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Wow. All those companies expecting slowdowns because of the iPhone.

I guess the world really DOES revolve around the iPhone, if an entire component industry rises and falls with the sales of the iPhone.

The entire component industry does not rise and fall with the sales of iPhones, just suppliers for the iPhone because Apple makes up 99% of their revenue.
 
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It's time for Apple to do something big. In the past few months I have seen people switch to Android that I never thought would switch. And I am now on the bubble. If the iPhone 7 doesn't impress it's going to really hurt Apple. Tim Cook needs to abandon his playing it safe method that he has gone with since day one and switch to more of a Steve Jobs method and take some risks. I miss the days where I was actually excited for new product announcements because there was always something exciting. I don't even watch the keynotes anymore. It's become and yearly cycle of slightly altering the design while slowly bumping up the specs while adding relatively nothing new.

lol. Putting out a carbon copy of the 6/6s isn't a risk? They moved the antenna bands!
 
I just don't see what Apple can do year after year to increase the number of people who want an iPhone every year. They might have made the 6S too good because honestly I'm very satisfied with this one and haven't really been following the iPhone 7 rumors as a result. No matter what they put out I think I'm going to just stay put.

They addressed the last major complaint of bigger screens with the 6/6 Plus and with those massive sales I figured they wouldn't quite be able to increase them again the following year.
 
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Useless.


And it's the ugliest phone in the market. Innovation doesn't include what the phone is made out of... That doesn't count, sorry.


Debatable.


That's because iOS is a feather-weight.


Again, debatable. iOS seems to be more buggy than ever.


You feel sorry for someone who probably bought a superior phone. When was the last time you even used an Android phone? 2008?

All these, classic troll responses... Bravo
 
Apple almost seems as if it is entering the position that Microsoft was in a decade or so ago. They were losing customers to Apple but had billions of dollars to weather the transition. It could be that Apple must sustain several years of stalled innovation and disconnection but hopefully like Microsoft they will recover, reinvent themselves and make compelling products again.
The thing is that there's no "Apple" company that they're losing customers to. For all the whining I see on this site I've yet to see anything innovative from the competitors either. Speaking strictly of smartphones, the industry seems to have become mature and companies are just tweaking their devices instead of making radical changes. Not to mention none of Apple's competitors have been able to actually challenge their dominance of the industry's profits. Other than Samsung, the rest barely break even, if that.

Reading some of these comments you'd almost think Apple is reporting losses or something.
 
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They'll be scrambling to keep up. Maybe people are buying every other one now. I know I am.
Maybe? This is something people have been doing for awhile now. I seem to know two camps here though: those who want the latest/greatest, then the slightly older generation who wouldn't give a rip about the newest technology/features (i.e. My mom).
 
Tim is at a critical point with his time at Apple. If he doesn't take risks over the next 12-24 months he going to find his time with Apple coming to an end as sales continue to drop.

Apple is building a car. This is pretty much the riskiest thing Apple has ever done. So I don't think we have to worry about Apple taking risks, they are doing that.

But Apple can't take risks with the iPhone. If the "real" 7 wasn't ready and they have to just do a second year of spec upgrades, then so be it. It can still be the biggest selling smartphone just on the basis of people buying as their 4, 5 and 6 iphones break and as Android users switch or have their own android phones break. The iPhone user base is so big now it doesn't even need the year to year upgrade folks. But it needs to have a new quality phone come out at least once a year and it can't have a phone that needs to get recalled or has some sort of fatal flaw.
 
Anyone remember the negative press for getting rid of the 30-pin connector? Getting rid of the headphone jack would cause far more negative press because it is the industry standard on absolutely everything. That alone could cause a significant fall in sales in my opinion.

If Apple gets rid of the headphone jack I will skip this iPhone.
 
I'm Apple's favorite customer. I'll never switch to another platform...ever and I mean that. Mac User since the late - 90s and my entire life is powered by iDevices from CarPlay, iOS, Apple Watch, multiple Macs, iTunes purchases and AppleTV.

So I legitimately am unaware that Apple is not catching up in the smartphone market. I've never even looked at a phone from another maker, not since I upgraded from my Palm Treo 650 to iPhone in 2007.

What is Apple behind on in innovation that others are doing? How much can you do to a phone these days that hasn't already been done? What is Samsung doing better? Why should I buy a non-Apple anything?

I think Apple's in a position where it's not just about outperforming other companies or things like that, but convincing existing customers to upgrade at the same or faster pace than before. I've noticed a lot less attention paid among regular joes to which iPhone people have, unlike 5 years ago where it really felt like you were missing out not to be as close to the newest model as humanly possible. This can be taken as a compliment that the devices aren't becoming obsolete, but from a business perspective they want to put that carrot out there to get people upgrading.
 
