But it is...
Buy an android phone with an unlocked boot loader and it is completely wide open.
You can even flash a custom rom without any of the google apps since you hate google so much.
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But it is...
Buy an android phone with an unlocked boot loader and it is completely wide open.
You can even flash a custom rom without any of the google apps since you hate google so much.
I fully disagree on the "much more stable" part of your comment. I can understand why apps crash on Android (different cpu's, memory configs, screen resolutions, software versions, ect) but it's mind boggling that Apple's own apps crashed on a regular basis which to me is unacceptable; especially when there's only a handful of devices to support. Not to mention apps in the App store crashing to the desktop or some apps not updated to take advantage of the 4" display. Stability was the reason for trying out the iPhone 5s but it failed miserably in my case. Maybe it's because I'm a power user.
When Apple updates the screen size again are we going to see apps for 3 display sizes (3.5", 4" and ?") in the Apple store? The idea of that put me over the edge. Apple needs to enforce that better. My only qualms about Android is that the latest version of Android is not running on all the flagships. But if you have a beef with software updates Google has the Nexus series.
At least, Apple can get a fix on the stability much quicker than Android world. There is no road blocks,i.e. carriers, OEM to get those fixes. iOS is always been much smoother OS than Android ever been.
You just identified Apple's primary weakness. With more desirable phones being released under $400 (Nexus 5, Moto G and the Moto X (up till midnight today) your going to start to see other OEM's battle to see who can make the best high-end phone at the cheapest cost. It's clear as day that Apple wants no part in this.
A 16gig Moto G cost only $199 and the only thing missing spec wise is a better camera and LTE. The iPhone 5c is over double the price of a unlocked Moto G. Heck, the cheapest iPod touch is more expensive than the Moto G. Apple rather sale high priced phones than bring more people over from Android. This will be Apple's downfall.
Why bother jailbreaking your Android phone (and break your Samsung warranty/risk bricking the thing) if it's so open?
Out of the box with no jailbreaks iOS does not have:
- Restrictions on updates based on manufacturers/carriers.
- Banners/ads.
- Annoying Google apps.
- System level tracking/cloud archiving of your user activity for Google's benefit.
Yes I can jailbreak an Android to get rid of all of these, but you're missing the point. Apple doesn't include these annoying, restrictive features. That's why I use an iPhone... the iPhone is more 'free' out of the box for my purposes.
Nope. Samsung "total" figure is for smartphone only. If you include feature phones that numbers are much higher.
40mil S4 sold in 6 months Apr-Sep 2013 (20mil per quarter). Don't forget those 6 months passed are "low" seasons. I bet it will hit more in Sep 2013 - Mar 2014 periods. Note3 was just launched and sold 5mil per month (15mil per quarter) which I think volume will go higher when it is more widely available worldwide.
Just Note3 + S4 give something like 35 mil per quarter. This number doesnt include outgoing high-ends like S3 and Note2.
For comparison Apple sold 33 mil phones (all model) the last reported quarter. If 60% of this is Ip5 then Apple "high" end makes up to 20mil.
Looking at it that way, Samsung sold TWICE as many high-end phones as apple. So this debunk the myth Samsung only has high volume because most phones sold are cheap crappy Android phone.
I think lots of members here will want to pull their hair out now after knowing this.
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-gala...-shin-insists-device-not-trouble-amid-slowing
http://www.intomobile.com/2013/10/31/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sales-hit-5-million-one-month/
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No... LG, Sony or whoever has won the rights in your country has the Nexus, and they have pre-installed their adware/restrictions on it (as the carrier will have done as well).
Actually there is a file system in iOS. It's like any other file system, Apple has unfortunately decided not to expose any part of it. Surely at least the user's home folder....
This used to be true... Android took hold of the market by producing low-end phones for budget users.
Now Samsung along sells significantly more of their flagship S4s than Apple does iPhones (combining all models). Look at global figures and the numbers only further prove this.
As an iPhone user I'm not uneasy about this. Apple's still making a lot of money and producing the gear that I personally find to be the most suitable for my needs. A lot of others are in this boat.
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Why Android users come to a forum for Apple fanatics and start fights is beyond me. I must note that I don't hang out at Android forums checking out their latest news/rumours/features and bringing up the fact I'm an Apple fan on those forums. If you're not employed by Google/Samsung then why would you bother? (And no don't flatter yourselves Fandroid w@nkers... I'm not claiming you are being paid to troll our Apple rumours site! You've just got waaaaay too much time on your hands).
