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Nobody thought iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch or AirPods would be a flop.

Again, don't re-write history. Even AFTER iPod was launched, Apple fans here ripped it as "too expensive", "we already have music in our Walkmans/Tape Decks/Mini Discs/various iPod-like devices/Etc", "Competitors already do everything this iPod does", "Apple has lost their minds", etc. And yet the multitudes bought anyway.

You should clearly recall how successful iPod was. IMO, iPod (not Mac) made modern Apple possible: iPod begat iPhone begat iPad begat Watch/Airpods/et all. If iPod flopped as bad as "the experts" around here then projected, Apple Inc might still be Apple Computer, probably striving to hold maybe 3% of the personal computer market in 2023... if Apple survived until 2023 at all. In my own case, "crazy high priced/nobody will want" iPod brought me to Apple, leading to laying down hundreds for that early iPod and $2999 for a (first) Mac in 200X dollars.

If you don't recall that "armchair genius" sentiment, have a look at one of the early launch threads to get a sense of Apple fan opinion about it (and does any of that sound familiar if applied to Vpro? One could almost copy & paste and change the name of the product). Those opinions were POST LAUNCH, when "we" could actually try iPod, use it, listen to it, etc... not 6+ months before launch when we still had little idea of what it is, what it could do, how it functioned in full, etc.

Before iPad launched, it was rumored to be $1000 and was viewed as "just a big iPod", "insanely priced", "nobody will want" and yet the multitudes bought anyway. Those threads are in abundance in history here too. Look 'em up and see for yourself.

Watch was viewed with contempt as rumors piled up that it was actually coming. "Why do I need a watch, when my phone can do everything it can on a bigger screen and my phone is always with me?" Etc.

AirPods embracing Bluetooth means loss in audio quality (and that's true), latency issues (and that's true), worries about battery drain when wanting to use it (and that's true), not easily shared with others when wanting to watch a movie together on the plane (and that's true), etc... and yet, the multitudes bought anyway.

Bigger than 3.5" and then bigger than 4" Phone screens? "Abominations", pants with bigger pockets, man purses, fragmentation, one handed use, etc. Now many of the same people that slung all that ridicule small-screen phones.

Apple Pay? "Why should I want NFC when the plastic in my wallet already works perfectly fine everywhere?" After Apple Pay was rolled out some of those same people were wanting to boycott any store that won't "let me pay with Apple Pay."

See any pattern here? Apple Fans seem to:
  • Hate stuff before it is actually available to buy,
  • Close to official launch, the hate moderates with lines like "it's starting to grow on me" and "I'll have to try one in the store"
  • At or shortly beyond launch, "shut up and take my money" and "how did we ever get by without this?"
It's the same EVERY time. What I think happens is that AFTER the brand new, next big thing is available, we get accustomed to all it can do and then we recall history differently: that each "next big thing" we now like/love was always great and always viewed as being able to do all of the things they do now. "We" seem to forget that while it was still vapor or barely better than vapor, many of "us" read rumors and viewed "change" with disgust/contempt/confusion/"why would anyone want?"/"99% don't want..."/"what can this do that my <existing tech> can't already do?"/etc.

Ahead of airplanes, mass sentiment was: "if God wanted Man to fly, he would have given us wings"

Ahead of the automobile, mass sentiment was: "Why do I need a dangerous/noisy/insanely-priced horseless carriage when I already own horses that can get me anywhere I need to go?"

In spite of so much MASS resistance to planes and cars, I'm glad their inventors pushed on anyway. Else, we would all rarely get to see much more of the world than where our horse or our own legs can carry us.

I do not see how people can compare this with any other Apple products.

That's easy. Start with armchair experts declaring a brand new kind of product useless, "nobody will want", "Apple has lost their minds", "what does it do that my existing stuff can't", "far too expensive", etc. as they did with EVERY brand new kind of product before it. There is an extraordinary comparison of collective pessimism BEFORE a brand new product is available for purchase prognosticating how it is DOA... just like all of the majors before it. And here we go again.

