Yeah, Apple would really need to change the game on VR and not solely relay on the Apple fanatics who buy anything with an Apple logo because it is the best one yet! I had the original Oculus that keeps me wired to my computer. The Quest 2 is what I really wanted but did not exist I as pre ordered my Oculus when it was announced. The Quest 2 is an amazing device, no computer needed, screens are good, tons of apps and the price is amazing for what you get. Considering you used to need a PC that was pretty heavily powered to it all being in the headset itself is pretty amazing. On top of that you can still get the power of your PC in the Quest 2 wirelessly connecting to your PC to get even better performance from high end VR games. Apple has to do someone no one has thought of yet or who has not had the 3 trillion dollars of cash to make happen. Not a lot of faith in Cook or the visionaries at Apple now, been pretty hum drum sine Jobs died, but I still do want to hope. I do know I won't be interested in spending a couple of thousand dollars on a VR set again when I can buy a Quest 2 or whatever comes next for a fraction of the cost.
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Apple's Upcoming AR/VR Headset to Feature Three Displays
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The consumer devices will follow - this sounds like a pro creator / developer device to me [I will get one for the studio to assist in our design work].
This VR headset if it ever comes to fruition is going to need a ton of promoting and we can rest assured that from now until it’s launch, there’s going to be countless “rumors” and “leaks” about the device (which aren’t actually secret leaks but planned marketing by Apple) to get people’s minds wrapped around the idea of an Apple VR headset. Most everyone except gamers don’t really understand what they’re for.
"Young suggests that the headset will cost several thousand dollars, which is in line with previous reports that have indicated a price of around $3,000." - I highly doubt the price. Apple is in the business of selling computing devices that are expensive, yet still mass market. There's no way there's a mass market - i.e. tens or even hundreds of millions of units - for a $3,000 device. Yes, Apple does sell more expensive devices (e.g. MP, MBP) - but those really don't contribute much to Apple's bottom line - and Tim Cook publicly said that he thinks AR is the next big thing for Apple. That means iPhone-like mass appeal. That means a much lower price than $3000.
That would be crrrrazy.
If I have to guess, I think the third display might be:
1. A display purely for the CG overlays, positioned below, on an angle, and mirrored up into view, maybe w a semi-transparent refractor of some sort
2. A wider, lower res display with some motion blur effects to smooth out the distance & peripheral view + give some real parallax effects, positioned behind the two smaller high pixel density lenses in front of each eye
3. One of the rumors intentially spread by Apple to identify a source of leaks
If they want to sell them as a premium experience product, but still actually sell some, I'd bet they'll want to stick to the $600-$1000 range. If they can put the spank on the other $1200+ headsets out there in terms of performance, they'll hoover up the $ out of the premium market. ...now if it's only compatible with games, and specifically games from the app store, and specifically games from the app store that have been written specifically for this headset, well then it joins the Apple TV.
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Third display is on the outside, giving you glanceable information you might want from the device without needing to put it on.
Could also show others important information about what the wearer is doing/experiencing that protects privacy and/or increases safety.
Could also show others important information about what the wearer is doing/experiencing that protects privacy and/or increases safety.
Customer #1?
He already has the antenna for connectivity.
And the hole in the middle is a new proprietary port from Apple called Apple Leaf.
Never taken off? Really?
"... The contract for over 120,000 headsets could be worth up to $21.88 billion over 10 years, a Microsoft spokesperson told CNBC. .."
Microsoft wins U.S. Army contract for augmented reality headsets, worth up to $21.9 billion over 10 years
The Army HoloLens deal comes a year and a half after Microsoft received a cloud contract from the Pentagon, which Amazon has been challenging in federal court.
Several billion in projected revenue is "a failed product line"?
Haven't got to point that joe buger flipper workers are getting them , but there is enough workers at $3K per device that it will amount to substantive market. At that price point porn isn't going to be the major driver.
P.S. Part of the reason VR has failed to get traction for so long is the preoccupation with games. And preconception of attaching the biggest "fire breathing dragon" GPU to the headset possible. ( as oppose to concentrating on things like foveated rendering... throwing out pixel rendering effort that nobody is ever going to see in detail. )
I was thinking something like this. The outside facing screen will display the portion of your face covered by the visor when you are in AR mode.
