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I was video recording from my 7+ front camera of my friends X Face ID led flashing to see the frequency and its intensity.
I wonder if people will start experiencing eye fatigue or epileptic events from it?
 

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And after exactly 17,532 hours the iPhone will automatically throttle the camera by narrowing the aperture 25%, due to expected battery degradation.

That would be 15000 hours after Android phones which are essentially always throttled...
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I wouldn't mind just better batteries...

Everything wants that, and they also want to use their small pocket size devices as a computer/gps/camera/hotspot/AR scanner, etc all day long without charging, or charging in minutes (no matter what that does to the battery, and yes it does something too)...

Oh, and they also want miracles, lots and lots of miracles.

Just because iphones have the power of computer doesn't change the fact those battery only weight a few hundred grams and right now, they're limits on what the tech can do.

Lots of people are entitled twits about everything relating to battery.
When Apple gets into court and proves those twits phone have basically been saved by Apple's "throttling" (that mostly shows up in bursty tasks), they'll look like the true dolts they are.
 
One of the reasons I've stuck with my SE and not gone for a 6/6s/7/8/x is the curved sides that Apple seem to have gone with. Makes the phone resemble and function like a slippy bar of soap.

I much prefer the squared edges of my SE. Far more secure when gripping. And this would facilitate narrower bezels like the X too.. enabling you to securely hold the phone, but without covering the screen edges.

Pssst: Dont Drop The Soap! ;)

The SE has a much softer aluminum alloy than the 6S/7 when it does drop it'll be more than a scuff or chip of paint. I agree the 6-7 design is very slippery especially with dry skin on your hands.
 
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Just remove the camera bulge, make the iPhone slightly thicker and you'll have plenty of battery capacity available.
Smartphones are already thin enough, no need to make them thinner.
And the cover has some weight and thickness as well, so as long as you don't have the protruding camera and the materials are good enough to survive a drop you have no need for a cover, you save thickness and weight and you can put a bigger battery.

Smartphones are going to have even faster CPUs and will be used for more CPU bound apps like AR in the future, so for battery life to stay the same or to improve either they find a way to decrease CPU power consumption or they put bigger batteries.
Or we need a new technology to have more power in the same space, so a thin battery can last longer.

Bottom line: don't sacrifice user experience for the sake of a nicer design. It's a phone, now a jewel.
 
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"It's time to demand ability to swap out batteries and design for that"

Voting with your wallet is the best course of action to cause that to happen.

When you like iOS and the rest of the device... you are left little. Simply saying buy something else is not helpful or relevant to many people who want to stick with Apple and their great products... which are now confirmed as just mostly great. The battery issues have been terrible for years.

This is a wake up call
 
When you like iOS and the rest of the device... you are left little. Simply saying buy something else is not helpful or relevant to many people who want to stick with Apple and their great products... which are now confirmed as just mostly great. The battery issues have been terrible for years.

This is a wake up call

"Simply saying buy something else is not helpful or relevant to many people who want to stick with Apple and their great products..."

It is helpful. And for sure relevant. If you believe Apple is doing something nefarious or unethical, why in the world would you willingly continue to support the company by purchasing their products? That makes zero sense. We all make choices. And there are plenty of them out there.

Once more, vote wth your wallet.
 
I find it curious that good old Ming-Chi Kuo comes out with a prediction that Apple will increase the size of its batteries "for the sake of the camera" just days (hours???) after Apple basically admits that the battery it currently uses is too small for its current design. :rolleyes:
 
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That would be 15000 hours after Android phones which are essentially always throttled...
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Everything wants that, and they also want to use their small pocket size devices as a computer/gps/camera/hotspot/AR scanner, etc all day long without charging, or charging in minutes (no matter what that does to the battery, and yes it does something too)...

Oh, and they also want miracles, lots and lots of miracles.

Just because iphones have the power of computer doesn't change the fact those battery only weight a few hundred grams and right now, they're limits on what the tech can do.

Lots of people are entitled twits about everything relating to battery.
When Apple gets into court and proves those twits phone have basically been saved by Apple's "throttling" (that mostly shows up in bursty tasks), they'll look like the true dolts they are.

What Android phones are throttled? (just asking) I'm not aware of any.

What Apple needs to do is give the user the option of accepting throttling, or the option of having their battery replaced. I've already bought a new iPhone because my old iPhone was slowing down. Turns out, most likely that was due to the throttling. I'd much rather spend $70 than $400. And the comment on battery weight was really off. The design of the phone is what is at the root of this issue. Rather than design a phone with a better battery, or at least making it removable, they slow down your phone, which makes you think the phone needs to be replaced. I went to the Apple store and asked why my iPhone was slowing down. Nobody ever told me I had a degraded battery, or I would have paid to replace the battery, not the entire phone.
 
Read this article and I just return my iPhone X and will wait two years for the much improved 2019 iPhone models!
 
I'm all for larger batteries.
The battery fiasco also will force Apple to manage the voltage surges on the A12 better, and hoping we will get an even more power efficient SoC.

Now, I don't usually have much worries on the hardware come second generation/revision (the X being the first gen/rev). But iOS11 was such a mess at launch, I'm really wary of iOS12.
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Read this article and I just return my iPhone X and will wait two years for the much improved 2019 iPhone models!
That's assuming Apple will do a three-cycle pattern.
Personally, the 2018 models should be good, as the X is the first gen model. The 2018 model should be the "S" model, if Apple follows the previous tick-tock cycle.
 
I read that Apple won't accept people paying to have their battery replaced by Apple from folks on this site but it is hard to believe. If it is true, believe me that there are other businesses that will install a new battery for you and do it for less, as one poster wrote. Maybe, Apple is trying to save you money because they believe, based on their tests, your battery is fine. The haters would say something like, Apple doesn't make enough in profit to make it worth it from them. Apple doesn't want to cut into their margins if they don't have to.
Either way people, if you want a new battery in your phone there is someone out there happy to take your money and get that done for you.

That does not make sense, Apple themselves heavily discourage people from going to third party service vendors - there are horror stories of bricked Touch ID's and touchscreens because Apple failed to recognize some part as a genuine component. Also, who knows what kind of battery a third party will place, that maybe an even bigger hazard. I just can't understand why Apple will refuse to replace my battery when I offer to pay for it - its not like I am asking for anything free (unless Apple's real motivation was to force me to upgrade the phone itself)
 
That does not make sense, Apple themselves heavily discourage people from going to third party service vendors - there are horror stories of bricked Touch ID's and touchscreens because Apple failed to recognize some part as a genuine component. Also, who knows what kind of battery a third party will place, that maybe an even bigger hazard. I just can't understand why Apple will refuse to replace my battery when I offer to pay for it - its not like I am asking for anything free (unless Apple's real motivation was to force me to upgrade the phone itself)
Not true. There are certified Apple resellers who can replace parts. Specifically, we are talking about replacing a battery. Battery replacement could be a DIY task. There are many legit places that replace batteries. As for Apple heavily discouraging 3rd party repairs, that is not true either. The Apple Genius/tech gave me two different places I could go to repair my iMac that he/Apple said was outside their repair parameters.
 
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