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It has to be a hardware / software developers kit.... devs need to have it up t a year to get apps ready for launch. When Apple releases the final product, the cost will be a lot lower to consumers. It is possible Apple will release it within 6 months after WWDC? It's possible, but who knows?
 
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And to follow up on the previous post. A high cost would filter out all but the most serious devs. (a good thing) and not take up precious inventory (prob. very limited at launch) from people trying to make the next flappy bird gimmick.
 
Will it be only a stand alone device, or any chance it will also be capable of serving as a computer monitor? With that kind of VR display quality, I can see it being quite attractive for modeling work, but I can’t imagine the headset itself having the computing horsepower to do any sort of heavy duty modeling.
 
Quick thought. Just like the iPhone replaced the physical keyboard on mobile phones for the majority of people, could AR replace the physical screen.
 
If it can work as a highly portable 4K monitor, it would be worth more to me than a Pro Display XDR.
And as someone with presbyopia, the rumors referring to patents for automatic adjustments for vision correction are very intriguing.
 
Never taken off? Really?

"... The contract for over 120,000 headsets could be worth up to $21.88 billion over 10 years, a Microsoft spokesperson told CNBC. .."

Several billion in projected revenue is "a failed product line"?



Haven't got to point that joe buger flipper workers are getting them , but there is enough workers at $3K per device that it will amount to substantive market. At that price point porn isn't going to be the major driver.



P.S. Part of the reason VR has failed to get traction for so long is the preoccupation with games. And preconception of attaching the biggest "fire breathing dragon" GPU to the headset possible. ( as oppose to concentrating on things like foveated rendering... throwing out pixel rendering effort that nobody is ever going to see in detail. )
Not sure I would say a military contract means a product has taken off. It certainly would not mean a commercial success in the fact that the mainstream population is using the device.

I think VR has not really taken off because it is somewhat limited to VR and no one wants to be sitting in VR working for long periods of time. AR not the other hand has way more potential for daily life, both in work and home, this is what the military is using from Microsoft. AR is the future for the mainstream in my opinion, it will be like google glass though hopefully more refined and seamless with things like regular glasses, windshields on cars, visors in motorcycle helmets, etc.
 
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I'm willing to pay 3000$ if it really means that it gives me infinite screen space for my daily office work and if it's as subtle to wear as the AirPods Pro.
If the quality is as poor as on Airpods Pro I'll give it a miss. You need to be cleaning them constantly to get even average sound out of them. Most of the time one or the other distorts the hell out of everything. I've also got Jabra Elites and Plantronics 6200s, and I can honestly say I haven't touched Jabras or especially the airpods in the last few months at all. Got tired of the issues. Plantronics Just Works. And lasts easily more than a full work day even if you talk a lot.

Never been as disappointed in anything Apple has made than those pieces of garbage.
 
This is the biggest thing Apple have attempted since Steve Jobs.

First time firing up OSX was a wow moment, so was first iPod, iPhone and iPad.

This could be massive for Apple if it achieves that immediate ‘wow’ moment with VR/AR.
Considering everything other companies have already done with VR glasses Apple would have to come up with something ultra special to get even near the 'wow' zone. If it's yet another slightly improved version of what others have done at 2x to 15x price, forget it.

If the Amoled is just to be a circular screen around the 'eye' displays providing better peripheral vision experience, sorry but that's not worth the extra money for me. I'm sure there are plenty of fanboys who are willing to buy anything Apple puts out at any price, but lately I've seen very little worth buying. I used to buy every new iPhone version that came, now I'm down to upgrading when I really need to (read: when Apple updates render the battery/cpu unusable). Same with laptops and pretty much everything. Bought the first butterfly keyboard horror, had the keyboard replaced twice after which I sold it and got this 2019 16" one. I'd love to upgrade to a newer one but I see zero reason to. The prices just keep climbing to new sick heights and the little improvement they have added just doesn't justify paying for that. Not to mention the failure called Airpods Pro. AirTags seem to work well enough at this point, but we'll see what the actual battery life will be. Tried the new iPhone in the store, and I'm not buying one of those boxy ones unless I absolutely have to. I prefer rounded corners (read: comfort) in something I use on a daily basis. I guess they did the same with Apple Watch? Thank god I don't need to update that in the next few years. Form over function. X(*)
 
Judging from the low interest in this, I'm doubting the rumor. It also doesn't seem like a typical Apple market (well established, many existing users, network effects) so I think this is years off.
 
Judging from the low interest in this, I'm doubting the rumor. It also doesn't seem like a typical Apple market (well established, many existing users, network effects) so I think this is years off.

Low interest by who? Low interest by same crowd that isn't going to be a 16 core , 256GB RAM , 4TB Mac Pro? Didn't stop the Mac Pro 2019 from coming out.

Second issue is that Apple already been working on this basic product problem for 4-5 years. It has already been a long gestation period. There was a fancy unit with a base unit that the goggles were tethered to that reportedly Ive and some others 'killed' . (wasn't "Apple" enough. Probbably not keeping up with the 'war' on wires agenda. )

In terms of "I'd like a 3D content creation tool" that notion has rumbled around the Mac Pro forumrs and topics for 4-5 years. The ones who in that camp who equate gaming with 3D probably less so. Or the Nvidia fanboys where only "real" VR required an Nvidia card 2-3 years ago.


P.S. Wayback machine to early rumblings of Apple VR




etc. etc.
 
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Low interest by who? Low interest by same crowd that isn't going to be a 16 core , 256GB RAM , 4TB Mac Pro? Didn't stop the Mac Pro 2019 from coming out.

Low interest for a new product category. I'm skeptical that this is a mainstream category ready for primetime.

I'm aware that Apple has been developing prototypes for a long time. That doesn't mean much (like concept vehicles that never make it to the road, but even less investment). North/Thalmic was the closest I've seen to an interesting implementation/service but their product seemed to have been overhyped. Maybe it's famous last words, but I still don't see it for 2022 or even 2023.
 
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Hololens is $5k a device and over $100/month per user, so $3k is a bargain. The question is how it will connect with the internet, software integration and controls.

But yeah at that price point not gonna compete with VR and really isn’t supposed to
 
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Possible good news and confirmation that Apple isn't going to be over hyping and over selling VR like Facebook is.

You cannot wear these things and live in 'metaverse' all day. Anyone who says so is living in dreamland and doesn't know the difference between living in the real world and living in tech-utopian fantasies.


This whole metaverse concept is largely being pushed by scammers and people who want to profit from the hype and don't care about the mental and physical health impacts.

As we know, Facebook is the worst rated company in the world so they don't care about the ethics of their visions and the lies in their publicity campaigns.
 
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