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Apple's U.S. Mac Shipments Fall 7.5% as Overall PC Market Plunges 14% Year-Over-Year [Updated]
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Since they started at zero, they are growing
Question is how many they are selling.
Also, an alternative to buying an expensive "ultrabook" with only a 128GB SSD is to upgrade your current notebook with a bigger SSD.
It also looks like normal notebooks are also more expensive than before driven by the supply moving to more expensive "ultrabooks".
It also looks like normal notebooks are also more expensive than before driven by the supply moving to more expensive "ultrabooks".
This has probably been mentioned already since we're 10 pages deep into this thread, but what we're seeing right now is a big shift towards mobile devices for people who never really needed a full blown computer to begin with. If the only thing you want to do with your machine is post on Facebook, maybe write on a blog blog, or do some light text editing, why do you need a laptop? An iPad can do all those things in a nice, relatively inexpensive, couch comfortable package.
There will eventually come a point where tablets and phones start outselling laptops, but that doesn't mean they're dying a slow death. Rather, they'll become more specialized workhorse devices. If you want a machine that can do some heavy lifting, you'll use a laptop. For everything else, you'll use a tablet.
Yeah, but most people can drive reasonably well after just a couple of days training. It's not like she hasn't had a computer for several years now. It seems to me it's more like some people can't drive no matter how much instruction you give them. Their brains aren't wired for it or something. The same seems to be true for computers and other technical devices (even VCR clocks). I've seen 5 year old children handle a computer better.
Thus, my conclusion is that even Macs aren't to the point where it's the same as using a blender or basic TV remote. Microsoft and Apple want to know where to take their future GUIs? Make them so easy to use that even people like my mother can use the computer without issue and do it without intruding on the ability to run power software. Call it a "dumb mode" or something (e.g. no windows or scroll bars or any other fancy crap, just simple buttons for simple people, so-to-speak. There are a lot of older people like this that couldn't make any computer work. This is a largely untapped market. As easy as iOS devices are to use for you and me, they're apparently still too complex for the computer inept).
What constitutes super-crippled? Is it the faster processor, the fusion drive, the faster GPU, or the higher-quality screen?
This is incorrect. Doesn't matter if the tablet is a direct hardware replacement for traditional PCs. Instead you need to look at the actual usage pattern of PCs. That is, web browsing and email, 90% of the time. For that, you need nothing more than a tablet. The tablet is useful for 90% of the usage, where you might need a traditional PC for 10%.
No wonder the Surface is failing. It tries to be a direct PC replacement, when consumers don't use it that way.
Arguments like this don't make sense. Ipad has more people purchasing it than the Surface. That a product targets a "niche" market is just an excuse. Both target the tablet and arguably the entire PC market, let's be real.
You know what else had a niche market? The Edsel. It was a huge success amongst people who bought Edsels. 100% market share.
Why do you need to upgrade or repair a computer in this day and age of advanced CAE design? IF you're repairing your computer, it's a poor design.
Tinkerers don't rule the market. In fact they hold the market back, because if tinkerers and "power users" had their way, we'd have towers 2 feet high, 16 internal drive bays, 16 RAM slots, 16 expansion slots, a replaceable motherboard and power supply, cords everywhere to hook all the components together. And don't forget 4 fans and room to add a monster heat sink. I mean this stuff is 15 years ago.
why cater to them? Real progress is a machine that does things right the first time, is built right in the first place, doesn't make you manage everything, is dead quiet, is space-efficient so all that saved room can be used by things that matter like a big screen, and does everything you want FAST without hardware that's too fast for its own good and overheats.
This just like vintage cars. Old farts want the "old days" because they could actually stand in the engine bay and do work. Because those cars needed a crapload of work. OMG modern cars you can't work on them! How are you going to fix it??? Answer: if you need to fix your car, it's sh_tty.
The iMac is well known for emitting lots heat and someone here even measured the heat coming out of the new iMac vents at 115.
It looks "cool" but actuality is the opposite.
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LOL!!!!
Because computers never fail, especially Apple right?
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The iMac is well known for emitting lots heat and someone here even measured the heat coming out of the new iMac vents at 115.
It looks "cool" but actuality is the opposite.
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LOL!!!!
Because computers never fail, especially Apple right?
Not as much as my Windows PC. Not even once so far after a couple years. Windows PC, had the blue screen of death every month or so.
115 F? lol and on what planet is that considered "lots of heat"? 45C is plenty cool. Mine is running 90F at the moment.
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Sure it does. CAE is used to fit the parts together, test part stress, test layout/packaging, test heat distribution, test air flow... capabilities of CAE today greatly outshadow that of years ago. In other words, machines are much more reliable today because of CAE. And if they aren't, they're not keeping up with the competition.
