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Why? In the past, they have been able to steadily produce innovative products. I would argue that the pipeline is becoming dry and they are relying on their name and very good marketing team.
 
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I think these people have no idea what it takes for companies to achieve high market cap values. Obviously, most companies have never had a total market cap of $250B but yet some think it's easy for Apple to simply tack on another $250B to reach that elusive $1T mark. Just a few months back there were people claiming both Amazon and Alphabet would beat Apple to that $1T market cap. I guess it's possible with big investors happily throwing immense P/Es on companies based on vague future performance. Take Microsoft with its P/E of 30 or so. Seriously, how does it earn that P/E when Apple doesn't. Based on fundamentals it definitely doesn't work. Nothing in Microsoft's fundamentals are that much better than Apple's to warrant such a high P/E. I understand Amazon is highly valued for its ability to ruin every other retailer in the U.S. so at least that makes some sense.

I don't know if Apple will reach that $1T mark and I really don't concern myself about it. As long as Apple continues to boost dividends I'll be satisfied. A $1T market cap probably isn't sustainable so I'd rather Apple just reach a sustainable level and stay at that mark for a couple of years.

It might be possible if they continue to accumulate cash. As it stands, they have around $240 billion in cash and cashish investments. That's a pretty big slice of the overall market cap.
 
In that case should investors be very worried. Samsung just launched the gold standard in phones. So apple's biggest cash cow is under threat. As for the Macs and eco system... I'm so close stepping out of it. Overpriced and under delivering and not listening to their customers is forcing Mac users to look elsewhere.
There's been plenty of market for Samsung, Apple and the others for years now. Apple has only 12% of the worldwide smartphone market but Apple gobbles up 91% of the profits.
That's the nice thing about a free market economy, you've got lots of choices. If Apple no longer fits for you, its time to move on. The fact remains that at this particular point in time, the Apple label has never been more profitable so they must be doing something right as a diversified company!
I invested in APPL in the 1990s and my shares are up by more than 2,000% before taxes since purchase. Apple pays me about $5,000 in dividends each year so I can afford to remain loyal and wait for new computer products.
 
Smells like you don't know what you are talking about.

Apple's market caps is $756 billion. Now make us all laugh and come up with an explanation how "pump and dump" would work on a company of that size. If you know what "pump and dump" actually means.

Ahhh yes ... the snarky troll arrives to reveal its ugly head. Unfortunately, that thing you're smelling is your own ignorance with an unhealthy dose of arrogance.

This happens to Apple's stock every time a new device class and/or new iPhone is rumored to be launched.

The Market gets the media to publish outlandish news stories to get people to buy the stock. Thus, driving stock prices higher than the previous quarters. But only after they've published stories saying Apple is in trouble and the prices have decreased to a point where the savvy Market players have bought the stock at a lower price. Hence, it's the price spread that matters and not the market capitalization.

Hence, it's obvious you don't know what "pump and dump" actually means. Here's a short description for further study. I suggest you take a break from trolling and learn something: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/061205.asp
 
I had 100ish shares back before the split that I bought at around 110 bucks a share around Nov 08. Apple took a hit in 09 like most companies did and it dropped like 30 bucks a share down to low 80's. My normal rule is to cut my loses if I lose a certain percentage in a small amount of time and it goes the same if I make a certain amount in a short period of time. I didn't follow this rule though and patiently waited for it to climb back up and sold it for 130 a share (give or take a buck). I watched in agony as they split shares by 7 which would have given me 700 shares which are now worth 150 bucks each (more than what I sold for before the split...). I did move that money to a very good investment that helped pay for our house upon returning from Japan (wife and I are Marines) but I kick myself in the butt every time I see how well AAPL is doing without my money invested in it. I missed out on about 100k over 9 years, pretty good return if you ask me and it probably isn't to late to dump some money on AAPL and still make 20-30 bucks a share between now and the end of the fiscal year.
Plus the dividends you'd be raking in!
 
Ahhh yes ... the snarky troll arrives to reveal its ugly head. Unfortunately, that thing you're smelling is your own ignorance with an unhealthy dose of arrogance.

This happens to Apple's stock every time a new device class and/or new iPhone is rumored to be launched.

