are crts bad

[kylos]

That's not true. For example, the best CRTs display 85% of the NTSC color gamut. The best LCD, only 76%.

What's the point of having an SGI with 12-bit per component framebuffer and DACs, if you're going to connect an 8-bit LCD to it?

hey, hey, hey, it's all right. I meant no harm to the good name of crt's. Besides, color gamut is only one factor in monitor quality. Sure, crt's have advantages, such as color gamut as you mentioned, and better scaling and viewing angle, lcd's are by far sharper and much easier on the eyes. Plus, they're much thinner and lighter and don't have to bother with refresh rates and all that nonsense that only makes them more powerful. Very few people have sgi equipment or use dac's, anyway. So apart from the few who are interested in precise color, crt's are worthless eye burners.

 

[revenuee]

I have a 19" Lacie CRT - and i love it -- i'm probably going to buy a second one and have two monitors --- if i wanted LCD's of equivalent i would be spending probably double --- i would rather spend that money on another lens or flash unit for my camera -- i'de get more use out of that

 

[MacBandit]

The LaCie is just a rebadged (and I think older) Mitsubishi.

Better get the cheaper, newer and real thing: a Mitsubishi 2070SB (SB means the new SuperBright technology). I have one.

I believe Lacie creates their own control boards do they not? This is what makes the difference between dozens of brands of monitors on the market. There are only a few tube and LCD manufacturers but hundreds of companies that make their own controlling hardware and housings.

 

[Anarchy99]

For how long has the monitor you are considering been used?
What's the brand and model?

2-3 years and not sure of make/model yet

 

[Sun Baked]

I believe Lacie creates their own control boards do they not? This is what makes the difference between dozens of brands of monitors on the market. There are only a few tube and LCD manufacturers but hundreds of companies that make their own controlling hardware and housings.

Lacie may design their own power supplies and cases, but they most likely buy any electronics from someone else.

Heck that monitor series came to Lacie via the high-end monitor house they picked up.

Wouldn't be surprised if the monitor is just a Mitsubishi Pro-level monitor with a blue case and hood now.

 

[cube]

Lacie may design their own power supplies and cases, but they most likely buy any electronics from someone else.

Heck that monitor series came to Lacie via the high-end monitor house they picked up.

Wouldn't be surprised if the monitor is just a Mitsubishi Pro-level monitor with a blue case and hood now.

After reading some comparison review with the 2060u, it didn't appear there was any hardware difference. That's why I got the Mitsubishi.

I just found out the LaCie Electron22blue IV has SuperBright too, so I guess
it's based on the 2070SB, at least now.

 

[cube]

2-3 years and not sure of make/model yet

And how many hours per day?

 

[cube]

So apart from the few who are interested in precise color, crt's are worthless eye burners.

I switch my 22" CRT between 1600x1200 and 2048x1536 with good results.
I cannot do that on a 20" LCD.

 

[cube]

Very few people have sgi equipment or use dac's, anyway.

I just got a 400 MHz O2. It has only 24-bit graphics, but I preferred an UMA machine, so that I can have upto 1 GiB of graphics memory (well, minus RAM used by OS and program). Maybe I'll get an Octane2 in the future, but I'd rather see SGI make an IRIX/MIPS workstation with 12-bit per component color and 1 GiB of gfx memory.

 

[Anarchy99]

And how many hours per day?

well right now on my imac dv se im on about 8 hour per day
so im guessing when i buy a dual g5 for the first week or two it might be more but then i will probably be on about the same as i am now

 

[cube]

well right now on my imac dv se im on about 8 hour per day
so im guessing when i buy a dual g5 for the first week or two it might be more but then i will probably be on about the same as i am now

No. You said the monitor you were planning to buy was 2/3 years old, but not how intensively it was used.

 

[Anarchy99]

oops miss read i say it was used 4/5 hours a day in a office setting

 

[Peyote]

Lacie may design their own power supplies and cases, but they most likely buy any electronics from someone else.

Heck that monitor series came to Lacie via the high-end monitor house they picked up.

Wouldn't be surprised if the monitor is just a Mitsubishi Pro-level monitor with a blue case and hood now.

Some of the internals may be the same, but I believe LaCie uses a special anitglare coating on the screen that others do not...and as you pointed out, the case is dark blue. Both of these are really nice features when you use one day in and day out. Even the case being a dark color is really much easier on the eyes than a beige case.

 

[neoelectronaut]

I plan on getting a new CRT to exclusively use my Dreamcast in a few months. I think I'm just gonna get the cheapest I can find. Anyone know if Samsung's monitors are any good?

 

[cube]

oops miss read i say it was used 4/5 hours a day in a office setting

Well, then it means it would be like 1.5 years @ 8 hours a day. That's not bad.

Now you have to find out if it's actually a good model.

 

[Sun Baked]

Some of the internals may be the same, but I believe LaCie uses a special anitglare coating on the screen that others do not...and as you pointed out, the case is dark blue. Both of these are really nice features when you use one day in and day out. Even the case being a dark color is really much easier on the eyes than a beige case.

With Mitsubishi offering the 2070SB with Spectraview, Lacie probably doesn't need any internal changes to bring the monitor up to their spec.

Of course this monitor really isn't even on the Mitsubishi's Spectraview site any more. Just the two LCD monitors with the calibrator.

 

[kylos]

I switch my 22" CRT between 1600x1200 and 2048x1536 with good results.
I cannot do that on a 20" LCD.

Read my post. In fact, read both of my posts. I already mentioned that. In my opinion that's not worth much for your average user considering all the other benefits of lcds.

 

[kylos]

I just got a 400 MHz O2. It has only 24-bit graphics, but I preferred an UMA machine, so that I can have upto 1 GiB of graphics memory (well, minus RAM used by OS and program). Maybe I'll get an Octane2 in the future, but I'd rather see SGI make an IRIX/MIPS workstation with 12-bit per component color and 1 GiB of gfx memory.

Good for you. So you have a need for such equipment. Most people don't.

 

[Will Curran]

I've been using LCD's for the longest time, I'm never going to buy a CRT ever again.. one thing I don't like about CRT's are they are so heavy, I mean how are you going to bring your CRT monitor to a LAN or a friends house....I'd have a broken back by now. I heart LCDs...

But there is nothing wrong with CRTs it's just a matter on budget and prefrence. Mostly budget.

 

[cube]

Read my post. In fact, read both of my posts. I already mentioned that. In my opinion that's not worth much for your average user considering all the other benefits of lcds.

You said "scaling". I don't want to scale a 2048x1536 to 1600x1200 resolution.

Now, with the ViewSonic VP2290b you can say the only problem in this area is scaling.

 

[kylos]

You said "scaling". I don't want to scale a 2048x1536 to 1600x1200 resolution.

Now, with the ViewSonic VP2290b you can say the only problem in this area is scaling.

Your point? Scaling is bidirectional.

 

[cube]

Your point? Scaling is bidirectional.

That CRTs are capable of more dpi, except on the case of the ViewSonic.

(Well, in the vertical direction, and for aperture grille)

 

[kylos]

That CRTs are capable of more dpi, except on the case of the ViewSonic.

(Well, in the vertical direction, and for aperture grille)

Good for them. Though I already said that, so I don't really see the point in all this.

 

[jared_kipe]

There was a deal at best buy that let me get a pretty good 19" Samsung CRT for like $120.

 

[cube]

Good for them. Though I already said that, so I don't really see the point in all this.

You actually said the opposite. You said LCDs have more detail. You can only have more dots with the ViewSonic or with the 30" Cinema Display.