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sources, please.
according to 1stock1.com, aapl returned 5.42% gain in 2013 and 31% in 2012.

That's not the time frame I referenced. Since Apple's high point in 2012, Apple is down 20%. Google is up 70% since then, is at their all-time high, and still on the rise. I'm not saying the company or the products are better, but the stock IS performing much better. I was only responding to another poster who brought up stock price as evidence that a hardware model is better than ad sales model. Whereas the opposite could be inferred by that metric on its own.
 
Wow... typical Apple... what's next Apple? Not selling out your customers to NSA either?!
 
I wouldn't bring stock performance into the argument if you favor Apple:

2014 Year-to-date: Google +8.2%, Apple -2.3%
Since Sept, 2012: Google +70%, Apple -20%

Way to cherry pick your data to support your point. :rolleyes:

Here's another comparison:

Since Mar 2009: GOOG +367%, AAPL +644%

Not everyone is a short term investor. And not everyone made the bad decision to invest in Apple during the 2012 bubble.
 
It's amazing what a company can accomplish when they decide to profit off of hardware sales rather than ad sales. The stock is currently over $500 so I'd say they're doing rather well.

True, except for the fact that a single stock price says nothing about a company. ;)
 
? That is kinda off...google stock is over $1200

In the end it is only how much you pay and then later how much it is worth, not the per share price alone.

Of course Google stock has been great, but since this all depends on ad tracking and giveaway phones and subsidies for that..seems kind of precarious to me.
 
sources, please.
according to 1stock1.com, aapl returned 5.42% gain in 2013 and 31% in 2012.
http://www.1stock1.com/1stock1_148.htm

Yahoo Finance interactive charts, do a compare of AAPL and GOOG, will yield the values as stated by Mockenrue.

As someone who bought some AAPL stock at 700 in Sept 2012, I can fully attest it has not yet recovered from the slowing in growth, while GOOG continues to grow.

I still think Apple's policy is the correct one, though.
 
Exactly. Give me a choice, and I'll take a company that values my privacy over profit any day of the week.

And that's exactly what this is to Apple--they could give up consumer data to make more money. They haven't. Good on them.

This is also one of my primary reasons for liking Apple products.
I just hope that they never change this practice.
 
Also deny my data to the NSA please. I don't need anyone knowing how many times I listen to bieber or Madonna. :D
 
Good, the more advertisers whine about not being able to get your data, the better it is for us.

? That is kinda off...google stock is over $1200

Stock is not an accurate measure of anything except for how many greedy, rich, old white guys "like" your company.
 
I'm sure iAds would be more intrusive like Facebook/Google ads if Apple knew what to do with it. Apple Maps 2.0 lol
 
I work in digital advertising and I can tell you it's pretty frustrating when trying to put a mobile campaign together for a client and not being able to properly target users based on certain demographics. Its much harder to successfully target people who use Apple devices.
 
"First introduced in 2010, Apple's iAd has never enjoyed much success. The service was initially designed to help developers earn money on the iOS platform, but it failed to attract developer interest and thus never garnered a significant amount of revenue. "

Really? I thought that it failed to attract advertisers at what Apple wanted to charge AND how laborious the approval process was. I was always under the impression that developers LOVED the idea and some were (initially) making a nice nut but that decreased greatly with a lack of new ads coming in...
 
Way to cherry pick your data to support your point. :rolleyes:

Here's another comparison:

Since Mar 2009: GOOG +367%, AAPL +644%

Not everyone is a short term investor. And not everyone made the bad decision to invest in Apple during the 2012 bubble.

A fair point. I did cherry pick for emphasis, but recent stock trends favor Google. Would anyone dispute that? For what it's worth, I invested more in Apple than any other single company (and have owned almost no Google). If anything, I'm biased the other way. I fondly remember buying Apple at 80-90 in 2008. Unfortunately, I sold in 2010 (before the 2012 bubble). :(
 
Nice confirmation of why I feel a bit better about Apple having my usage data and why I do not use Facebook at all and use Google alternatives as much as possible (e.g. duckduckgo for search) .
 
I work in digital advertising and I can tell you it's pretty frustrating when trying to put a mobile campaign together for a client and not being able to properly target users based on certain demographics. Its much harder to successfully target people who use Apple devices.

As a Apple user, I think that's great. I value my privacy, the little that's left :(
 
For those looking at stock performance, look at 5 year and 10 year comparisons... timeframes that really weed out the short term "blips".

And even if you do care about stock performance, would you rather have a company whose stock valuation is lackluster, but based mostly on hardware sales? Or one that is skyrocketing, but is based solely on ad revenue from mining your personal info? Even thought that's not the case at all between these two, I'd take the former over the latter any day.

And I'm a fan of Google/Android, but love iOS / Apple products as well. Google's business model continually bothers me in the back of my mind, yet I still give in to it because of the conveniences it provides.
 
Apple may not be selling personal info on a large scale but it's not stopping them from EXCHANGING personal info on a large scale with other companies or entities as they see fit.
 
And this is why I love apple... I'll willingly pay Rs. 60,000/- for a 32 gb iPhone than pay Rs. 45,000:/ for the best android... Which (arguably) is te note 3 or the htc whatever...
 
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