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Are you guys investors and arguing numbers? I seriously doubt it. What impact does sales number have on your lives? I like A, and someone likes B. I don't care that they like something different. Samsung and Apple are not teams to cheer for. Do you go on TV forums and debate Samsung vs Sony? Mercedes vs BMW? Fruit Loops vs Golden Grahams? Go do something useful that will further your lives instead of cheering for non-existent teams.
 
Are you guys investors and arguing numbers? I seriously doubt it. What impact does sales number have on your lives? I like A, and someone likes B. I don't care that they like something different. Samsung and Apple are not teams to cheer for. Do you go on TV forums and debate Samsung vs Sony? Mercedes vs BMW? Fruit Loops vs Golden Grahams? Go do something useful that will further your lives instead of cheering for non-existent teams.
Yes go on to luxury4play.com and avsforum.com or supraforums.com
 
Only 40%?

That's funny because I see lots of iPhones and I've only seen two, count them, two non-iPhone smart phones. Android users must be ashamed of their toys and hiding them. :}

Probably because you live in the mountains of Vermont where they have no clue what an Android phone is? I see about 8 Android phones for every iPhone I see here in SoCal.

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That is because the screen size of the current flagship iPhone is always perfect. Do keep up.

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The people say otherwise. Who besides Apple makes a phone with a 4 inch display? Don't you think if it were the perfect size you would see...oh, I dunno...at least ONE more? :rolleyes:
 
Originally Posted by jayducharme View Post
iOS 7 has for the first time made me consider a different smartphone OS. I'm really frustrated with uncharacteristically unintuitive things like the new Calendar.

Go to Android or Windows and then perhaps you will learn what unintuitive actually means.

What? Android's Calender is clean and easy to use. Just select the tabs on the right and view away. Pretty easy. Landscape mode is slightly better for week view IMO.
 
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You just identified Apple's primary weakness. With more desirable phones being released under $400 (Nexus 5, Moto G and the Moto X (up till midnight today) your going to start to see other OEM's battle to see who can make the best high-end phone at the cheapest cost. It's clear as day that Apple wants no part in this.
A 16gig Moto G cost only $199 and the only thing missing spec wise is a better camera and LTE. The iPhone 5c is over double the price of a unlocked Moto G. Heck, the cheapest iPod touch is more expensive than the Moto G. Apple rather sale high priced phones than bring more people over from Android. This will be Apple's downfall.

Yes... Apple only sells expensive phones... but they sell a TON of them.

That doesn't sound like a "downfall" at all.
 
You will be back!

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We're talking premium smartphone sales. Not useless bricks.

The distant No. 1 factor for the difference between Apple's market share in the US and that in the world is that the US is almost exclusively a market with subsidized phones, while most of the other countries are not. Premium or non-premium is much less important in comparison.

In the US, Samsung Note III is $100 more expensive than iPhone 5s, but in most of the Asian countries, it is about $100 cheaper. The price difference between 5s and Galaxy S4 is even bigger. And, if you take into consideration all of the other mostly-not-on-subsidy brands like Nexus, Xiaomi, ZTE, etc., the marketshare difference between the subsidized market and non-subsidized market is even easier to understand.
 
iOS 7 has for the first time made me consider a different smartphone OS. I'm really frustrated with uncharacteristically unintuitive things like the new Calendar. And I figure if I'm going to get that frustrated, I might as well dive into a different technology. I'm hoping that iOS7 is simply exhibiting growing pains and that it'll all eventually get straightened out. But if it doesn't, there are more and more compelling alternatives out there for me to explore.

I don't get it. iOS 7 is bad, so you want to try iOS 7 level 2 (aka Android)?
 
In the US, Samsung Note III is $100 more expensive than iPhone 5s, but in most of the Asian countries, it is about $100 cheaper.

In Ohio AT&T shows full retail no contract iPhone 5s 32gb units for $749 and the 32gb Note 3 for $725. with a 2yr contract both are $299. :confused:


The price difference between 5s and Galaxy S4 is even bigger.

Again, AT&T Shows the iPhone 5s 16gb for S4 16gb at $649 full retail with no contract and the. That's the same price as the S4. :confused:
 
Where...... In the U.S. only? Set the comscore to World instead of U.S. and see what you get. Apple rules the U.S., not the world for handset sales. Samsung takes over that hands down.

Seriously, do you even live in the US?

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Probably because you live in the mountains of Vermont where they have no clue what an Android phone is? I see about 8 Android phones for every iPhone I see here in SoCal.

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The people say otherwise. Who besides Apple makes a phone with a 4 inch display? Don't you think if it were the perfect size you would see...oh, I dunno...at least ONE more? :rolleyes:

no, 4 inch is perfect.