"Think different"
 
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Mass personal computing as a whole was fairly new to market at that time whereas today, apps are ubiquitous. Developers may be reluctant to risk their time, effort and cost to develop for an unproven platform with unknown ROI. Only consumer acceptance and positive unit sales will help spur this on in time. Perhaps Apple could sweeten the deal by providing unique financial incentives to developers to help broaden appeal and willingness to jump in.

Mass personal computing as a whole was fairly new to market at that time whereas today, apps are ubiquitous. Developers may be reluctant to risk their time, effort and cost to develop for an unproven platform with unknown ROI. Only consumer acceptance and positive unit sales will help spur this on in time. Perhaps Apple could sweeten the deal by providing unique financial incentives to developers to help broaden appeal and willingness to jump in.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I'm 58 and been using Apple stuff since '91. That early fascination with all things Apple is definitely wearing off for me and it's become simply a way to get things done. I don't crave the next upgrade or device like I used to, and part of me would gladly say goodbye to all of it if I could. I hear there is a trend among young people who are ditching smartphones for flip phones in an effort to become less shackled to technology. I don't know if this trend will grow, but as amazing as VisionPro seems to be as a tech gadget, it certainly moves more in the direction of isolation from the real world—something a good many people might ultimately reject.
 
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That’s the thing people are missing the long terms benefits and what this will lead to. Eventually this tech is what will go a long way to replacing phones in the end. Vision pro is just the start of the future of tech. I don’t think this headset is meant to be bought for most people at gen 1 when it costs 3500. A cheaper model for 1500? Sure people will have interest and buy it maybe. It will take a while before this becomes normal.

Social wise I don’t see this as any different to when families are at home sitting on their phone or tablets and often with headphones on watching youtube/films while others are watching TV. It will be similar just more obvious. This type of usage is very common and normal with the younger generation these days.

That said no people won’t be spending money on this unless people are massive apple fans but it’s the long terms development is what makes this interesting and why the tech and whats behind it will not flop. This is just the start of making this a do it all device for people in the future. I don't think anybody should judge it on being a flop based on gen 1 sales.
That's where I am on this. Personally...I don't want this product at all. I have zero interest in it as it is now. I wasn't one of those people who was interested, but then lost interest when the price was announced. I wasn't even interested when it was announced. (Heck, I didn't really even pay attention to that part of the keynote. I almost turned it off. The software update features were far more interesting to me, and it's not really even a big year for that)! What it (hopefully) leads to though...THAT is where my interest comes in. If/when it gets to the point where it's basically the same size as a pair of glasses...sign me up!

Vision Pro is the "ehh no thanks" that HAS to come now, because what I'm picturing in my mind won't happen without it.
 
That's where I am on this. Personally...I don't want this product at all. I have zero interest in it as it is now. I wasn't one of those people who was interested, but then lost interest when the price was announced. I wasn't even interested when it was announced. (Heck, I didn't really even pay attention to that part of the keynote. I almost turned it off. The software update features were far more interesting to me, and it's not really even a big year for that)! What it (hopefully) leads to though...THAT is where my interest comes in. If/when it gets to the point where it's basically the same size as a pair of glasses...sign me up!

Vision Pro is the "ehh no thanks" that HAS to come now, because what I'm picturing in my mind won't happen without it.
I was one who enjoyed the presentation and was wowed by it and thought of lots of things (from perspective of a geologist and paleontologist - but thats a niche for sure LOL) and not having room or money for a TV home theatre that part was interesting. But yeah price is issue, and that was disappointing just like the crowds reaction to it LOL. And it does not work for socialization in its present form for sure. So although initially interested I am probably gonna take a wait and see though 2024 and tinker with trying to make some apps of interest to me as a geologist and paleontologyist on the SDK simulator but that may be about it.
 
