007
    Looks like Vietnamese Cybersecurity firm Bkav could fool the FaceID with half face 3D printed mask with 2D images. It says, it will be a problem for popular and famous folks, but ordinary Joe need not worry(what's the use of cracking their iPhone X)!

    IPhone X exclusive for ordinary folks!!
  9. deany, Nov 14, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017

    deany macrumors 68030


    Sep 16, 2012
    North Wales
    He looks like David Byrne's twin brother, Talking Heads:

    And you may ask yourself
    How do I work this?
    And you may ask yourself
    Where is that large automobile?
    And you may tell yourself
    This is not my beautiful house!
    And you may tell yourself
    This is not my beautiful wife!
    And you may ask yourself
    Why is the iPhone X so damm expensive!
  10. tipoo macrumors 6502

    Jan 5, 2017
    One can't dispute the talent of his team. Other flagships are only just slimly beating the iPhone 7 in multicore, and are still about half of that in single core, while the 8/x bounded ahead again. Can't wait to see more future work from them.
  11. mikecorp Suspended


    Mar 20, 2008
    Wonder, if you can unlock dead man's phone using his :confused: face.o_O:mad::apple:
  12. Sill macrumors 6502a

    Nov 14, 2014
    Why does that pic remind me of Marshall Applewhite from Heavens' Gate?

  13. augustya macrumors 68030


    Feb 17, 2012
    What about the small twin kids who unlocked the iPhone X using each other's face to register and then unlock in the Wall Street Journal video ?
  14. ChrisCW11 macrumors 65816

    Jul 21, 2011
    Was this claim of industry's fastest and most secure facial id technology before or after it was revealed that the Facial ID was cracked by wearing a mask?
  15. ph001bi macrumors regular

    May 26, 2015
    This guy is a brilliant mind and, he’s an Arab Christian which goes to show that, contrary to popular beliefs, opportunities in Israel are not limited by race and/ or religion.
    --- Post Merged, Nov 14, 2017 ---
    He didn’t say “Aluminium”.
  16. mi7chy, Nov 14, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017

    mi7chy macrumors 603


    Oct 24, 2014
    False. Windows Hello passes evil twin test and is more resilient against masks unlike Fake ID. That's no surprise, though, since Fake ID is using 2010 Kinect technology that Microsoft dumped for a better inhouse solution.

  17. DTphonehome macrumors 68000

    Apr 4, 2003
    Chew on that, BDS folk. Willing to bet a large percentage of them are using Apple gear (and the rest must be using Intel or other Israel-designed tech).

    Also, Sruji is Arab and a graduate of Technion Institute. So much for apartheid.
  18. Infinitewisdom macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2012
    Ha, that’s really interesting. Good to see.
  19. macTW Suspended

    Oct 17, 2016
    Admirable Apple has high ranking employees who can and do conduct interviews in other languages.
  20. recklesslife85 macrumors 6502


    Sep 17, 2012
    Wales, UK
    Someone better tell him about the 10 year old who can unlock his mothers phone using Face ID...
  21. err404 macrumors 68020

    Mar 4, 2007
    It still is the most secure in the very limited field of face recognition. Details of the hack are very limited and many things about that video seem scketchy. We have no idea how practical the method actually is. For example how the face was initially registered (was he wearing a ski mask, was the mask actually registered instead of his face, and how many tries did this takes. The angle seemed very picky, hence the rig used for the phone and mask).
    At a minimum the effort was far higher than prior hacks with fingerprints, faces or even iris scans.
  22. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    I was told by someone on Engadget the other day that the A-Series of chips aren't innovative.

    All I could do was laugh in his face.
  23. therunningman macrumors newbie

    Aug 30, 2017
  24. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    This 'mask' thing has been debunked on so many levels now I laugh when people bring it up.
  25. asleep macrumors 68040


    Sep 26, 2007

    Can anybody interpret this for me?

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