The Market gets the media to publish outlandish news stories to get people to buy the stock. Thus, driving stock prices higher than the previous quarters. But only after they've published stories saying Apple is in trouble and the prices have decreased to a point where the savvy Market players have bought the stock at a lower price. Hence, it's the price spread that matters and not the market capitalization.

Hence, it's obvious you don't know what "pump and dump" actually means. Here's a short description for further study. I suggest you take a break from trolling and learn something: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/061205.asp
Actually APPL stock has had a long, slow, fairly steady climb for about five years now. I'm an Apple investor so I've tracked the stock on a daily basis for many years.
Just Google "Apple five year chart" and you'll see nothing that resembles a "pump and dump" pattern. The entire stock market has been in a bull market for eight years, the third longest run in history and APPL's growth patterns are consistent with the market as a whole.
"The Bull Market Just Turned Eight; Apple has surged more than 1,080 percent"
http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/03/bull-market-just-turned-eight-apple-surged-1080-percent/
The numbers speak for themselves. But perhaps there's been eight years of pumping and we're still waiting for the dumping.
 
Why do I have a feeling that all we are going to get this fall is an iPhone 7S? It's like the more money Apple makes the less innovative they get.

Well, logically the better the company is doing financially the more they can rest on their laurels. When it was "innovate or be bankrupt", what a time that was for products. Humans individually are the same way. Ingenuity, critical thinking, and courage (real courage - not Apple BS :rolleyes:) will increase when personal safety is in jeopardy.
 
It looks like stock buy back manipulation is working but be prepared for the pump and dump if you're a small investor.
 
The new MacBook Pro absolutely slays and most 2016 MBP owners can't be happier with it. That's because they actually bought it and loved it, rather than looked at the paper specs and scoffed.

Don't believe the negativity here; the MacWhiners are the exception to the rule. Just reading this website, you'd think that everybody hates the 2016, but that couldn't be further from the truth. :)

I suppose that's your anecdotal analysis. However, after seeing and tyring out the 2016 MBP, I rushed to the Apple refurb store to buy the highest-spec last generation MBP I could get. Now I enjoy proper ports, including HDMI and an SD card slot, a better keyboard, magsafe, and better battery life. I don't know what I'll buy when I need to upgrade, but I doubt Apple will have anything for me. Of course, whatever they have will be incredibly thin and magical, it just won't be useful.
 
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Smells like you don't know what you are talking about.

Apple's market caps is $756 billion. Now make us all laugh and come up with an explanation how "pump and dump" would work on a company of that size. If you know what "pump and dump" actually means.

What it really come down to is, "everything I can't be bothered to understand must be a conspiracy."
 
Where you getting your numbers? In the history of the stock, it has split a total of 56:1 (7-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1). Not that what Markkula (or anybody else) paid for their shares has any bearing on what they are worth today.

Apple Computer, Inc. stock split several times before the initial IPO. Early investors and some employees got stock or stock option shares before some (or all in the case of Markkula) of those pre-IPO splits.

The 56:1 only represents those splits after the IPO.
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The original MBA was priced at $1,799. That was for 2 GB of RAM, a spinning 80 GB hard disk, one USB 2.0 port, and an underpowered CPU.

Underpowered? The original PowerBook was price at over $2,200 and came with a 16 MHz 68000 CPU, 2 MB of RAM, and no disk drive. Over 1000X less powerful than your "underpowered" MBA. According to Wikipedia, Apple sold $1B in PowerBooks that first year.
 
Apple Computer, Inc. stock split several times before the initial IPO. Early investors and some employees got stock or stock option shares before some (or all in the case of Markkula) of those pre-IPO splits.

The 56:1 only represents those splits after the IPO.

As was previously discussed. Very few investors have access to pre-IPO shares, so 56:1 represents what 99.99% percent of investors can have experienced as AAPL splits. I wonder how many pre-IPO Apple investors are still alive?
 
Underpowered? The original PowerBook was price at over $2,200 and came with a 16 MHz 68000 CPU, 2 MB of RAM, and no disk drive. Over 1000X less powerful than your "underpowered" MBA. According to Wikipedia, Apple sold $1B in PowerBooks that first year.

Yes, underpowered. You may not understand "underpowered" was in reference to other laptops available at that time in 2008 when the MBA was introduced. And not in reference to the first PowerBook which was introduced 17 years earlier. That would make little sense.
 