People won't want to wear glasses either. If you already wear glasses are you then expected to pay extra for the prescription lenses you need like you are expected to do with the Vision Pro? Apple is out of its mind if they think people are going to pony up for this stuff.
Of course they will.
 
I was one who enjoyed the presentation and was wowed by it and thought of lots of things (from perspective of a geologist and paleontologist - but thats a niche for sure LOL) and not having room or money for a TV home theatre that part was interesting. But yeah price is issue, and that was disappointing just like the crowds reaction to it LOL. And it does not work for socialization in its present form for sure. So although initially interested I am probably gonna take a wait and see though 2024 and tinker with trying to make some apps of interest to me as a geologist and paleontologyist on the SDK simulator but that may be about it.
Haha I don't even remember if it was in the keynote or if it was just something that popped into my head...but healthcare. On one hand, I could think of some use cases . On the other hand...there is absolutely no chance in **** that I would EVER be allowed to wear this thing at work 😂😂😂

You mention paleontology...I could imagine people coming up with some pretty cool ideas for that!

Vision Pro is a tough one because I think it's difficult to look at what it could be when you're looking at what it IS, currently, and thinking "ehh". I have an image in my head for what this could be (and what I hope it'll be) in the future, but if interest in this remains low, I think it'll be tough to get it to that point.
 
I was one who enjoyed the presentation and was wowed by it and thought of lots of things (from perspective of a geologist and paleontologist - but thats a niche for sure LOL) and not having room or money for a TV home theatre that part was interesting. But yeah price is issue, and that was disappointing just like the crowds reaction to it LOL. And it does not work for socialization in its present form for sure. So although initially interested I am probably gonna take a wait and see though 2024 and tinker with trying to make some apps of interest to me as a geologist and paleontologyist on the SDK simulator but that may be about it.
That is also my pov.
A lot of wow moments, some unseen sinve SJs era.
The price, general use cases combined with the device bulk and in my particular case some doubts about the eye prescription issue and more important not in the US will mean wait and see.
Apple will certainly iterate and the Watch shows how to make something out a meh launch.
 
The thing is, there are people at Apple who understand the power of convenience very well. It’s why the iPod succeeded against the Walkman—why would you carry around 100’s of CDs when you could have all of that on your iPod?

Convenience though is one thing I do not see the Vision Pro offering. It’s a bulky thing, with a separate battery pack, you need to put it on, you need to log into it, and then it only works for two hours.

That’s nothing like an iPad, which you just pick up and use and works all day. It’s nothing like a desk with a Mac, which you just sit down at, log in and have unlimited uptime.
 
You plug it in and have use for as long as you want continuously.


Apple’s Vision Pro headset is making it into the hands of more testers following its announcement, but according to reports early reactions are underwhelming, with some users reporting that it's not comfortable to wear for long periods.
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How can you wear it as long as you want, when it's already described as not comfortable? :rolleyes:
 
Again, don't re-write history. Even AFTER iPod was launched, Apple fans here ripped it as "too expensive", "we already have music in our Walkmans/Tape Decks/Mini Discs/various iPod-like devices/Etc", "Competitors already do everything this iPod does", "Apple has lost their minds", etc. And yet the multitudes bought anyway.

You should clearly recall how successful iPod was. IMO, iPod (not Mac) made modern Apple possible: iPod begat iPhone begat iPad begat Watch/Airpods/et all. If iPod flopped as bad as "the experts" around here then projected, Apple Inc might still be Apple Computer, probably striving to hold maybe 3% of the personal computer market in 2023... if Apple survived until 2023 at all. In my own case, "crazy high priced/nobody will want" iPod brought me to Apple, leading to laying down hundreds for that early iPod and $2999 for a (first) Mac in 200X dollars.

If you don't recall that "armchair genius" sentiment, have a look at one of the early launch threads to get a sense of Apple fan opinion about it (and does any of that sound familiar if applied to Vpro? One could almost copy & paste and change the name of the product). Those opinions were POST LAUNCH, when "we" could actually try iPod, use it, listen to it, etc... not 6+ months before launch when we still had little idea of what it is, what it could do, how it functioned in full, etc.