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If it weren't for power users, we'd still be using single core machines with 256MB of ram, floppy disks, IDE hard drives, and dial up.
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Your flawed logic once again surfaces. Single core, 256 MB, floppy disks, IDE drives and dial up wouldn't run a modern browser like Chrome, hence no internet. It also wouldn't play music easily nor movies. Couldn't store many photos either with that IDE hard drive. Wouldn't run sh_(.
You want to think "power users" drive technology, well that's dead wrong. Consumers drive tech. Tech that serves their needs is successful on the market, tech that doesn't gets trashed. "power users" are usually hardcore tinkerers. Nothing wrong with that, but don't say you're a power user.
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Advanced internet browsers wouldn't even exist if technologically apathetic consumers dominated the market. Laptops with quad cores and 16 gigs of ram definitely wouldn't be accessible to the average joe either.
The gap between power users and run-of-the-mill consumers is rapidly closing with each generation. When I was a kid, only a small minority of home computer owners knew how to do simple upgrades. Now even a soccer mom is capable of watching a step-by-step video on her phone about upgrades and simple repairs. Computers are no longer rare and complicated devices for "nerds" and business people.
What? People who aren't tech dweebs drive the demand for good computers just as well as some greasy nerds do.
Cars are as advanced as they are now because people want something safe, fast, reliable, and with good mileage, not because they are car aficionados. The same is true of computers (and just about everything else).
What do you define as a "tech dweeb"?
The average joe installing a hard drive on his computer would have been considered a "tech dweeb" a decade ago. The average consumer is much more tech savvy nowadays.
I'm sure a frat guy that smashes beer cans with his head would consider us nerds.
You are not making any sense. Why would a soccer mom be willing to watch a video on adding memory or a HD? Don't you think she has better things to do like help her kids with homework and take them to... soccer?
Bottom line is real progress in technology is making it more useful, which does not include maintenance and repairability, to the average person. An iMac does that best at the moment.
Is there some reason you cannot converse without constant insults? Tech DWEEBS? GREASY Nerds? WTF is wrong with you?
I see a lot of terms like this and I can only conclude we have a new generation of 14-20 year olds on here who have about as much maturity as the leader of North Korea.
I pity the future.
Because it would take less time upgrading ram on an imac than hauling it into an Apple store. And learning how to upkeep your thousand dollar computer is more important than watching a daytime reality TV show.
You're not going to have major technological advancement without a few hiccups. There's a reason why Porsches require more maintenance than a tricycle. Planned obsoleteness is an ugly relic of the 90's.
There's always going to be a "home-/workstation" around.
It could be a desktop like the iMac/Mac Pro/Mac Mini or a combination of MBP/MBA + Apple Display.
The reason is why this would be, is the "human factor".
We are still the most productive on a desktop/notebook than on an iPad, partially because the first group is still more powerful than the latter group, but mostly because humans will always prefer more the typing on a physical keyboard instead of a touch screen AND we also have a preference to having the keyboard horizontal, while the screen is vertical.
You can't go against nature.
Maybe in the next upcoming years (+/- a decade or more), the tablets will surpase desktops and notebooks in computing power and storage, but then we would have iPad dockingstations connected to an Apple Display, keyboard and mouse.*
In the same that we nowadays connect an 11" MBA to a Apple Display.
*I expect in such a situation that the OS on an "iPad 15" could switch it's UI between "OSX-mode" and "iOS-mode" depending if it's docked or not.
Agreed! My 2008 iMac's glossy screen was one of the worst I've ever endured for longer spells of work. Awful glare! The iMac died after less than 3 years. I've since bought a Mini & a PC. Frankly, my current set-up with 2 matte monitors is the best I've had.
Re the "illusion" of thinness: VG point. Of no benefit at all on powerful desktops. But another factor for abandoning DVD slots is that Apple know that some Mac users are naturally averse to the idea of having more wires & external optical drives attached to their Macs. If only from an aesthetic angle. It doesn't bother me one iota, but it will do some Mac users. It's just another way that Apple hope to influence more people into ditching disk-based software to generate more income from their download App Store.
As others have pointed out, there's a world's difference between the storage capability of DVDs & the old floppy disks that Apple were first to abandon.
Add in the high price of iMacs, the lack of user RAM upgradability in the 21.5" iMacs &, all in all, I strongly expect iMac sales to fall even further. FWIW, I'd never buy another AIO from any company ever again, but that's me.
