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Apple's Silicon Chief Talks About iPhone Chips, Face ID, and More in Israeli Interview [Updated]

Ramchi said:
Looks like Vietnamese Cybersecurity firm Bkav could fool the FaceID with half face 3D printed mask with 2D images. It says, it will be a problem for popular and famous folks, but ordinary Joe need not worry(what's the use of cracking their iPhone X)!

IPhone X exclusive for ordinary folks!!

https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-say-broke-face-id-security/
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These guys are scammers, looking for their 15 minutes of fame by claiming they fooled FaceID.
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Jsameds said:
This 'mask' thing has been debunked on so many levels now I laugh when people bring it up.
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This x1,000. Ars Technica has a great article about these guys. They tried to get more information about how it was done and asked a lot of questions. The answers they gave (and the questions they avoided) removes any doubt these guys are scammers.
 
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mi7chy said:
False. Windows Hello passes evil twin test and is more resilient against masks unlike Fake ID. That's no surprise, though, since Fake ID is using 2010 Kinect technology that Microsoft dumped for a better inhouse solution.

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Does it?


Not much better or worse than your video, though in this one we actually see them train the device. We have no idea who or what trained FaceID in that mask video, nor do we see the unlock icon move. For all we know, it could be a screen recording.

I have the same questions Cnet does, with regards to the video you posted.

Can’t always trust what videos you see on the net.
 
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He said Apple is always looking far ahead with its chip designs, with a three-year roadmap leading into 2020.
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Of course they are. You don’t just come up with a new GPU or neural processor overnight. Which is why people who think FaceID was a last minute change because Apple couldn't get TouchID under the screen are completely wrong. The ability for FaceID to work is in the A11 processor, which would have had the specs drawn up a long time ago.
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840quadra said:
I have the same questions Cnet does, with regards to the video you posted.

Can’t always trust what videos you see on the net.
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Yes you can. If it’s negative towards Apple it must be true. If it’s positive it’s doubted and needs to be scrutinized.
 
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For Services/Software division like iCloud, iWork, Mail etc they need to start exploring India like Sundar Pichai from Google or Satya Nadela from Microsoft, just as in hardware innovations from Israel.
 
DTphonehome said:
Chew on that, BDS folk. Willing to bet a large percentage of them are using Apple gear (and the rest must be using Intel or other Israel-designed tech).

Also, Sruji is Arab and a graduate of Technion Institute. So much for apartheid.
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He's a Palestinian Arab citizen of Israel, true. Most Palestinians living under Israeli control, however, are not citizens and cannot vote for the government that controls (to put it mildely) their lives.

You don't know what you're talking about. Besides, the moderators are likely to delete these posts.
 
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ramallite said:
He's a Palestinian Arab citizen of Israel, true. Most Palestinians living under Israeli control, however, are not citizens and cannot vote for the government that controls (to put it mildely) their lives.


You don't know what you're talking about. Besides, the moderators are likely to delete these posts.
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On a plane home from Tel Aviv. I know exactly what I’m talking about. The tech industry there is booming. It would behoove the Palestinians to cooperate and develop their industries to participate. But for that they need good leadership, which they cannot vote for (I assume that’s what you meant about not being able to vote, as there hasn’t been a Palestinian election in many years, and it’s not Israel’s fault).
 
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DTphonehome said:
On a plane home from Tel Aviv. I know exactly what I’m talking about. The tech industry there is booming. It would behoove the Palestinians to cooperate and develop their industries to participate. But for that they need good leadership, which they cannot vote for (I assume that’s what you meant about not being able to vote, as there hasn’t been a Palestinian election in many years, and it’s not Israel’s fault).
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Okay. Since the moderators usually delete posts like these outside the "Politics" threads, I'll let you live in your fantasy world. But no, you really don't know what you're talking about.
 
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ramallite said:
Okay. Since the moderators usually delete posts like these outside the "Politics" threads, I'll let you live in your fantasy world. But no, you really don't know what you're talking about.
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I’m talking about the Israeli tech industry, which is the direct topic of this post. Nothing would make me happier than to see a similar article on a booming Palestinian tech industry. Happy, wealthy neighbors don’t fight, as they have too much to lose.
 
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tipoo said:
One can't dispute the talent of his team. Other flagships are only just slimly beating the iPhone 7 in multicore, and are still about half of that in single core, while the 8/x bounded ahead again. Can't wait to see more future work from them.
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Doesn’t matter when the software still lags and is full of bugs. When did we here on MacRumors start caring about numbers? We really shouldn’t because it’s the software that really matters, that’s what we have to put up with on a day to day basis and what most of the complaints have been about on these supposed “fastest chips in a phone ever!”. The new iPhones don’t really feel that fast at all and that’s because the software has become sh** and doesn’t have the same fit and finish quality standards that it once had before 2013.
 
Jbusick7944 said:
What in the hell does this mean?
He told the interviewer "you have to be happy about it because imagine you have the phone and I go aside and I can create a fake of it."
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asleep said:
Huh?