Before iPad launched, it was rumored to be $1000 and was viewed as "just a big iPod", "insanely priced", "nobody will want" and yet the multitudes bought anyway. Those threads are in abundance in history here too. Look 'em up and see for yourself.

Watch was viewed with contempt as rumors piled up that it was actually coming. "Why do I need a watch, when my phone can do everything it can on a bigger screen and my phone is always with me?" Etc.

AirPods embracing Bluetooth means loss in audio quality (and that's true), latency issues (and that's true), worries about battery drain when wanting to use it (and that's true), not easily shared with others when wanting to watch a movie together on the plane (and that's true), etc... and yet, the multitudes bought anyway.

Bigger than 3.5" and then bigger than 4" Phone screens? "Abominations", pants with bigger pockets, man purses, fragmentation, one handed use, etc. Now many of the same people that slung all that ridicule small-screen phones.

Apple Pay? "Why should I want NFC when the plastic in my wallet already works perfectly fine everywhere?" After Apple Pay was rolled out some of those same people were wanting to boycott any store that won't "let me pay with Apple Pay."

See any pattern here? Apple Fans seem to:
  • Hate stuff before it is actually available to buy,
  • Close to official launch, the hate moderates with lines like "it's starting to grow on me" and "I'll have to try one in the store"
  • At or shortly beyond launch, "shut up and take my money" and "how did we ever get by without this?"
It's the same EVERY time. What I think happens is that AFTER the brand new, next big thing is available, we get accustomed to all it can do and then we recall history differently: that each "next big thing" we now like/love was always great and always viewed as being able to do all of the things they do now. "We" seem to forget that while it was still vapor or barely better than vapor, many of "us" read rumors and viewed "change" with disgust/contempt/confusion/"why would anyone want?"/"99% don't want..."/"what can this do that my <existing tech> can't already do?"/etc.

Ahead of airplanes, mass sentiment was: "if God wanted Man to fly, he would have given us wings"

Ahead of the automobile, mass sentiment was: "Why do I need a dangerous/noisy/insanely-priced horseless carriage when I already own horses that can get me anywhere I need to go?"

In spite of so much MASS resistance to planes and cars, I'm glad their inventors pushed on anyway. Else, we would all rarely get to see much more of the world than where our horse or our own legs can carry us.



That's easy. Start with armchair experts declaring a brand new kind of product useless, "nobody will want", "Apple has lost their minds", "what does it do that my existing stuff can't", "far too expensive", etc. as they did with EVERY brand new kind of product before it. There is an extraordinary comparison of collective pessimism BEFORE a brand new product is available for purchase prognosticating how it is DOA... just like all of the majors before it. And here we go again.

"Think different"
You are confusing having concerns with legitimately equating that to "THIS WILL FLOP!!!!". Nobody said any of these devices would flop. I have used Windows XP tablet edition tablets before the iPad was announced. Tablets were not a new market and it would "flop". It was started out for the early adopters, like EVERYTHING and then the price went down. Bottom line this VR/AR market is not new and even with the core gamer crowd that would thrive with it is a very big struggle to get off the ground.

Every one of those products can equal 5 seconds of use. The Vision Pro cannot do this. I can have my watch on at all times, glance at a notification for 5 seconds. Have my phone in my pocket and just click next to play the next song 5 seconds, I don't need EXTREME AUDIO QUALITY while I am on a run and AirPods lets me do this without having a cable that kept getting caught on my arm and damaging my older phone because it fell on the ground.
 

Apple’s Vision Pro headset is making it into the hands of more testers following its announcement, but according to reports early reactions are underwhelming, with some users reporting that it's not comfortable to wear for long periods.
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How can you wear it as long as you want, when it's already described as not comfortable? :rolleyes:

Depends as it’s said there will be a band that helps with weight

Odd really as all the people who tried it seemed to love it.
 