You are absolutely correct because during my iPhone 5s ownership each update did fix issues without carrier intervention. But none of those updates fixed the Safari crashes which felt as if the phone was starving for more memory. Even iPad Airs were crashing the same way when I was doing research on iPad Air vs. retina iPad mini. And no amount of Apple updates will fix badly coded apps in the App store. That's the problem; I'm no programmer but I don't understand why some apps just do not work when 74% of the people are running the same OS. Take the Netgear app for instance. It worked just fine on my Android tablet but refused to work correctly on both my iPhone 5s and wife's iPhone 5. Look at the reviews. I learned that the term "it just works" does not apply to everything associated with iOS/iPhone.
Out of the box you have access to your iOS home folder. The only restriction is that you can't go any lower unless you jailbreak.
There are apps out there that let you access your home directory (without a jailbreak) in order to store personal files on your iPhone or manually copy photos/music...etc onto your PC/Mac.
Why no root access? Apple doesn't want people:
1) Messing with the system or hacking/customising lower level parts of the OS.
2) Hacking iOS/making viruses.
3) Pirating apps/cheating on scoreboards...etc.
As I've been saying... Android is the same. I see the worth in this (as do Apple/Google). Likely the only option for the foreseeable future will be to jailbreak if you want to mess around with things... a mobile phone virus could be much more dangerous than a PC virus given what a phone does. It is best that home users don't have access to things they will never need to access.
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True... 'it just works' unless you're severely handicapped or trolling (or both).
How so? What can't you do now that you could do before? I mean, I'm really not crazy about those crayonish icons etc., but ruining your experience...really?
Nope. Samsung "total" figure is for smartphone only. If you include feature phones that numbers are much higher.
Haha sorry I meant smartphones when I typed that but I forgot that dumb phones are even a business anymore with all the low end smartphone offerings possible.
Why would the launch quarter be low? As well, all the analysts seem to disagree and say that the S4 sales are sluggish and continuing downward, hence a slightly pushed forward S5 launch. There's no reason to think that the numbers will be better as time goes on.
You're saying that like the Note 3 sold 15 million per quarter. It "sold" 5 million in the first month (shipped to retailers, not necessarily sold to end users. Not saying reporting is any different than Apple so no need to start that argument!). That does not mean it is selling 5 million per month continuously.
For comparison Apple sold 33 mil phones (all model) the last reported quarter. If 60% of this is Ip5 then Apple "high" end makes up to 20mil.
Looking at it that way, Samsung sold TWICE as many high-end phones as apple. So this debunk the myth Samsung only has high volume because most phones sold are cheap crappy Android phone.
I think lots of members here will want to pull their hair out now after knowing this.
If Samsung sold 80 million phones in the previous quarter (complete estimate by analysts anyways) then the majority is likely from their lower-end offerings (not necessarily crappy cheap phones, just not their flagships) even with your very generous numbers for Samsung. I don't see any numbers refuting that.
In short, I'm not sure how you got to Samsung selling twice as many high-end phones with no actual factual data.
The only Nexus device that had preinstalled crapware was the Verizon Nexus from 2 years ago. The unlocked US version of the Nexus 5 is pure Google and can be operated on any US carrier (but Verizon) and is sold directly from Google that way. That phone is also bootloader unlockable and your free to add custom Android versions as you choose. Once the Android SDK is set up on your computer sending a simple command such as "fastboot oem unlock" from the command line will crack open the bootloader. Google does not prevent you from doing this on a Nexus device. To me that's not considered "jailbreaking" if the OEM allows you to do this. Only a moron can brick a Nexus device and it's super easy to return back to stock.
Not true. Race to the bottom has failed PC market. Dell is in trouble. HP is in trouble. Now, HTC is in trouble. Margin is essential to companies' survival. Andriod gave new life to Samsung, Motorola,etc. But, race to bottom is killing companies.
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Your point is universal to all platforms. Developers are human. I have had no Safari issues. Perhaps, it is the website you go to. I have had the springboard issue periodically. Apple is working hard with 7.1. I have the Netgear app, too. It works fine with my iPhone, iPad, etc. I had the netgear 802.11ac router.
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rooting via fastboot does not void warranty, I can tell you haven't really dealt with android phones because nobody calls it jailbreaking, it's known as rooting. Go read my previous post you ignored if you want a response to your regurgitation of your previous point.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18464039/
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Yea, I was saying it does exist
I would venture to guess that most people have no idea about software update and that it seldom enters the buying equation. The Moto X is an excellent phone too.
How did the race to the bottom for the PC market fail if Apple still has less than 12% of the PC market? Both Dell and HP sold more PC's than Apple if your talking about the PC market. Yes, their profits suck compared to Apple but remember that Apple still loses out on potential sales if the competition sales their model.
