A floating statement drawing a conclusion with no supporting data becomes an opinion.With CarPlay, upgrading for a larger/ better screen has lost some relevance.
A floating statement drawing a conclusion with no supporting data becomes an opinion.With CarPlay, upgrading for a larger/ better screen has lost some relevance.
Is anyone really surprised that people are upgrading less frequently? My previous employer supplied me with a new iPhone every year at it's release (we tested iPhone accessories)... I stopped upgrading at the 7 Plus, and have been using that model since it's release. It's worked fine and pretty much has met my needs since then... about the only complaint is the battery could be replaced at this point. This is the first year though since the 7 Plus that I've considered upgrading, and that's really more because I'd like to have the new upcoming camera...
That's not a conclusion that you can reach based on the data provided. It would be like saying Apple has over a billion active devices worldwide therefore they have over a billion users worldwide.
That's not a conclusion that you can reach based on the data provided. It would be like saying Apple has over a billion active devices worldwide therefore they have over a billion users worldwide.
Doesn't line up with any average iPhone user I've met. These people are far too busy to bother with even setting up a new phone with a different OS, not to mention acquiring the fluidity of accomplishing their daily uses. It's like pulling teeth just to get them to swap to a newer iPhone (the setup part); forget about setting up a new OS for them.For the average consumer:
1. iOS
2. Tight integration/sharing data between Apple iOS/macOS/watchOS/tvOS apps.
3. Outstanding premium devices that many millions of satisfied repeat customers are willing to open their wallets and purchase year after year after year.
4. Excellent and highly rated customer service.
5. Frequent software updates.
6. Apple placing high regard on privacy and security.
7. Various Apple services that work well with devices.
8. Apple Stores.
9. Relatively decent resale value.
That's just a few that quickly come to mind.
When the SE2 didn't materialize the iPhone choices became phablet A vs phablet B...all with no HP jack.
Apple's dumb decisions are catching up with them. The old Jobs comment that we the consumers don't know what we want until Apple shows us, was true when Apple was putting out truly innovative and revolutionary products. Those days are gone. Today it is we the consumers who know what WE want...and Apple can no longer smugly ignore us. And coming up with incremental versions that are functionally inferior to the last generation is just churn for the sake of churn and $$$. Unfortunately the tech industry is stuck with a business model where they can only survive if yesterday's products are thrown out every year or so and consumers are forced to "keep up or else"....
I have had my toaster for 30 years. Still works and does everything I need. Wasn't even tempted by a "smart toaster" (with USB port and trendy colors) that started talking to me as I walked by it...
Exactly, the lack of HP jack is the killer for me. When my iPhone 6 dies, I'll be changing to an Android. Not because I want to, but because there is so much high quality choice, and Apple's removal of functionality in their new phones rules them out.
For the average consumer:
1. iOS
2. Tight integration/sharing data between Apple iOS/macOS/watchOS/tvOS apps.
3. Outstanding premium devices that many millions of satisfied repeat customers are willing to open their wallets and purchase year after year after year.
4. Excellent and highly rated customer service.
5. Frequent software updates.
6. Apple placing high regard on privacy and security.
7. Various Apple services that work well with devices.
8. Apple Stores.
9. Relatively decent resale value.
That's just a few that quickly come to mind.
No surprise there. The Smartphone market is very mature. Growth will slow in cell phones while it continues to grow for wearables and tablets.
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Lack of headphone jack removes exactly no functionality.
And they all run Android, not an option for many. Specs are only part of the equation and iPhones have great specs.Gonna get even slower for Apple because of too much competition for the same specs at a lower price.
Yup. Staying with 8+ until thenI've been telling friends and family to wait until Qualcomm modems are back in iPhones next year to make a purchase.
Thank you! I was going to say pretty much the same thing if you had not beat me to it (I would have just listed "high regard on privacy" as my #1)For the average consumer:
1. iOS
2. Tight integration/sharing data between Apple iOS/macOS/watchOS/tvOS apps.
3. Outstanding premium devices that many millions of satisfied repeat customers are willing to open their wallets and purchase year after year after year.
4. Excellent and highly rated customer service.
5. Frequent software updates.
6. Apple placing high regard on privacy and security.
7. Various Apple services that work well with devices.
8. Apple Stores.
9. Relatively decent resale value.
That's just a few that quickly come to mind.