Depends as it’s said there will be a band that helps with weight

Odd really as all the people who tried it seemed to love it.
Experiences shared from devs at WWDC. So possibly before it ships they will lighten the device somewhat from its current DTK form? :cool:
Reference

Apple has focused on comfort for the Apple Vision Pro. Most early reviews have reaffirmed that the Vision Pro headset remained comfortable to wear for a good half hour at least (that’s how long most people outside of Apple have used it so far).

Ben Sin from XDA said the following:
The Vision Pro did feel a bit heavy on my head. Apple declined to reveal its official weight, but I’d say it’s at least 1.5 pounds. It’s not heavy enough for me to say it’s uncomfortable to wear, but it’s not exactly comfortable, either. However, I do think I could get used to the weight if I sat back while leaning on a pillow or cushion behind my head.
Marques Brownlee, aka MKBHD, said the following:
This is a pretty heavy VR headset, kind of the same way that AirPods Max, Apple’s metal headphones, are heavier than most plastic headphones. There’s a reason why most other VR headsets are just plastic. It’s not because that’s cheap, it’s because it’s lightweight. It’s fatiguing to have a heavy thing on your head. And this is a headset made of metal and glass, it’s heavy. Now it is also super well built, like there is no arguing that. But I do wonder about using it for longer than the half hour that I did. I wonder if it would be more fatiguing to my head.
 
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I was addressing the issue raised about only being able to use it for 2 hours due to the limitations of the battery pack. And still, as I said, you can plug it in and use it as long as you want. Which is true.

Gurman's report of Users finding it uncomfortable after 2 hours is couched in his comments that Apple is still working on many aspects of the device. Do you really think Apple isn't concerned about comfort, and that they won't do more to make it more comfortable? Again, this device is still at least 6 months out, and they have thousands of employees (according to Gurman) working to improve the device.

But even if some say it's uncomfortable after 2 hours, I'm still interested, and will most likely still buy. As will many others.

People doubt this product but will sale out
 
Experiences shared from devs at WWDC. So possibly before it ships they will lighten the device somewhat from its current DTK form? :cool:
Reference



Ben Sin from XDA said the following:

Marques Brownlee, aka MKBHD, said the following:

To be fair think them announcing it so far away from launch I imagine there’s plenty of things they are working on and will introduce when it’s in the public’s hands.
 
You are confusing having concerns with legitimately equating that to "THIS WILL FLOP!!!!". Nobody said any of these devices would flop. I have used Windows XP tablet edition tablets before the iPad was announced. Tablets were not a new market and it would "flop". It was started out for the early adopters, like EVERYTHING and then the price went down. Bottom line this VR/AR market is not new and even with the core gamer crowd that would thrive with it is a very big struggle to get off the ground.

Every one of those products can equal 5 seconds of use. The Vision Pro cannot do this. I can have my watch on at all times, glance at a notification for 5 seconds. Have my phone in my pocket and just click next to play the next song 5 seconds, I don't need EXTREME AUDIO QUALITY while I am on a run and AirPods lets me do this without having a cable that kept getting caught on my arm and damaging my older phone because it fell on the ground.

Did you click the link into that iPod launch thread? It is full of equating the new iPod with the Mac Cube: doomed, flop, failure, will not sell, why would anyone want, price is too high etc.

Again, I appreciate that you don't like or want or have interest in Vpro... and that's fine. However, posting as if you know what everyone else thinks and/or re-writing history doesn't make the case. Just write that you don't like it... see no point in it for you, etc. No one can question that. I'll give you some very tangible reasons not to be interested myself:

  • It's very expensive at $3500
  • It's a first generation, very complex product
  • It is believed to have only 2 hours of battery life
  • It has a tether down to a battery worn around the waist
  • It may be uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time
  • It has a variety of "what if" socialization challenges
  • VR has a history of causing motion sickness for some
Those 7 should be enough for most doubters/pessimists.

