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Let's add these:

PROS
- No risk of bad pixels
- Fewer basic technologies, easier to choose among them. Spec sheets usually state which one is used.

CONS
- Risk of misconvergence (every unit is different)
- Color shifts over time. Needs recalibration every few months.
 
cube said:
You actually said the opposite. You said LCDs have more detail. You can only have more dots with the ViewSonic or with the 30" Cinema Display.

Having reread my posts, I see where you might have been confused. However, if you do the same, you'll see that I was describing lcds at their native resolution, the image is crisper and more detailed. Maybe the use of the word detailed didn't sit well with you; my point was, and has been that as you increase resolutions, lcds lose sharpness because they actually have a predefined number of pixels. CRTs, though their image quality cannot match an lcd at native res, easily surpass it at scaled resolutions. LCDs only scale well with integer scaling, and since the first integer scaled size is double, which would make screen elements impossibly small to work with, I said from the beginning that crts are better at scaling.
 
jxyama said:
if you consume more electricity, then you consume more energy.

I meant that you can rely on clean sources to produce electricity. It's not as if you're obliged to use fossil fuel to feed them (except perhaps in unsafe countries).
 
cube said:
I meant that you can rely on clean sources to produce electricity. It's not as if you're obliged to use fossil fuel to feed them (except perhaps in unsafe countries).

sorry to say, at some level, all sources of electricity are "not clean."

anyway, off topic now...
 
jxyama said:
sorry to say, at some level, all sources of electricity are "not clean."

anyway, off topic now...

solar, geothermal, wind??? (I left out hydropower because of what it does to fish).
 
Rod Rod said:
solar, geothermal, wind??? (I left out hydropower because of what it does to fish).
You forgot standing out during a lightning storm and getting repeatedly struck by lightning in order to power your LCD. :eek:
 
Rod Rod said:
solar, geothermal, wind??? (I left out hydropower because of what it does to fish).

wind, some would say they're bad for birds.
solar, needs to have improved efficiency, otherwise there are not enough surfaces available to provide enough electricity.
geothermal, people complain about the size of geothermal plants compared to their output and their ugliness
 
Rod Rod said:
solar, geothermal, wind??? (I left out hydropower because of what it does to fish).

Unfortunately, at least with the current level of technology, you still have to rely on fission, if that's what you are using.

But I imagine that for new non-renewable deployments/replacements, gas would be the best compromise.

So, in the end, there's no option but saving energy.
 
Rod Rod said:
solar, geothermal, wind??? (I left out hydropower because of what it does to fish).

solar - probably as 'clean' as it gets at the current level, but the chemicals/materials involved in the production of the panels are quite nasty stuff.

geothermal and wind - there are considerable effects on the surrounding ecosystem.

even nuclear isn't that clean, without considering potential accidents and waste storage... power plants require cooling water and nuclear power plants have considerable effects on the source of the water.
 
I love my Apple Studio Display CRT (ADC & Clear case). The colors are really rich and black IS black. The one thing I hate about it is those two stinking "horizontal stabilizer" lines. They are always there... those two very thin lines, all the way across the screen. :(
 
keysersoze said:
I love my Apple Studio Display CRT (ADC & Clear case). The colors are really rich and black IS black. The one thing I hate about it is those two stinking "horizontal stabilizer" lines. They are always there... those two very thin lines, all the way across the screen. :(

Well, I have never looked at that specific monitor, but chances are, you're a shadow mask person. I've only seen them once many years ago, with a white background and when I was looking for them.
 
On topic: Although all the discussion about the advantages of CRTs to certain graphics professionals are interesting, it's important to realize that the basic tradeoffs are pretty simple:

1) LCDs are vastly easier on your eyes according to almost anybody you ask (I know people with weak eyes that refuse to use anything else).
2) LCDs emit less radiation, which is probably healthy for you (and anybody behind the monitor if it doesn't face a wall).
3) LCDs use less power, but that's not a big enough savings to make them worth while in almost any case.
4) CRTs are much cheaper, if you really can't afford an LCD.
5) A good CRT will produce somewhat better color than most LCDs. This isn't nearly enough of a difference to matter to most people.
6) CRTs are better for huge refresh rates and extremely high resolutions, although in the latter case they generally start to look fuzzy at some point. This mostly matters to dedicated gamers, since few people use those high resolutions anyway.

Personally, I think for the vast majority of average users, LCDs are the easy choice. For those on a tight budget or with unusual color needs, CRTs are a better option.

I'd definitly look at used CRTs at this point, since the proliferation of LCDs is pushing a lot of people to sell perfectly good monitors (also negates the environmental impact, since the monitor already exists).


Off topic:
jxyama said:
solar - probably as 'clean' as it gets at the current level, but the chemicals/materials involved in the production of the panels are quite nasty stuff.

geothermal and wind - there are considerable effects on the surrounding ecosystem.
No, actually, properly done wind is usually "cleaner" than solar. The payback period for the manufacturing of the wind turbine is far lower than for a PV panel, the manufacturing process is cleaner, and they take FAR less land area to produce the same amount of power (you would have to pave a 200mX200m--10 acre--area with PV to equal the output of a single large turbine that can sit in a cow pasture somewhere). Large (~MW scale) wind turbines don't chew up birds, either, because they move so slowly.

Every method of producing energy, however "green", has some negative side effects, but wind currently has less than any other, and in fact is also the cheapest, period, with the exception of mine-mouth coal (that is, a coal-fired plant near a coal mine) and some kinds of natural gas plants (providing gas prices don't rise).
 
I for one prefer CRTs at the moment because I like to play games which require changing my screen resolution. Changing your resolution on a LCD just hasn't gotten to the point that to my eyes it's clear enough to use at anything but the native resolution. Also I like to have a large desktop area which requires a high resolution 1600x1200 or larger. Finally price which goes hand in hand with my last sentence. I can't afford to pay $1000 for a decent LCD to get a large enough screen area to be useable by me.
 
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