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Probably because you live in the mountains of Vermont where they have no clue what an Android phone is? I see about 8 Android phones for every iPhone I see here in SoCal.

A. What do you think that Vermont has no Android users. Do they know something you don't know?

B. Do you really call where you live SoCal. Your town has got to have a name. Like Santa Ana. Come on fess up.
 
Probably because you live in the mountains of Vermont where they have no clue what an Android phone is? I see about 8 Android phones for every iPhone I see here in SoCal.

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The people say otherwise. Who besides Apple makes a phone with a 4 inch display? Don't you think if it were the perfect size you would see...oh, I dunno...at least ONE more? :rolleyes:
Samsung and HTC went out of there way to make a 4" flagship phone. They quickly found out it was not that easy. The HTC one mini does not even have NFC.
 
Samsung and HTC went out of there way to make a 4" flagship phone. They quickly found out it was not that easy. The HTC one mini does not even have NFC.

The HTC One mini is 4.3 inch, not 4 inch. Quite a difference. Besides, no one in their right mind would call the mini a "flagship" device, its a mid tier. As I said, Apple is the only manufacturer I know still making a 4 inch display.
 
The HTC One mini is 4.3 inch, not 4 inch. Quite a difference. Besides, no one in their right mind would call the mini a "flagship" device, its a mid tier. As I said, Apple is the only manufacturer I know still making a 4 inch display.

That's exactly my piont. It's not easy to get all that tech in to a 4" device
 
That's exactly my piont. It's not easy to get all that tech in to a 4" device

Well it's a good thing no one wants 4 inch phone then haha. Look at every poll asking what people want in the next iPhone on this forum and larger screen size is the number one thing by a large percentage in every single poll. No one wants 4 inch phone these days, people do far too much media consumption to have small screens.
 
Well it's a good thing no one wants 4 inch phone then haha. Look at every poll asking what people want in the next iPhone on this forum and larger screen size is the number one thing by a large percentage in every single poll. No one wants 4 inch phone these days, people do far too much media consumption to have small screens.
1000% not true. Studies show it's more natural to toggle between devices than having a all in one. Macrumors is not a reflection of the mobile industry
 
In Ohio AT&T shows full retail no contract iPhone 5s 32gb units for $749 and the 32gb Note 3 for $725. with a 2yr contract both are $299. :confused:




Again, AT&T Shows the iPhone 5s 16gb for S4 16gb at $649 full retail with no contract and the. That's the same price as the S4. :confused:

You seem to be intentionally mudding the thread. As I've pointed out before the sentence quoted by you, the US mArket is mostly a subsidized market, and now you are using the non-subsidized price in your arguments? REALLY? That's how you always discuss with others?!!!!!!

To rectify the only sentence you did stick with the topic, the normal price for Note III 16GB is already $299, with a two-year contract. At the same time, the normal subsidized price for a 16GB iPhone 5s is $199, instead.
 
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You seem to be intentionally mudding the thread. As I've pointed out before the sentence quoted by you, the US mArket is mostly a subsidized market, and now you are using the non-subsidized price in your arguments? REALLY? That's how you always discuss with others?!!!!!!

To rectify the only sentence you did stick with the topic, the normal price for Note III 16GB is already $299, with a two-year contract. At the same time, the normal subsidized price for a 16GB iPhone 5s is $199, instead.

Let's re-read your quote:

"In the US, Samsung Note III is $100 more expensive than iPhone 5s, but in most of the Asian countries, it is about $100 cheaper."

I replied and directly noted the above and how the first part is incorrect. How is that mudding the waters? I didn't expect that we needed to discuss subsidized pricing as even there it's not $100 more, but let's do that shall we......(see below) or just re-read MY post whereby I also noted that with a 2yr contract both are $299. (again, the Note 3 is NOT $100 higher)

To rectify the only sentence you did stick with the topic, the normal price for Note III 16GB is already $299, with a two-year contract. At the same time, the normal subsidized price for a 16GB iPhone 5s is $199, instead.

There is no 16GB Note 3, they start at 32GB thus if you want to compare it's price apples to apples, then price out the 32GB 5s. They are both $299 thus my point still stands, the Note 3 is NOT $100 more when the two models are correctly compared like for like. It's starting price may be more, but the fact remains you get a lot more that $100 and it goes well beyond the 16GB of storage.

I can appreciate the sassy reply but next but it only works when you get the facts correct and compare apples to apples. But to steal your quote, perhaps that's how you always discuss with others?!!!!!!

Thanks for playing.
 
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I'm watching NFL football tonight on NBC and Samsung and Microsoft devices are being pimped all over the place. And every other commercial is either for the Surface (it runs Office and has a "real" keyboard!) or Galaxy S4. Apple does pretty well considering how little they spend on advertising compared to their competitors.
 
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