Yesterday it was that new devices must do entirely different things than Mac to succeed and yet EVERY product Apple has added since Mac could be done on their Mac. None of them were entirely different from Mac.

Today it is...

Nobody thought iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch or AirPods would be a flop.

I gave you the link to the iPod launch not 6+ months before but on launch day, AFTER the Lord God Steve Jobs had just cranked the reality distortion field to the max... and still passionate Apple fans bashed iPod to no end... with mostly the same reasons Vpro is being bashed by Apple fans: too expensive, doesn't do anything that isn't already available, nobody is going to want, competition already exists at cheaper prices, etc.

You have to discount all that hard evidence away to be able to make a statement like "Nobody." Very clearly, many Apple fans seemed to see iPod much like many current Apple fans see Vpro.

And yet, we know how iPod turned out.

Click the link. Obviously you didn't look or you would be changing your "nobody" claim.

Again, nothing at all wrong with YOU not being interested in Vpro. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, sweeping statements using words like "nobody" and "everyone" requires you to actually know what everyone else thinks about it... not just project what you think about it as if that is what everyone else thinks too.

I'm quite enthusiastic about it myself, so I nullify extreme words like "nobody" and "everybody" myself. I'm not the only person with enthusiasm for Vpro. So they too nullify extreme words. Some number of people ARE interested in it... just as some number of people were interested in iPod when it launched, in Watch when it launched, etc.

I have no illusions that everyone should see it as I see it. I see no point in Watch (for me)... but millions and millions of people love their Watch. To each his own... as it should be.
 
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The product name vision pro sounds like specs store name, they should consider a different name instead.
 
Did you click the link into that iPod launch thread? It is full of equating the new iPod with the Mac Cube: doomed, flop, failure, will not sell, why would anyone want, price is too high etc.

Again, I appreciate that you don't like or want or have interest in Vpro... and that's fine. However, posting as if you know what everyone else thinks and/or re-writing history doesn't make the case. Just write that you don't like it... see no point in it for you, etc. No-one can question that. I'll give you some very tangible reasons not to be interested myself:

  • It's very expensive at $3500
  • It's a first generation, very complex product
  • It is believed to have only 2 hours of battery life
  • It has a tether down to a battery worn around the waist
  • It may be uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time
  • It has a variety of "what if" socialization challenges
Those 6 should be enough for most doubters/pessimists.

Yesterday it was that new devices must do entirely different things than Mac to succeed and yet EVERY product Apple has added since Mac could be done on their Mac. None of them were entirely different from Mac.

Today it is...



I gave you the link to the iPod launch not 6+ months before but on launch day, AFTER the Lord God Steve Jobs had just cranked the reality distortion field to the max... and still passionate Apple fans bashed iPod to no end... with mostly the same reasons Vpro is being bashed by Apple fans: too expensive, doesn't do anything that isn't already available, nobody is going to want, competition already exists at cheaper prices, etc.

You have to discount all that hard evidence away to be able to make a statement like "Nobody." Very clearly, many Apple fans seemed to see iPod much like many current Apple fans see Vpro.

And yet, we know how iPod turned out.

Click the link. Obviously you didn't look or you would be changing your "nobody" claim.

Again, nothing at all wrong with YOU not being interested in Vpro. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, sweeping statements using words like "nobody" and "everyone" requires you to actually know what everyone else thinks about it... not just project what you think about it as if that is what everyone else thinks too.

I'm quite enthusiastic about it myself. But I have no illusions that everyone should see it as I see it. I see no point in Watch (for me)... but millions and millions of people love their Watch. To each his own... as it should be.
Yes and some people have said NVIDIA would be dead with having a GPU at $1,600. Yet NVIDIA still exists and only those extreme individuals believes so. You can point to forum posts all day long. That is not evidence. I can give you dozens of posts about Windows being dead, Windows 11 is the worst product ever made, mac is dead, macOS is the worst product ever made etc. Doesn't mean its true. Its just forum posts and echo chambers fueling the conversations. Even in your thread people were mentioning MP3 players already existed and was quite common. So it was a very good market to begin with. Sounds to me like MP3 players prior to iPods were quite popular.

