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Exactly! I wonder about some people's logic skills around here.

I'm just happy to see the rumours stay alive! :eek: Far from being disappointed by delays, I was beginning to become conditioned to the idea that there may not be a smaller notebook anytime soon. :( I've even learned to really optimize and enjoy my iBook again.
 
I really need a new macbook pro... it does not seem like yesterday's entry has anything to do with this model. I am wondering if there will be any significant changes in the macbook in the near future...

I have one month to take advantage of an educational discount so I am a little anxious to know...

Thanks
 
Umpc

At the recent IDF Intel announced a new generation of processors and chipsets specifically designed to feed the UMPC niche; while it's true that no 'oficial' rumor has been leaked, here's my forecast for 1h2008 :

An upgraded Iphone with a keyboard ( or a miniature macbook if you prefer ). No optical drive.

http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=12969

Bring on the Macpod !=)
 
so, as I thought... There's no new stuff on the WWDC 07. I don't know but I think Apple gotta come with this new stuff (non-computer non handheld) that will make strong the new APPLE INC name... something out of the basics...

well... I hope Apple Inc. stays a float.
 
How can something that's not been announced be "delayed"?

The headline makes no sense.

Leopard was actually delayed. It was announced for release in the Spring, but now it's going to be Autumn.

This device... Apple hasn't confirmed it exists, let alone given a release date. This product has not been "delayed" by any reasonable definition of the word.
 
How can something that's not been announced be "delayed"?

The headline makes no sense.

Leopard was actually delayed. It was announced for release in the Spring, but now it's going to be Autumn.

This device... Apple hasn't confirmed it exists, let alone given a release date. This product has not been "delayed" by any reasonable definition of the word.

What they're saying is: We had some inside info for a product and now that info has been updated to say it's internally delayed and the release date will probably shift too.

Not that hard to get a grip on really.

Whether you think there's any substance to the original rumour/inside info is another thing entirely.
 
What they're saying is: We had some inside info for a product and now that info has been updated to say it's internally delayed and the release date will probably shift too.

Not that hard to get a grip on really.

Whether you think there's any substance to the original rumour/inside info is another thing entirely.

Except that the common passerby could read it out of context and think:

"Another Apple product that's delayed. So how is this company any better than Microsoft? First OS/X 10.5, now this, they don't have their act together out in Cupertino"... blah blah blah.

And while this is posted on MacRumors (so if you considered the source, you would likely deduce this meant a delay of a rumored product, rather than a delay of an actual product) this is the internet, and headlines from "front page" stories have a way of circulating around the internet out of context.

That's the concern I think he was addressing.
 
So where it says Don't Buy -- Updates Soon, can that pretty much be changed back to Buy Only if you Need It? I need to get a MBP, and was expecting something out during June. Guess not anymore. :mad:
 
So where it says Don't Buy -- Updates Soon, can that pretty much be changed back to Buy Only if you Need It? I need to get a MBP, and was expecting something out during June. Guess not anymore. :mad:

If you need it now, go ahead and get it. It's a rockin machine—super fast and gorgeous. It will still be totally rockin in two years' time. . . unless they release the Cyberdine chip, then we're all screwed.
 
I really need a new macbook pro... it does not seem like yesterday's entry has anything to do with this model. I am wondering if there will be any significant changes in the macbook in the near future...

I have one month to take advantage of an educational discount so I am a little anxious to know...

Thanks

Again, go ahead and get it. It'll make you happy. It'll let you get your work done. It will have enough power for you to do pretty much anything for the foreseeable future.

I used to be a "waiter." But then my friend came over to my house with her new MacBook. So NICE. So FAST. I'm getting one, regardless of whether they come out with something new tomorrow.

Anyway, worst-case scenario: You get the MBP, the next they they release something that's super super awesome that you really really NEED, you put your machine on eBay, sell it at a loss of a few hundred bucks and get the new one. A few hundred bucks isn't all that much in the scheme of things, especially for someone who can afford a MBP. . . And the Tiger Migration Assistant makes it SUPER easy to transfer your stuff to a new machine.
 

