Tarrifs baby watch out that notch will cost you 50 bucks more lol![]()
How surprising, that notch is so beautiful![]()
Tarrifs baby watch out that notch will cost you 50 bucks more lol![]()
How surprising, that notch is so beautiful![]()
Well you wont buy it but many others wood. Currently the cheapest iPhone xs on swappa is selling for $744. The average is over 800 though.There is no way I'd buy your $1000 iPhone after a year for that price - if I wanted a jackless phone with no touch id, I'd be better off getting a "new" unused one off the shelf for roughly the price you indicate. Apple's traditionally high resale values are disappearing, not only with the phones, but with Macs as well (portless, overheating issues, keyboard problems, etc.). It's taken about 5 years, but Apple's reputation is decidedly tarnished.
Their sure is!Stop devaluing the stock on iPhone assumptions. Their so much to apple than the iPhone itself .
I missed where you were talking about developing markets, however this makes your point makes even less sense lol.What you prefer doesn’t equal to market preference. Majority of smartphone purchases in developed markets are through contracts/leasing programs, thus back to my point of Apple should be pushing their iUP program. Your argument doesn’t change the fact of the market.
As for yourself, if spending $1k outright is an afterthought for you, it is hilarious that you’ll be penny pinching a year later trying to sell your phone. Plus you don’t have AppleCare coverage. For most consumers, the iUP is a no brainer, getting new iPhones every year for just a monthly payment.
Who said users don’t know the difference? Cars are a commodity also.Smart phones are becoming a commodity. When the user can't tell the difference then a commodity is created and the lowest cost provider wins.
Such rant for nothing. Go read my post and tell me where I said “developing”. Re read my post and stop embarrassing yourself.I missed where you were talking about developing markets, however this makes your point makes even less sense lol.
Are you from a developing market? Because I am so I have first hand experience.
1. Most developing markets dont have an Apple store, so how should they sign up for the iup program?
2. Many developing markets has tariffs on phones, so they wont be paying just $50 per month.
3. I can't speak for every developing country but the one I am from, majority do not purchase on lease or contracts because the prices are so jacked up. So please show me proof where this is a fact of the market.
4. If you think consumers in developing countries can't afford 1000 then why do you think they can afford 50 dollars every month which works out to be more expensive than buying outright?
5. Majority of consumers in developing countries hold on to their phones for MUCH longer. A 1000 XS they would keep for at least 2-3 years. However an XS in most developing countries wouldn't cost just 1000 dollars.
Back to my first point...how does Apple push their iup program when they dont have a store in these countries? Why do you think Apple does not have a store in most of these countries?
Stop devaluing the stock on iPhone assumptions. Their so much to apple than the iPhone itself .
Majority of smartphone purchases in developed markets are through contracts, which is basically the same as leasing. iUP is the same, only it removes the carrier from the equation so customers deals directly with Apple for the hardware.
Credit is useful when it is used wisely. With iUP, The iPhone XS 64GB is just $50 a month, including AppleCare plus. That’s just $600 after 12 months with 0% interest, and then you can upgrade to the latest iPhone then. Sounds like a better deal to me than paying $1k upfront for the same phone (not including AppleCare).
If you fail to see the advantage of those program, suits yourself. Keep paying Apple thousands of dollars upfront.
Some currencies have seen dramatic losses against the US dollar. Apple actually adjusted prices in some countries on certain models such that Apple is absorbing price increases due to foreign currency exchange rates, instead of passing them on to customers. Although that reduces profitability, it does increase unit salesThat may be the case in the US - outside the US, lower tier models have seen dramatic price hikes.
Is this sarcasm?
Apple relies on its iPhone and services for their greatest revenue. With all smartphone sale plateauing, Apple truly must come up with the "next best thing" to maintain long term revenue growth, not just rely on price increases.
Lmao why did I see developed first then see developing later.Such rant for nothing. Go read my post and tell me where I said “developing”. Re read my post and stop embarrassing yourself.
So (just to be clear) - investment houses are unhappy because Apple is "only" increasing sales by 12% (or whatever) on over 200M users in 2018, rather than 19% on 170M a year ago? Do they expect that Apple can keep increasing the user base at a ridiculous rate indefinitely or do they understand the law of large numbers?
(if the former, then perhaps they need to go back to high-school math...)
That’s your opinion and preference. Doesn’t change the fact of the market. In the US, for example, most smartphones are sold through carrier contracts and/or some type of leasing programs. That’s the fact of the market, and I believe this is my original point that since that’s the case, Apple should be pushing its iUP program further. Your insistence about your choice doesn’t really change the facts.Leasing is leasing. Using credit for something not necessary is not financially wise. People should realize one thing that by putting everything in credit is living beyond financial means. If someone cannot afford buying a thousand dollar iPhone upfront, then they should buy something less.