In the real world, nobody believed the iPod would be a DoA product. In fact, I know many people that preferred it over their full stack floor to ceiling shelving units of CDs they used to have. Constantly switching discs as they listen to music. It was a MAJOR improvement to how things were back then. I am certainly one of those. It was the best MP3 player, I tried others prior but did not like them as much as the iPod.

Vision Pro, the market has already spoken. Even the most important market available to it - gaming is having a VERY tough time getting off the ground. Putting on a headset does not do anything to improve life like ANY of the other products did. They were presented as smaller form factor, can be quickly glanced or manipulated (changing songs etc) and tracking your fitness. Vision Pro has no market to improve. It requires a significant physical burden with no real benefit. I can't wear any of the existing headsets for longer than 30 minutes without my eyes severely hurting and getting very dizzy. My eye doctor said it is quite normal and many people experience this with these devices. My eyes are healthy.
 
I'm a long-time Apple developer and I have 0% interest in developing for this thing. It's going to have such a tiny user base that there just won't be any way to make money on it. Not worth the time and trouble.
 

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I'm 58 and been using Apple stuff since '91. That early fascination with all things Apple is definitely wearing off for me and it's become simply a way to get things done. I don't crave the next upgrade or device like I used to, and part of me would gladly say goodbye to all of it if I could. I hear there is a trend among young people who are ditching smartphones for flip phones in an effort to become less shackled to technology. I don't know if this trend will grow, but as amazing as VisionPro seems to be as a tech gadget, it certainly moves more in the direction of isolation from the real world—something a good many people might ultimately reject.
Excellent point.
 
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People won't want to wear glasses either. If you already wear glasses are you then expected to pay extra for the prescription lenses you need like you are expected to do with the Vision Pro? Apple is out of its mind if they think people are going to pony up for this stuff.
Exactly ! As someone who wears glasses, I don’t really see myself ever using the Vision Pro or whatever it’ll evolve into a few years later. Having to pay extra for the prescription lenses is one thing, but I’m also a little worried about the long-term effects.
Like staring at your phone screen for long hours is already bad for your eyes, so imagine how having a digital screen on your eyes could possibly affect your eyesight, especially if you already wear glasses.

It’s a niche product and it seems fun, and I really like the advanced tech used in it, but it’s still a niche product targeted to niche audience. I doubt it’ll one day become the norm and replace the smartphone because it’s definitely not as practical as the phone is. Nobody wants to wear a heavy headset on their head or have a digital screen one-inch away from their eyes just to do a simple thing they can do by taking their phone out of their pocket. Well, at least not in public because that would be very awkward..
I can see it being targeted to gamers, maybe the tech YouTubers and tech savvy people who like to test and try out new tech, but the normal people ? Not really.
 
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If they had put just one lab on the East Coast it might be doing better. That list of cities sounds like Tim Cook’s vacation itinerary. Article says “list includes” but would be more accurate to say “list consists entirely of”. What a weird selection of cities. I get that they are trying to cover the globe, but there are two in Europe, three in Asia, but only one in all of the Western hemisphere? Why?
 
The other thing I would say for the Vision Pro AppStore is that these days developers have a lot more choice about where to spend their time than when the original iPhone and iPad came out. There are a lot more devices and a lot of app stores, software products for rent and so on. You’d have to have a passion to go against business sense and develop exclusively for a niche market.
 
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People also thought iphone, apple watch, air pods would also be a flop.

people want it to be a flop because of the price. They refuse to see the long terms development of what this is for that's the problem. They are just seeing the vision pro as it stands now and not what apple want it to be in the future.
people thought the iphone was going to be a flop so much that they lined up for hours to get one.

the market was ripe for the iphone.
 
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