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Um very Weak. I ripped a pure digital copy that I have multiple backups. This copy will survive decades and the digital copy can survive indefinitely While the original backup, not necessary for use, can survive super long in its case as backup needing only raw use.
Well, nobody's stopping you. Just keep doing that then. I'm not sure what it really has to do with anything we were supposed to be talking about here, but that's every Vision Pro thread. Starts out with somebody wanting to discuss something specific about it, ends with someone crapping all over it for "reasons".

I have had maybe 2 albums in my whole life become unavailable for some reason. In those cases, I've been able to find and rip both from YouTube. It sure beats keeping track of heavy boxes of plastic discs, especially when it comes time to move them to a new place. Maybe not so simple with video games, but with music and movies it's an easily solvable problem even without the shiny precious plastic physical disc.

Still not sure what this has to do with Vision Pro really though. I can't put a CD in my other devices either save for my Mac which I still have connected to an old school SuperDrive just in case.

Seems like you're just raging about digital media in general. I think there are plenty of other threads where you can complain about that. Maybe start a rant thread in the iPod section? I think that's where the current business model pretty much started.
 
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Its not about owning vs renting. Its about owning the right amount of stuff and the right mix of stuff. Having stuff just to have and not actually use doesnt make sense to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

There is always a risk of access to the music you previously liked being taken away even if you “own it”.

People are buying AVP for using. Its not some moment to pontificate about why people dont want to own records.
Why would you make what I said about AVP when I was replying to another dude about HD-DVD? What? And tell me how I have risk of my physical media being taken away, and why would you put "own it" in quotations? Are you high?
 
I'll NEVER get a VisionPro, because my biometrics belong to ME. I am never using TouchID, FaceID, or IrisID on ANY Apple (or other computing) device. EoS (End of Story)
I really hope this is satire. If not, then start with understanding how these technologies work, then start dealing with your paranoia. If it is, then just be careful with these statements. They're very triggering and damaging to people that actually do have paranoia / anxiety around technology.
 
Well, nobody's stopping you. Just keep doing that then. I'm not sure what it really has to do with anything we were supposed to be talking about here, but that's every Vision Pro thread. Starts out with somebody wanting to discuss something specific about it, ends with someone crapping all over it for "reasons".

I have had maybe 2 albums in my whole life become unavailable for some reason. In those cases, I've been able to find and rip both from YouTube. It sure beats keeping track of heavy boxes of plastic discs, especially when it comes time to move them to a new place. Maybe not so simple with video games, but with music and movies it's an easily solvable problem even without the shiny precious plastic physical disc.

Still not sure what this has to do with Vision Pro really though. I can't put a CD in my other devices either save for my Mac which I still have connected to an old school SuperDrive just in case.

Seems like you're just raging about digital media in general. I think there are plenty of other threads where you can complain about that. Maybe start a rant thread in the iPod section? I think that's where the current business model pretty much started.

Um the only one that seems to be raging is you above.
 
Um the only one that seems to be raging is you above.
I assure you I'm not. I'm just trying to explain to you that you've completely derailed this thread and I'm not even sure why it's been allowed for this long or why I'm even replying to you anymore. The bone you have to pick is not with me though.
 
I think my excitement for Vision Pro is two-pronged, now that I've had a weekend to think about what I've just ordered:

1) I am excited about the capabilities and experience. I have watched the WWDC keynote and the Guided Tour videos over and over and my excitement never lessens. Apple always seems to come up with the best versions of the devices I dreamed of having as a kid. (MacBook, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, etc., anything you could find Penny using on Inspector Gadget.)

2) I have missed the thrill of learning a new platform from the ground up and it's going to be so much fun even just to open the "Tips" app on day 1 of availability. I am an experienced user of VR headsets and have high expectations. I really think this is going to be like using my first iPhone or Mac. It's going to get crapped on a lot in the media for its price, and I don't care. I'm glad it got made at all and have been waiting for something amazing like this for a long time.
3) The anticipation as the day grows nearer and the back and forth that we have here on MacRumors. ;)
 
3) The anticipation as the day grows nearer and the back and forth that we have here on MacRumors. ;)
I have refreshed my order a zillion times this week to see if it's moved off of "preparing to ship" :) And yes, it is always fun in the "has my order shipped yet" thread.
 
I assure you I'm not. I'm just trying to explain to you that you've completely derailed this thread and I'm not even sure why it's been allowed for this long or why I'm even replying to you anymore. The bone you have to pick is not with me though.

Your "explanations" have derailed the thread IMO. I have no bones to pick, but you seem to yourself. Agreed on one thing, that this thread needs no more of it.
 
One thing I recall, when the iPhone launched there was so much more 'pressure' built up. People were really expecting and anticipating the phone. Many naysayers saying it's doomed. But also so many people fed up with their current phones.

The pressure for this is not as big. Phones are somewhat a necessity for modern life. Other VR/AR users may have their own pent up hopes for an 'uber device' but it's just not part of the mainstream wrt to basic utility for average people.

So this release doesnt feel as 'fizzy' as the iPhone release.

That said, if youre a tech head, and think this device may be the entry to RayBan type 'normal glasses' with these features, you get how this has the possibility of one day replacing your iPhone, or at least, augmenting it, or acting like an alternative, and it gets fizzy.

But the iPhone's immediate release had a lot more potential to be meaningful to a way wider audience.
 
One thing I recall, when the iPhone launched there was so much more 'pressure' built up. People were really expecting and anticipating the phone. Many naysayers saying it's doomed. But also so many people fed up with their current phones.

The pressure for this is not as big. Phones are somewhat a necessity for modern life. Other VR/AR users may have their own pent up hopes for an 'uber device' but it's just not part of the mainstream wrt to basic utility for average people.

So this release doesnt feel as 'fizzy' as the iPhone release.

That said, if youre a tech head, and think this device may be the entry to RayBan type 'normal glasses' with these features, you get how this has the possibility of one day replacing your iPhone, or at least, augmenting it, or acting like an alternative, and it gets fizzy.

But the iPhone's immediate release had a lot more potential to be meaningful to a way wider audience.
Appreciating your perspective on the affordability and widespread impact of the iPhone launch, it’s important to also recognize the excitement surrounding the Apple Vision Pro stems from its potential as a paradigm-shifting technology, much like other historic innovations.

When we reflect on groundbreaking products like the first VCR, the first iPhone, or the first flatscreen TV, what stands out isn’t just how many people could afford them initially, but how they fundamentally altered our interaction with technology and media. These weren’t just new gadgets; they were gateways to new experiences and ways of perceiving the world.

The Apple Vision Pro, in this context, represents more than just a high-end product with a specific price point. It embodies the next leap in tech evolution, particularly in the realm of Augmented Reality (AR). It’s about the excitement of what AR can bring to our daily lives, potentially transforming everything from entertainment to education, from social interaction to professional workflows.

The debut of the iPhone wasn’t just about a new phone; it was about ushering in the era of smartphones, apps, and mobile internet. Similarly, the Apple Vision Pro isn’t just about the device itself, but about the new era it signifies - a more immersive, interactive, and augmented way of experiencing our world.

While it’s true that price and accessibility are important factors in how quickly a product can impact the broader population, let’s not overlook the excitement that comes from witnessing a technological leap. It’s about seeing the seeds of change in how we will interact, learn, and connect in the future. That’s the kind of excitement the Apple Vision Pro is generating, akin to what we felt with other revolutionary products in our lifetime, and ChatGPT just this past year;).
 
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