Can anybody interpret this for me?
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He's saying Apple decided to implement a requirement for a person to look at the phone (pay attention/have eyes focused on the screen) as a security measure; it might not be the most convenient solution but Apple had to draw line somewhere. Otherwise, anyone could make a mask and unlock a phone. It's not a perfect solution (e.g., the mask unlocking an iPhone {that has to be independently verified before we can trust the results}) but works at least as well as TouchID and is ostensibly more secure.
 
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DTphonehome said:
I’m talking about the Israeli tech industry, which is the direct topic of this post. Nothing would make me happier than to see a similar article on a booming Palestinian tech industry. Happy, wealthy neighbors don’t fight, as they have too much to lose.
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Happy to oblige, but read it carefully.
https://qz.com/780819/who-would-wan...ed-territory-meet-the-optimists-of-palestine/

And for your information, the Palestinian "leadership" is not really a leadership, because they don't control anything outside of municipal matters and garbage collection. Everything of consequence is controlled by the Israeli army. There are no 'neighbors' here, there is a single controlling entity over the entire land. with different sets of laws and rights.
 
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Ramchi said:
Looks like Vietnamese Cybersecurity firm Bkav could fool the FaceID with half face 3D printed mask with 2D images. It says, it will be a problem for popular and famous folks, but ordinary Joe need not worry(what's the use of cracking their iPhone X)!

IPhone X exclusive for ordinary folks!!

https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-say-broke-face-id-security/
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Did you miss the part where it requires them to do a 5 minute detailed face scan of the phone's owner using a handheld scanner, and even then it still might not work? If you're going to let someone hand scan your face for 5 minutes and then let them steal your phone, you might as well give them the pin code.
 
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Jbusick7944 said:
What in the hell does this mean?
He told the interviewer "you have to be happy about it because imagine you have the phone and I go aside and I can create a fake of it."
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It means in effect, "Yo' everyone! Stop bitching about Apple Face-ID. It works as well as it does and is better than Samsung's face-scanner which can be fooled way more easy. So just chill." ;)
 
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ramallite said:
Happy to oblige, but read it carefully.
https://qz.com/780819/who-would-wan...ed-territory-meet-the-optimists-of-palestine/

And for your information, the Palestinian "leadership" is not really a leadership, because they don't control anything outside of municipal matters and garbage collection. Everything of consequence is controlled by the Israel army. There are no 'neighbors' here, there is a single controlling entity over the entire land. with different sets of laws and rights.
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All within the hands of the Palestinians to change. Elect good leaders, make peace and renounce violence, and participate in the world and regional economy instead of clinging to a lost cause. Israel does a large amount of trade with Egypt and Jordan (to say nothing of discrete but robust business ties with Gulf nations) and they’d be happy to do it with Palestinians too. I’d gladly use an A-series processor designed in Ramallah.
 
Jbusick7944 said:
What in the hell does this mean?
He told the interviewer "you have to be happy about it because imagine you have the phone and I go aside and I can create a fake of it."
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Israeli here. I read the Hebrew article and it still isn't really clear what he means (the translation is fine) . what I think he means is that consumers should be happy that they invented a method of securing your device by making it only yours. for example with Touch ID, someone can take your phone aside (without your attention) and copy your fingerprint or someone next to u can see you typing your passcode etc. but with Face ID no one can really open your phone unless u intend to, by giving it your full attention and recognition..

again, it isn't very clear what he means, even in hebrew.
 
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DTphonehome said:
Chew on that, BDS folk. Willing to bet a large percentage of them are using Apple gear (and the rest must be using Intel or other Israel-designed tech).

Also, Sruji is Arab and a graduate of Technion Institute. So much for apartheid.
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Why do we keep calling Arab Christians ? there are Christians everywhere in the Arabian Peninsula Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Egypt Jordan almost everywhere what makes it special calling him an Arab Christian ?
 
840quadra said:
Does it?


Not much better or worse than your video, though in this one we actually see them train the device. We have no idea who or what trained FaceID in that mask video, nor do we see the unlock icon move. For all we know, it could be a screen recording.

I have the same questions Cnet does, with regards to the video you posted.

Can’t always trust what videos you see on the net.
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We already know that facial recognition is less effective on young children.

On older children and above, Windows Hello has a much higher success rate than Fake ID that has close to 100% failure rate on all twins from adult twins to twin children and even non-identical siblings.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...l/news-story/4cdee04cc466e4f673c8642f5cb98d22

 
DTphonehome said:
Elect good leaders, make peace and renounce violence
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That's why I maintain that you have no idea what you're talking about because, in your worldview, the factors above are the problem. The lack of interest in peace and the propensity for horrendous US weaponry-sponsored violence are Israel's problems, not Palestine's. Palestinians' problems include the absence of freedom, the lack of control over their own lives and resources, and a system of discrimination that applies from the moment of birth. "Peace" on Israel's terms would only entrench that, not end it. I do not expect you to understand what I just wrote, however, because you are fortunate to have the privilege of not needing to understand it. I'm surprised these posts have not been deleted yet; last time, they promptly were.
 
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