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Well, given the cost of the PSVR and Oculus, etc I would say these are probably true given Apple will choose higher quality build partsDo we really know though? Or is just a rumour?
Well, given the cost of the PSVR and Oculus, etc I would say these are probably true given Apple will choose higher quality build partsDo we really know though? Or is just a rumour?
Yes, but the first gen iPhone already does most of what they say this headset can do. So, why do I need it?Most of these qualities and challenges were also shared by the first gen iPhone. I would rather withhold judgement until Apple actually shows it off.
While I see what you mean, it is different. Everybody was using mobile phones when the iPhone came out. that’s not the case with these glasses. But to your point, yes.So many people said that when the iPhone premiered
BROAD GENERAL CATEGORY DEVICE.I feel like 1-5 were all true of the original iPhone.
Re 6, all the info we have so far is that it's going to be very lightweight and have great AR passthrough...
Re 7, things will change, just like they did when the App Store was launched.
Everything we've heard so far is extremely positive imo, feature set sounds amazing!
Four members of the family cannot use a computer at the same time either, but they can take turns.Doubtful (for the foreseeable future). The price point is too high. $3K for a big screen TV that all four members of the family can watch is reasonable (although still expensive for most people). $12K for that same family of four to each have a headset is 0.1%er territory.
Yes, somehow it will become a more comfortable helmet with a small external battery for $3000Think you and most people are only wrong about one thing: the iPhone wasn't *the iPhone* as we know it at day one.
It was considered way too expensive, it lacked many important features, many people were very skeptical.
The only thing that worries me in this case is the rumoured skepticism inside of Apple.
All of the rest is stuff we've seen with most Apple new products:
- wearables, tablets and ultrabooks as we know them were all invented or reinvented by Apple. Competitors struggled just as much
- Apple's stuff is alway pricier
- Apple's first gen stuff rarely makes it clear where it's going
- Apple's first gen stuff is always expensive, then we get more popular cheaper models
Again, I'm quite worried too but I think we'll have to wait a couple more generations of this to understand if it's going to fail.
The headset is by definition a standalone device, not an accessory.BROAD GENERAL CATEGORY DEVICE.
This headset is AN ACCESSORY
You know exactly what I was referring to when I said computer. You're again being pedantic for the sake for arguing in favor of an immensely niche and expensive product.So a device that has all the compute on-board and can process, calculate, read/write data, display media, browse the internet, and so on - is somehow not a computer?
Can we be real for once?
Ok, I agree with you. I will bet my $1000 it isn't announced next week. Thank you for your insight. Ming Chi Kuo just doesn't understand the supply chain and/or have internal sources like you do.Those guys say EVERYTHING so they are always right and always wrong depending on which prognostication one re-checks later.
1980s PCs are the closest comparison you can make to this device lau9nching in 2023. Back then, PCs were immensely niche and expensive, and ridiculed for being just as useless (even if that wasn't true).You know exactly what I was referring to when I said computer. You're again being pedantic for the sake for arguing in favor of an immensely niche and expensive product.
I have an 86" TV I don't have to strap to my face I can watch comfortably on the couch and do all the others on my iPhone right in front of me.You keep saying GENERAL BROAD USE CASE IN ALL CAPS when you haven't even considered that VR/AR headsets also have GENERAL BROAD USE CASES. VR/AR is the next generation of computing, as anything you can do from a mobile device you can do on a HMD too. You can watch media, make calls, play games, do fitness, monitor health, browse the web, do work.
No, it really isn't.1980s PCs are the closest comparison you can make to this device launching in 2023.
They’re making a market.Is there even a big enough market for this? Seems like they're trying to be too ambitious for a niche market. A waste of time if you ask me.
That remains to be seen.They’re making a market.
I gotta wear glasses with my iPhone, too. Drat.So Jony Ive helped with this product
Another added expense for those who wear glasses.
And what would your comparison be then? Enlighten every engineer out there that has supposedly got this wrong?No, it really isn't.
Aside from your condescending tone, there isn't any comparable products out there as we have no idea exactly what Apple is going to present to us.And what would your comparison be then? Enlighten every engineer out there that has supposedly got this wrong?
The rumors were that you’re supposed to use AirPods Pro for the real immersive experience. The built-in speakers are probably just to have a basic default sound output.It has fab screen and many cameras but in description it just mentions left and right speakers hope they are good would like surround sound experience with movies
I meant for the industry as a whole. This is specifically about VR/MR.Aside from your condescending tone, there isn't any comparable products out there as we have no idea exactly what Apple is going to present to us.
For the rumored price this is going to be, it better have above average speakers.The rumors were that you’re supposed to use AirPods Pro for the real immersive experience. The built-in speakers are probably just to have a basic default sound output.
No.I meant for the industry as a whole. This is specifically about VR/MR.
There is no closer comparison than PCs, and given how 1977->1984 lead us to the Macintosh, and 2016->2023 will lead us to this headset, it makes complete sense to consider this headset launch as something akin to an early 1980s PC product, like the Lisa or Macintosh.
Well, it probably is a waste of time arguing against people who believe in falsehoods, that's true.