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There's only so many quantum leaps a device can make ... especially since the creation of the device in the first place was the true quantum leap. This idea that every year the phone has to invent some crazy new thing that no one has ever considered before is the ultimate in entitlement.

Not every year, every two years. But the real problem is that other handset manufacturers in fact do more than Apple does. Call it innovation, call it evolution or whatever you want. Apple is plain and simple looking like they don't even care. They seem arrogant. They think they can make whatever they want and people will throw money at them. Why is there a 16 Gig base model for gods sake? Why do I just have 5 Gigs of iCloud storage for my MacBook, my iPad and my iPhone? What happened with the Mac Pro? Why is the iPad Air 3 200 bucks more? Why did Apple make an overprised Netbook in pink? Because Tim and Jony and the people around them think it's still 2011 and they can get away with those things. They live in a bubble and nobody dares to tell them the truth.
 
haha, today has turned into THE DOOM OF APPLE RUMOURS day!!

1ST: Yet more confirmation this years iPhone will be hardly any different to last years, and the year before that. And this coming from the suppliers predicting no innovation, expecting low sales.

2ND: The rumour the 2017 iPhone will be so fantastically different NO ONE should buy an iPhone until that model is out!

3RD: Apple is going to ditch selling music on it's iTunes store, you'll have to stream it only, and in ONLY 2 years time!


Who knows? Maybe Tim Cook will walk on stage and copy what Samuel L Jackson's character 'Valentine' in Kingsman: The Secret Service said and announce in 2017 with this new iPhone you get, free calls, free text, free internet, forever!
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Apple Suppliers Project Weak Demand for iPhone 7, then some click baiters added "due to lack of innovation" to the end of it and called it a story. Did anyone consider that the reason the demand will be lower is because demand for the WHOLE INDUSTRY will be lower!?! Nope, it must be because there's not enough mega-pixels or RAM.

No, because Android sales are up by over 6% in all major markets in the last quarter, Apples loss is fast becoming there gain. So no the 'whole industry' is not lower in sales.

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Android-Share-Growth-is-Highest-in-EU5-in-Over-Two-Years
 
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Bring back free two-year upgrades and problem solved. Would be great if Apple could do this similar to Project Fi
 
I think they should just skip this year release, it seems it is going to be a huge failure already and they are basically telling everyone to just wait until 2017 instead.
 
The annual emptying of the hogwash tank has started... :D
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well, I guess I am keeping my 5S for another year. No worries, still working like a charm but Apple is sleeping on the wheel. I think they are focusing on too many things at the same time. Prioritize Mac, iOS devices and services. Car and Watch not so much....

I think you'll find that it works INFINITELY better than a charm; charms don't work, iPhones DO.
 
Well that's just a grand that's staying in my pocket for at least another year. Plus I'll have the iPhone with the separate 3.5mm headphone jack feature.
 
haha, today has turned into THE DOOM OF APPLE RUMOURS day!!

1ST: Yet more confirmation this years iPhone will be hardly any different to last years, and the year before that. And this coming from the suppliers predicting no innovation, expecting low sales.

2ND: The rumour the 2017 iPhone will be so fantastically different NO ONE should buy an iPhone until that model is out!

3RD: Apple is going to ditch selling music on it's iTunes store, you'll have to stream it only, and in ONLY 2 years time!


Who knows? Maybe Tim Cook will walk on stage and copy what Samuel L Jackson's character 'Valentine' in Kingsman: The Secret Service said and announce in 2017 with this new iPhone you get, free calls, free text, free internet, forever!
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No, because Android sales are up by over 6% in all major markets in the last quarter, Apples loss is fast becoming there gain. So no the 'whole industry' is not lower in sales.

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Android-Share-Growth-is-Highest-in-EU5-in-Over-Two-Years


"MacDoomers"?
 
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This whole BS MR article is just trolling (and I guess I'm biting).

The decline in sales on iPhones mid 2016 is because EVERYONE knows the 7 is right around the corner. Only people that must have a new phone ASAP are buying the 6s right now. Everyone else is waiting.

And nobody but a select few at Apple knows what the iPhone 7 will be like. To make some claim that there is an expected lack of new features on the 7 is malarkey.

But the article is discussing a projected decline in chip sales for the second half of 2016, ie chips that will be going into production soon for the iPhone 7.
 
i have my own prediction ...

Apple keeps up with the cosmic changes. like the all flat surface for an iPhone 7, and not very many major improvements, just to hang on for people to still buy...

Users would buy the next iPhone, but when they see other companies follow suit with their own design as good as Apple, they switch..... Then the next time we get an Apple iphone again because "no other company at that time does it", and the cycle keeps going.
 
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