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The stock market recovered from 08, 20 and it will recover from this, always has, always will. Whether that is under Trump or the next President won't really make a difference. It will be interesting to see though if the stock market actually does recover without removing the Tariffs.
This was different as it was self inflicted stupidity
 
The stock market recovered from 08, 20 and it will recover from this, always has, always will. Whether that is under Trump or the next President won't really make a difference. It will be interesting to see though if the stock market actually does recover without removing the Tariffs.

Everything always recovers, but the issue is always the time scale. Would your investment have performed better elsewhere during the same period?
 
I hope everyone took the opportunity to buy at a discount.
I get that it’s probably low risk to put more money in the market now and I would likely get a return on it, but I try not to time the market or react to volatility.

I have my brokerage account with money invested in the Vanguard 500 index fund, and my IRA invested in their 2060 retirement fund. That’s it. I put a sum of money into it over a period of time, and I’ve just let it sit ever since. I haven’t even checked it in years, with the exception of downloading my tax forms.

I got a new job with a pension, so that’s why I haven’t touched my IRA in a while. Otherwise, I’d be making biweekly contributions to it.
 
#1 may not be all that implausible. We fought a war over whether states are allowed to do that (plus a couple other things...) but I wouldn't put it past them to give it a try.
FWIW, this has been considered since the 1970s. (As has dividing the state into 2-3 independent states.) Now, is it possible? Perhaps. . . except that much of their water and much of their electricity comes from out of state. If either was limited, they would be in a world of hurt.
In addition, 45% of all of CA's land is owned by the Federal Gov.
 
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The stock market recovered from 08, 20 and it will recover from this, always has, always will. Whether that is under Trump or the next President won't really make a difference. It will be interesting to see though if the stock market actually does recover without removing the Tariffs.
Based on today’s price, Apple’s stock has risen by 177% over the past 5 years so it was probably due a correction anyway.

However Trump is banking on these tariffs to generate substantial tax revenues so he can introduce tax cuts. That suggests he intends to keep these tariffs for the long term. That will inevitably hit Apple as they rely so heavily on overseas manufacturing. As such this could be a long term problem for Apple.
 
Based on today’s price, Apple’s stock has risen by 177% over the past 5 years so it was probably due a correction anyway.

However Trump is banking on these tariffs to generate substantial tax revenues so he can introduce tax cuts. That suggests he intends to keep these tariffs for the long term. That will inevitably hit Apple as they rely so heavily on overseas manufacturing. As such this could be a long term problem for Apple.
I'm in this camp as well, and a recession will cause even more people to stop buying iPhones.
 
Last weekend we updated our aging iPhones to 16s. We weren’t planning on doing it this early, but we wanted to have phones that would be good for a number of years. This is part of our process of making ourselves as secure as possible. We expect them to be bad ones. This includes updating our aging cars with one new one, that we bought outright, and paying off the house. This runs our reserves down, but we shouldn’t have an emergency need for cash for a good long while. Also I expect the buying power of the US$ will start dropping before long so in a couple of years we wouldn’t be able to get these things.

Yes they could, but they won’t. What Trump is doing is clearly illegal and unconstitutional but impeachment is not on the table any time soon. The Republican majority is beholden to the guy who got them back in control of the ship. Until there is enough pain on the ground that Trumps MAGA supporters turn on him and they get political pressure to do something, they won’t. So I expect things will get bad, before they get even worse.
We have been doing almost the same. Once the news turned sour I bought my wife a 16. After 25 years, and with a heavy heart, I unsubscribed from Adobe, cancelled Amazon Prime. I’m considering Qobuz as it’s French and I’m presuming Apple Music will increase in price down the line.

I bought an M3 Air some months ago but my wife will soon need a replacement for her 2018 MBP. Like you, we’re doing lots of assessment to cover the next 4 years and also planning for major moves away from what could become expensive US products.

Good luck to all those on this journey. What’s happening now is insane.
 
Why is this happening?? Can’t Congress limit Mr. Trump’s powers?
Congress gave the ability to impose tariffs as well as "emergency" powers to the President. Tariffs, per the Constitution, is a power granted to Congress. Many of actions instituted through executive orders have been ceded to the President through the National Emergencies Act.
Sadly, there have been many opportunities for those powers to be taken back Congress. And under the Biden administration, when they controlled both the Senate and the House, returning those power to Congress was briefly discussed. But, as is often the case, when in charge, having those powers is not a problem until the other side has them. Thus, a recent window of opportunity to lessen the power of the President was lost.
IMO, Congress, for many decades now, has failed in their responsibility to keep every President in check. Instead, each administration gains more power and Congress becomes weaker. Reading history, this resembles, to me, of a Julius Caesar moment. But let's remember that the Republic did not fail under Julius Caesar. It failed under his successor, Augustus. IMO, the actions and behavior of the next President will be what will determines the fate of the US. However, we may see a lot of pain until then.
(excuse the rant)
 
They are the reason we are in this mess. Almost 37 Trillion in debt and never any talk of paying it down.
Actually that’s not true. Trump in his first term contributed over $7trilion to the national debt, more than Obama and only slightly less than Biden.

This article has a chart of all the Presidents who have contributed the most to the national debt.

 
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