This way, people around you will be able to see your face through the visor just as well as you can see them through the visor, making the visor “transparent” from both the inside and the outside.
Never taken off? Really?
"... The contract for over 120,000 headsets could be worth up to $21.88 billion over 10 years, a Microsoft spokesperson told CNBC. .."
Microsoft wins U.S. Army contract for augmented reality headsets, worth up to $21.9 billion over 10 years
The Army HoloLens deal comes a year and a half after Microsoft received a cloud contract from the Pentagon, which Amazon has been challenging in federal court.www.cnbc.com
Several billion in projected revenue is "a failed product line"?
So that would be $182,000 per headset?
It seems $3000 is cheap then.
Given Apple's track record could be something as straight forward as the "touchbar" . ( left the MBP ... had to go somewhere.
). No physical buttons on the device and just touch controls to make adjustments to the "display OS" settings for stuff like WiFi , product software updates , DFU (device firmware upgrade) mode, sharing/coupling adjustments to Apple eco system devices, etc. ) Just control the goggles with 3D gestures isn't going to work so hot when the software is wedged somehow. A reset button with some magic push/press sequence. But Apple doesn't like putting control buttons on their monitors.
( If there are two SoCs inside the touchpad could be driver by something that is more stable that that running random apps and more frequent OS updates. )
The other quirky part is that they would likely want some cameras for "pass through" AR right where you are looking to draw fake eyeballs. If push the eyes to some other place on the face.... going to look weird to the outside observers; not "normalizing" eye-to-eye observations.
It is going down a rabbit-hole to put on some large goggles if the primary task doing is to interact with some human less than several feet/meters away from you in the same room . ( I know some folks send text messages to another person across the same room.... society wise that is about as warp from historical norms. )
That could be done with a simple white or green LED. Don't necessarily need a display for that. ( just a "you are on camera" indicator. )
You mean tons of free porn Internet ? Not really a huge foundational support for a $2-3K device.
The 3rd display rumor has been known for a while. I incorporated it into my mock up: VIEW mock up
I agree with many of you, likely an outside display for projecting eyes to make up for loss of eye contact.
I agree with many of you, likely an outside display for projecting eyes to make up for loss of eye contact.
One can only assume that the Apple Car will hit the market right after mankind has moved on to flying saucers.
Seriously though (and I apologize for my ignorance), aren’t VR headsets a fad from 5 years ago that didn’t catch on?
Seriously though (and I apologize for my ignorance), aren’t VR headsets a fad from 5 years ago that didn’t catch on?
An AMOLED screen doesn't have to be bigger than the size of an apple watch. Could be even smaller. As cool as it would be to allow others to view what you are seeing by putting the screen on the outside of the display, it's probably some tiny button that can change to show other info as needed. And Apple could be doing it as a way to gain another screen supplier for other projects in the future that would use bigger AMOLED screens.
so MSFT won a contract 9 months ago, when the technology was available for over a decade, and this is with the army, not consumer, not businesses.Never taken off? Really?
"... The contract for over 120,000 headsets could be worth up to $21.88 billion over 10 years, a Microsoft spokesperson told CNBC. .."
Microsoft wins U.S. Army contract for augmented reality headsets, worth up to $21.9 billion over 10 years
The Army HoloLens deal comes a year and a half after Microsoft received a cloud contract from the Pentagon, which Amazon has been challenging in federal court.
Several billion in projected revenue is "a failed product line"?
Haven't got to point that joe buger flipper workers are getting them , but there is enough workers at $3K per device that it will amount to substantive market. At that price point porn isn't going to be the major driver.
"projected" revenue means NOTHING, REPORTED revenue is what matters.
Most businesses are spending far less than $1k on computing equipment for their employees, now adding 3k for something new, is NOT going to drive huge sales, esp when most businesses don't even support Macs ...
I can see the potential, almost 20 years ago we evaluated a Xybernaut wearable computer for remote troubleshooting and training (in a high tech globally distributed manufacturing environment), it was really amazing, but at a 10k price point, not justifiable.
Anyway, let's see what Apple is really going to offer in this space ...