And here's the kicker. If all the PC manufactures in the world gave up making computers Apple would still not penetrate every household because their alienating people that can't afford them. If it wasn't for 2 year contracts bringing down the cost of iPhones Apple's market share would be much lower. For the Nexus 5 it would be a dumb move to get that phone on a 2 year contact.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1679873/
^^ I'll let you read through my posts including concrete work-life examples including screen shots. Come back to me with any questions. As long time iPhone user that has made the move to Android, I can say the above comments about being limited are real. YMMV depending on how you use your phone but from a power user of one in business, I can tell you first hand, iOS is limiting.
- I have a Note 3 and can tell you there's no Samsung/Google or Carrier banners all over my phone. Please share with me some screen shots as outside the AT&T boot up, there is none.
- App wise, iTunes may have more, but I have over 300 on my Note and only two of the nearly as many I had on my iPhone weren't available. Only two. The top 25 most gotta have ones I wanted there were none. Google Play has plenty and the myth of not must be around crappy apps no one wants or games or something of which I have zero use for.
- Update wise yes they are dependent on manufacturers keeping up, but many do and beyond 2 years which is a typical contract, who cares. Time for a new phone anyway. Even with my iP4s, I loved the phone but even with iOS7 running well on it, it's slow dated and not what I was looking to use for any longer.
- Can't speak to the virus or pirated issues. I've never encountered anything even remotely fishy. Again, mileage may vary for users, but I don't tread near shady apps or things that get bugs in them. Never have.
- Have yet to find one Android app that I'm interested in that I can't run.
- I am an avid user of Google Now, Google + and their services and if you've read through their privacy stuff and what not, they aren't collecting anything remotely concerning. They also Don't target me my data or my phone or life in any way with ads, etc....that's another myth. Again, please provide some screen shots if you have them. I don't see such things in any way.
What many are referring to by open is evident in my posts I linked to above. No kernals or techicals. Basic things like printing, file management, app management and freedom to choose. That is my opinion of being free or open. I get that you're talking technical stuff though.
Again, haven't seen such banners or what not at all. Perhaps it's in the apps I'm using vs. others. Even with iOS, I most always dropped a few bucks on an app over the free versions to ditch ads. Not sure if that's what you're referencing though.
^^ don't see it. Again, read through Googles privacy act. Data usage and tracking of habits and shopping, etc. is no different that what Grocery stores do when you use a frequent buyer card or what Credit Card Companies do when tracking your purchases, or what online retailers and many websites do when tracking you.
The OS copied? Really? Every revision of iOS integrates more of an Android look and now even behaviors. What's next larger screens?
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I'm in the same position as you and agree with much of what you've said. Both are decent OS systems and everyone's mileage will vary depending on their specific needs.
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My wife is the same way. She likes and appreciates the capabilities and advantages my Note 3 offers, but she's the first to say that she doesn't like computers and just wants to pick up her iPhone and do few cool and neat things but she won't put in the extra effort to do the advanced stuff. She has no interest and as you noted is willing to overlook the things that annoy her.
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Does it not cross your mind that people use both devices? That even though they have moved on from iOS that they still have an interest and their posts here aren't "trolling" but rather offering a viewpoint that while may contradict yours is still valid? Geesh....what gets me is comments like yours lead me to think unless someone is nodding in agreement like a lemming they aren't welcome here or anywhere. Life doesn't work that way.
You believe one analyst as the fact? If you just take launch quarter you are looking at 20-25 mil S4 sold. Common sense tells that if Samsung sold 40mil S4 (high ends) in 6months (25% of total volume with just 1 phone), then this ratio should be maintained over next period (with some variance). Otherwise it is just nonsense that in first 6 months Samsung sold lots of high ends and in the next 6 months suddenly it just sold only low-ends. This fact is backed up by the fact that samsung has reported sales volume/value has been growing at a rate faster than apple quarter by quarter.
Take last quarter Apple sales of 33mil of which 50% are high end Ip5 gives 16.5 mil. Just taking the S4 only which makes up 25% of samsung volume (i.e 20mil/80mil). Maybe be modest and add 10% as the rest like S4 active/note2/3, S3/Mega giving 35% ratio. That comes out to 29mil phone per quarter. That's already 1.75 times of apple high end.
So above calculation is definitely more realistic than your assertion and I quote:
"then the majority is likely from their lower-end offerings (not necessarily crappy cheap phones, just not their flagships)" .
Maybe the fact the apple is no longer the king of smartphones is just too painful for some apple fans to swallow.
http://macdailynews.com/2013/07/22/...f-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30/