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In that case should investors be very worried. Samsung just launched the gold standard in phones. So apple's biggest cash cow is under threat. As for the Macs and eco system... I'm so close stepping out of it. Overpriced and under delivering and not listening to their customers is forcing Mac users to look elsewhere.

People have been pointing to supposed "iPhone killers" for a decade and their cries of Apple being doomed have turned out to be wrong each and every time.

I stand by my earlier statements. The iPhone faces more competition from earlier versions of the iPhone compared to any other competing smartphone out there.
 
Why do I have a feeling that all we are going to get this fall is an iPhone 7S? It's like the more money Apple makes the less innovative they get.

Doesn't Occam's razor suggest that Apple is earning so much money precisely because they are releasing great products which people want to buy?
 
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Why? In the past, they have been able to steadily produce innovative products. I would argue that the pipeline is becoming dry and they are relying on their name and very good marketing team.
said everyone every year since the iPod.
 
Pre-IPO. I see. That's a really small club. Of course Markkula was one of the first if not the first to put up any cash for the Steves.

As I suggested, Mr. Markkula was the first major investor in Apple Computer, Inc. That's why I referred to his purchase of shares, that's the earliest share value comparison that can be made for Apple. That's the first transaction on which we can base a market valuation for the company. It was very early days and things were moving fast for Apple, but that transaction represented Mr. Markkula agreeing to pay $91,000 for one-third ownership of Apple Computer, Inc.

Mr. Jobs and Mr. Wozniak had previously paid a small amount (and gave other consideration) for shares in Apple. But I'm not counting them as investors.

Mr. Markkula's share purchase represented the first (real) round of equity fundraising by Apple. As I indicated, it was done at 35 cents a share. A couple of months later Apple did another round of equity fundraising, selling 172,500 shares for $3 a share. So Mr. Markkula's investment was - after a couple of months - already being valued at about 9 times what he had paid for it.
 
Smells like you don't know what you are talking about.

Apple's market caps is $756 billion. Now make us all laugh and come up with an explanation how "pump and dump" would work on a company of that size. If you know what "pump and dump" actually means.

You have a very short memory as the market has pumped and dumped Apple stock several times of the years.
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Buy some stock, get dividend checks, pay for Apple purchases in part with Apple's money.

Apple stock is not risk free for people buying in now. You bought in when the price was very low so you can't lose, but for those buying now any downward move in the stock price would easily outweigh the quarterly dividend payments.

Apple are basically a one product company now. If one day the iPhone stops selling so well, Apple has nothing else capable of making up the numbers. Also, if Trump follows through on his promise to slap import duties it could hit iPhone sales.
 
As I suggested, Mr. Markkula was the first major investor in Apple Computer, Inc. That's why I referred to his purchase of shares, that's the earliest share value comparison that can be made for Apple. That's the first transaction on which we can base a market valuation for the company. It was very early days and things were moving fast for Apple, but that transaction represented Mr. Markkula agreeing to pay $91,000 for one-third ownership of Apple Computer, Inc.

Mr. Jobs and Mr. Wozniak had previously paid a small amount (and gave other consideration) for shares in Apple. But I'm not counting them as investors.

Mr. Markkula's share purchase represented the first (real) round of equity fundraising by Apple. As I indicated, it was done at 35 cents a share. A couple of months later Apple did another round of equity fundraising, selling 172,500 shares for $3 a share. So Mr. Markkula's investment was - after a couple of months - already being valued at about 9 times what he had paid for it.

I found this article on Apple stockholders at the time of the IPO:

https://www.quora.com/How-much-equi...O-Did-he-really-have-double-the-equity-of-Woz

Of some interest, the single individual largest stockholder was Steve Jobs. Markkula was second and Wozniak was third. But the largest block by far was "all officers and directors."
 
"Apple are DOOMED! DOOMED I tell you"

:rolleyes::D

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What! It just infuriates them more that so many sheep don't see the truth they make up.

I see a logical flaw inherent in the widespread attribution of the label "sheep" to Apple fans: do the folk attributing this label entirely miss that, by also following the crowd and bandying about this attribution of "sheep", they are, in fact, themselves "sheep" by having nothing more original or sensible to say about Apple fans, and just following the pattern of every OTHER person deriding Apple fans for their passion?

Irony 101.
 
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