Only thing that should put on credit is something will appreciate in value, i.e house. I failed to understand why would anyone sign themselves up to bunch of loans that need to be repaid every month and put themselves into a situation for living pay by pay.
So it’s me twisting it despite you read my post wrong? Ok buddy, just stop it before you embarrass yourself further. Enough.Lmao why did I see developed first then see developing later.
Doesnt matter how you twist it, iup works out more expensive. That's why so much people are in debt. They look on the payments each month instead of the total price. Oh its just 400 a month for a BMW over 6 years?! I can afford that!
Their is no advantage other than convenience.
They already have, wearables. Apple Watch and AirPods already own a large chunk of the market and have a ton of potential. iPhone isn't going anywhere so they'll still see revenue there and obviously services has huge upside as well. It all works in conjunction.
They already have, wearables. Apple Watch and AirPods already own a large chunk of the market and have a ton of potential. iPhone isn't going anywhere so they'll still see revenue there and obviously services has huge upside as well. It all works in conjunction.
Android has "85.81%" market share iOS has "13.21%" you can bitch and moan about "who" makes the money (a stupid arguement because anyone including YOU can use Android in a product; you can't make an iOS product). Are you telling me Apple are happy with these numbers?
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/europe
Lmao when I said you twist it I meant no matter how you twist the iup program it's still more expensive. I read wrong when I thought you said developing.That’s your opinion and preference. Doesn’t change the fact of the market. In the US, for example, most smartphones are sold through carrier contracts and/or some type of leasing programs. That’s the fact of the market, and I believe this is my original point that since that’s the case, Apple should be pushing its iUP program further. Your insistence about your choice doesn’t really change the facts.
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So it’s me twisting it despite you read my post wrong? Ok buddy, just stop it before you embarrass yourself further. Enough.
The problem with the reliance on wearables as a secondary stream of income is their reliance on iPhone as the primary.
if iPhone user base drops (playing rhetorical here, this isn't true today), than the market for those wearables also declines.
While these wearables (Including HomePod in this) are making good mint now. They are still way to explicitly linked to the iPhone.
Where Apple has to venture to for the pundits to be more satisfied is more open platform options to sell goods/services to non-iPhone users.
much of Apple's initial iPhone sales practices were based on eco-system lock down and tie in. For a long time, the notion was that the services and integrations between iPhone, Mac, iPad were stand above anything else available. The only way to experience this was to go all-in with Apple.
As the markets matured, more and more other vendors are offering many of the same features and ecosystem compatibilities, without the lock-in.
I think Apple has started doing the right things and disentangling all of their services from iPhone directly. Things like AppleTV being available on 3rd party televisiions is the right move. The credit card and venturing into financial services with the backing of their wealth is a good move.
Jacking up the price of the iphone to sell less, but with higher profit? not a good long term move.
Yup. Despite how everybody thinks the Android OEMs are doing better, every single one of them want to be like Apple.I think Apple is very happy:
Statcounter reports that iOS has significantly higher usage share than Android in many developed nations around the world.
Countries where Apple’s iOS dominates Android by web share:
Japan: iOS = 72%. Android = 27%
Australia: iOS = 64%. Android = 36%
Canada: iOS = 64%. Android = 36%
Sweden: iOS = 63%. Android = 36%
Denmark: iOS = 62%. Android = 38%
USA: iOS = 58%. Android = 41%
UK: iOS = 55%. Android = 44%
Norway: iOS = 53%. Android = 47%
And a few other countries where iOS is very close to Android
Singapore: iOS = 45%. Android = 54%
Netherlands: iOS = 44%. Android = 55%
And China is right on the worldwide average for iOS web share – one reason why the glabal average for iOS is dragged down so far:
China: iOS = 27%. Android = 70%
However, more importantly Apple is in fact the dominant OS in all the metrics that actually matter worldwide.
Apple dominates the Business mobile and tablet markets to the tune of 72% - 82% worldwide for example.
iOS users generate an incredible 1,790% greater advertising ROI than Android users, the latter of whom actually lost money for advertisers according to Nanigans.
Google is reliant on the iOS platform for an amazing 75% of their mobile search revenue.
App Annie reports that Apple's iOS platform generates 90% greater 3rd party App Developer revenue than Android.
Apple's iOS platform generates 400% more e-commerce revenue for retailers in the US than the Android platform according to IBM and Adobe.
And that is not even considering Apple's revenue and profit share figures for every industry that they participate in.