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They haven't announced any sub-nootbook yet, so you can't call this a delay, this is speculating about speculation :p

How can something that's not been announced be "delayed"?

The headline makes no sense.

Apple Insider is notoriously over-dramatic about this sort of stuff. Plus they've been riding the "Sub-Notebook" wave pretty hard since Shaw Wu sh@t out his 'insider report' about it several months ago. Knowing AI, they will ride the wave hard until the product is released, be it months or years.

:rolleyes: idiots. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming the "delayed" was in quote to make fun of AI, not in seriousness.

-Clive
 
why didnt they take people from the macbook(pro) team and put them on the iphone, so we could have leopard on time. Im sure many here would prefer leopard to an expensive flash based macbook
 
why didnt they take people from the macbook(pro) team and put them on the iphone, so we could have leopard on time. Im sure many here would prefer leopard to an expensive flash based macbook

Because software is harder to debug.
The iPhone is running a slimmed down version of OSX.
Which team knows more about slimming down OSX, the Laptop Hardware team or the OSX Team?
But that's a good question ac-mac, and one that may not be obvious to those that don't work in hardware/software.

On a side note: Contrary to some peoples portrayals, Apple actually has smart people running it, and if they are doing something that seems blatantly stupid, it is more often than not because you/we don't have all the facts. Let's all remember this :)


edit:
I just realized this is the subnotebook delayed forum, and not the OSX delayed forum. wtf people?
I don't care if they haven't got the kinks worked out on mars yet, can we just send all the people complaining about OSX there and have them figure it out?
 
why didnt they take people from the macbook(pro) team and put them on the iphone, so we could have leopard on time. Im sure many here would prefer leopard to an expensive flash based macbook

Because software is harder to debug.

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edit:
I just realized this is the subnotebook delayed forum, and not the OSX delayed forum. wtf people?

I think ac-mac was joking. Obviously the MacBook Pro team would require hardware and design engineers while Leopard and the iPhone OS requires software engineers.

-Clive
 
Umm, this is a thread about the SUBNOTEBOOK being delayed. The product we don't know exists.

We DO know that the Macbook Pro exists, and that a new chipset will be available for it really soon.

Therefore, this rumour has NOTHING to do with delayed Macbook Pros, and therefore anyone who was going to wait until WWDC in June to buy their MBP should continue to do so. A rumoured delay on a rumoured product that really has no connection with any of Apple's present lineup is not going to affect when real things, like the Macbook or Macbook Pro, will be released.

Geez...
 
Umm, this is a thread about the SUBNOTEBOOK being delayed. The product we don't know exists.

We DO know that the Macbook Pro exists, and that a new chipset will be available for it really soon.

Therefore, this rumour has NOTHING to do with delayed Macbook Pros, and therefore anyone who was going to wait until WWDC in June to buy their MBP should continue to do so. A rumoured delay on a rumoured product that really has no connection with any of Apple's present lineup is not going to affect when real things, like the Macbook or Macbook Pro, will be released.

Geez...

Don't worry, logic seems to lie just out of reach for the majority in this thread...
 
12 inch MBP to satisfy the masses?

What do you feel are the chances of a 12/13" MBP coming out in June or October with Leopard? With the >$2000 prices for subnotebooks on the market, I think I'd much rather pay around 1500-1700 for a smaller MBP. Maybe I'm just jealous of my girlfriend's 12 inch PB, but I'd rather see the MBP get smaller than a whole new line of ultraportables.
 
Your statement assumes that you revisit the same block every 4 GB - but in reality filesystems tend to have "hot spots" in the meta-data files.

Every time you create a file, you need to write to the space allocation bitmap and to the file header (and probably a file header allocation bitmap) and to the directory.

These hot spots are the problem, not the file data.

That shouldn't be a problem, because the wear levelling algorithms of the flash controller would take care of it.
 
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