In a developed market like the US, this makes sense. Curiously, imo Apple should’ve focused in pushing people into the iPhone Upgrade Program instead of trade ins. Getting people to be in the iUP is the obvious step as that will ensure regular upgraders on a yearly basis.
And they all run Android, not an option for many. Specs are only part of the equation and iPhones have great specs.
Well, actually it's like I said. You can't draw that conclusion from the info provided. For your conclusion to be true, the phone to person ratio would have to be 1-to-1. The data doesn't imply that and you can't infer it on your own.Actually it is. CIRP's figures give the 193m iPhones a MASSIVE 69% share of the 278m active installed base of smartphones in the USA (as reported by NewZoo) and still growing.
I have nothing to do with what you think the media is doing. I'm just pointing at the error in the logic in your original comment.Not sure why the Media persists in trying to make what is amazingly good news for Apple sound bad?
In 2016 Apple reported 1 billion active devices. That's not iOS devices. That billion represents iPhone, iPad, Mac, iPod touch, Apple TV and Apple Watch. At that time Credit Suisse estimated that the average Apple customer owned 1.7 devices. That's close to 600 million users. We probably own more Apple devices per person today, so just guessing but I think that average probably went up. To get to the billion users against the 1.3 billion active devices, the average has to go down. I doubt it did.Oh, and Apple does have around a Billion active iOS users across considering there are around 1.3 billion active iOS devices worldwide.
Apple reported 782 million active iCloud users over 3 years ago and 885 million active iTunes/App Store users way back in Nov 2014. Asymco projected the latter figure would have passed 1 Billion active iTunes/App Store users by the start of 2015 and 1 Billion iCloud users by early 2017. And remember, a large proportion of those iTunes accounts are shared family accounts with the one credit card.
Oh, it's certainly a conclusion you one can reach based on the data provided (as the person you're replying to so aptly demonstrated), it's simply a wrong conclusion.That's not a conclusion that you can reach based on the data provided.
Majority of smartphone purchases in developed markets are through contracts, which is basically the same as leasing. iUP is the same, only it removes the carrier from the equation so customers deals directly with Apple for the hardware.Since when we need lease smartphone for god sake. I am still being amazed by how we love use credit for everything. This is how every household is so tied on debts and living pay cheque by pay cheque.
Advantage? There really isn't any financial advantage.Majority of smartphone purchases in developed markets are through contracts, which is basically the same as leasing. iUP is the same, only it removes the carrier from the equation so customers deals directly with Apple for the hardware.
Credit is useful when it is used wisely. With iUP, The iPhone XS 64GB is just $50 a month, including AppleCare plus. That’s just $600 after 12 months with 0% interest, and then you can upgrade to the latest iPhone then. Sounds like a better deal to me than paying $1k upfront for the same phone (not including AppleCare).
If you fail to see the advantage of those program, suits yourself. Keep paying Apple thousands of dollars upfront.
Well, actually it's like I said. You can't draw that conclusion from the info provided. For your conclusion to be true, the phone to person ratio would have to be 1-to-1. The data doesn't imply that and you can't infer it on your own.
In 2016 Apple reported 1 billion active devices. That's not iOS devices. That billion represents iPhone, iPad, Mac, iPod touch, Apple TV and Apple Watch. At that time Credit Suisse estimated that the average Apple customer owned 1.7 devices. That's close to 600 million users.
To get to the billion users against the 1.3 billion active devices, the average has to go down. I doubt it did.
Since when we need lease smartphone for god sake. I am still being amazed by how we love use credit for everything. This is how every household is so tied on debts and living pay cheque by pay cheque.
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Apparently it does for many. Android has more than 80% of market share. Maybe people in the North America are so obsessed with iPhone, but it is certainly not case outside of North America. Where what’s app and WeChat rules all.
My phone does not have the feature, but if it did it will be the first thing to disable/bypass. A passcode is more secure than a thumbprint or FaceID. Think about it for a minute!
Higher prices don’t justify upgrading. Wait till new tariffs are added and then wait till next quarter earnings come outConsidering that there is 327 million people in the US. 50 million are 11 years old or below (don't know many people who are buying phones for their 9 year old).… That means roughly 70% of the phone buying population in the US owns an iPhone. I don't think you can expect bigger increases after hitting that landmark.