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Yep. Just like iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, AirPods. Many people feel better after taking a swing at Apple proclaiming new products will flop. Vision Pro is no exception.
lol let's compare items that will be useful to billions of people to something that will be useful to a few million.

Facebook quest has sold 20 million units, of which only 8% get used with any regularity.

Few people are going to drop 3 grand on something with a high risk of being used once or twice and then never touched again. If this were $900 the story might be different.

That that almost no 3rd party developers want to touch this thing is just confirming the obvious.

Apple won't even recoup their investment.

Amazing that some people are furiously defending some corporation's product. And a product with a poor prognosis at that. Bet these same people think LK-99 is real

lmaooo
 
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I envision it in a bag… just like a laptop: pull it out when I want to do some computing, put it away when done. Instead of pull something out, set it on our lap, open it and get to work, it’s pull it out, slip it over our eyes and get to work. Instead of finish work, close the clamshell, put it back in laptop bag, it's finish work, slip it off my head and put it back in bag.

Welder slips their helmet over their face to do their job... but then OFF when their work is done. Skier/diver slips on their face gear to do the task and off when not doing the task. Cyclist wears their helmet while riding and then off when not riding. Sunglasses slip down to cover eyes when needed and then off when not needed. Fireman slips on the helmet to battle the fire but then it's off again when not doing their work. This should not be different.

I think too many of us seem to only be able to visualize this as permanently on our faces… that it must be on at all times. First, it apparently doesn’t have the battery life for that even if someone wanted to live in them. And second, even iPhone gets put away at times (and regularly)… so this seems likely to be in bag at least as much as a laptop is in bag now…which, even for hard workers, is likely MOST of every day.

In my own imagined use of it as potential laptop replacement, that’s exactly how I imagine it: in bag as much as laptops are now… out and in use much like one uses a laptop now… not 24/7/365 “We are the Borg” wear.

“Think different”
comparing protective gear to an AR headset.
 
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it’s almost like this is a dumb product that nobody wants or something 🤔
Too early to say. When devs were testing ARM processor software compatibility with the A12X based Mac mini DTK did anyone really have a crystal ball that predicted its acceptance compared to the intel processor based Macs?

This Vision Pro DTK is still very first gen so we have no idea how this technology will fare 3 years from now. Meaning another year before consumer initial release, and 2 years of hardware/software updates after that.;)
 
Too early to say. When devs were testing ARM processor software compatibility with the A12X based Mac mini DTK did anyone really have a crystal ball that predicted its acceptance compared to the intel processor based Macs?

This Vision Pro DTK is still very first gen so we have no idea how this technology will fare 3 years from now. Meaning another year before consumer initial release, and 2 years of hardware/software updates after that.;)
well if it’s a different product in 3 years that’s a different story, but what it is now is a dumb product that no one wants
 
I see people saying "People also thought iphone would also be a flop". I was there and this just isn't true. It was absolutely groundbreaking and glued everything together in a simple and intuitive way. There had been appstores and smartphones for years, but all of a sudden this device nailed it and left us all wondering why nobody else had thought of it. Steve Balmer was even expanding in to non touch screen phones from touch screen ones (that did seem insane to me at the time).
Maybe a future Vision Pro will be a must have but I don't know anybody who wants this though I know some must, but there just isn't the excitement about it and some are even hostile towards it - they don't want a future of hikikomori.
 
I see people saying "People also thought iphone would also be a flop". I was there and this just isn't true. It was absolutely groundbreaking and glued everything together in a simple and intuitive way. There had been appstores and smartphones for years, but all of a sudden this device nailed it and left us all wondering why nobody else had thought of it. Steve Balmer was even expanding in to non touch screen phones from touch screen ones (that did seem insane to me at the time).
Maybe a future Vision Pro will be a must have but I don't know anybody who wants this though I know some must, but there just isn't the excitement about it and some are even hostile towards it - they don't want a future of hikikomori.

Oh yeah did you read the 11 hilarious naysayers who criticized the first iPhone 10 years ago...

 
Grocery, I am a visual shopper, I have a very difficult time using the online shopping/pick up option and while I have a list, a number of the things I buy each week, while not impulse, are items I see and think, oh yea, I do need that. So will I be able to spatially walk my grocery store, picking the items I want along with my list items? Win for the grocery store as they pick up more "impulse" type purchases as they can still display that giant end cap of Hostess products they want to sell, win for me as I can still have the satisfaction of picking up the random items I want and pick up the next day at m scheduled time. The social aspect, if someone in my contact list is shopping at the same time they show up in the store and we can chit chat about the PTSA etc... The weird social aspect, I can sign up for Singles service and I will see other single people in the store who I might "Match" with.
 
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hahah, other boring word that we do hear very often from apple is ‘Pro’. Also, get rid of that.
Fair point about the necessity of usage of "Pro" with a product that does not have a well defined marketplace yet. It seems the Pro usage in this example is more akin to cost only then an ability over some comparable Apple product. Does that suggest that lower priced headset would be only called "Vision lite"? :eek:
 
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Fair point about the necessity of usage of "Pro" with a product that does not have a well defined marketplace yet. It seems the Pro usage in this example is more akin to cost only then an ability over some comparable Apple product. Does that suggest that lower priced headset would be only called "Vision lite"? :eek:
Whilst many find it annoying, the oft copied (across all sectors) ‘Pro’ naming scheme simply denotes machines that Apple feel are the top of their respective lines. Thats all. They’ve been doing it for years and years. It’s weird that some posters get upset by it, it’s simply a name, but there you have it.

With regards to what you’re suggesting, yes I think that that’s exactly the case - once the market and the ecosystem has been established (for Apples headset), then they will release lower tiered versions. What I imagine more, is that they will actually release higher tiered versions when the time is right, and demote this current pro version to become the standard version.
 
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