Not sure why I'm seeing talk of OLED in this thread when Apple refuses to provide even a 3360x2100 LCD.
Because it was easier to sell my 2018 now and then sell the 2019 when I upgrade this fall, than to sell the 2018 when I upgrade this fall.If you knew redesign is coming, why did you just buy one?
If you just got the 2019 MBP, you don't need to buy the new one. You know there are many better ways to spend a couple thousand dollars.
I just got the 15" 2019 MacBook Pro base model.
Feeling kinda bad that Apple may do a re-design in October.
But at the same time, first gen...
OK, if you can sell the old one for good price every round, it works, good for youBecause it was easier to sell my 2018 now and then sell the 2019 when I upgrade this fall, than to sell the 2018 when I upgrade this fall.
I wonder if products would be better if such laws existed in places where these products are designed.I might upgrade if the price is not too far above the current prices. I don’t mind first gen hardware, the consumer protection laws in Norway are quite good.
but that is also reference monitors. Why are cheap production lcd monitors better than oled? If apple puts an oled screen you're saying it will be worse than the current lcd tech? I don't buy it. There are different reference monitors oled and lcd doesn't mean lcd is best.
The average consumers budget would choose oled over lcd with similar prices. oled wins. Sony is abandoning their lcd manufacturing because of cost. Its cheaper to get master series level quality from oled than it is to produce their full array backlight systems with lcd.
I thought you posted that you regretted the 15" as its too big/heavy and wanted to sell it for the 13" The 16" will be larger/heavier then 15"I just got the 15" 2019 MacBook Pro base model.
Feeling kinda bad that Apple may do a re-design in October.
But at the same time, first gen...
The fact that 99% of reference monitors are LCD already tells you which one is better. The fact that Apple chose to use LCD for their $4,999 monitor tells you again. Apple didn't spend all that time re-engineering the LED backlight just for fun if OLED could perform the same.
LCD with quantum dot offers better color gamut and brightness than OLED. This is exactly what "pro" devices like iPad Pro and MacBook Pro need. OLED offers a thinner display and "true" blacks, neither of which are particularly useful for iPad or MacBook.
If you think cost is an issue, it isn't. A couple years ago, Dell sold a 30-inch OLED monitor for $3,499. Today, Dell sells an OLED notebook for less than $3,000. There's a good reason why Apple isn't biting.
I thought you posted that you regretted the 15" as its too big/heavy and wanted to sell it for the 13" The 16" will be larger/heavier then 15"
I thought you posted that you regretted the 15" as its too big/heavy and wanted to sell it for the 13" The 16" will be larger/heavier then 15"
I didn't think of that. If it's heavier and bigger then no way. But if it's thinner and lighter then that's good.
that's a great model you have, enjoy!!I just got the 15" 2019 MacBook Pro base model.
Feeling kinda bad that Apple may do a re-design in October.
But at the same time, first gen...
think you are totally right, announced October, avail, Dec/Jan earliest... I don't think it will be some blow out design... larger screen, less Bessel, new keyboard... kinda about it.. wondering what color, anyone know??There is no way Apple is going to update the 13 and 15” less than 6 months after they were last updated.
They let the entry level 13” sit for over 2 years and then just updated them a month ago when there was no need to do so if there was any truth behind new 13” models
The way I see it, this 16” is an extension of the current MacBook line up. We’ll see it announced in October and then like the Mac Pro come at a later date, maybe early next year.
Given the cost and the niche market it’s targeting it will be only suitable for youtube reviewers.
Then this same design will come in a 12-14” form factor become more affordable and eventually replace the older 13 and 15”
The 13 and 15” will simply not be updated again
I just bought a fully spec’d out 15” with all upgrades except the i only opted for the 2TB rather than 4, tbh I can probably make do with what I’m using for another few months so i’ll Return next week and wait until the upgrade as it’s a new form factor that will be the norm for the next 4 years and resale on a 2019 15”4 will be pretty poor once the 16” drops.I just got the 15" 2019 MacBook Pro base model.
Feeling kinda bad that Apple may do a re-design in October.
But at the same time, first gen...
I just bought a fully spec’d out 15” with all upgrades except the i only opted for the 2TB rather than 4, tbh I can probably make do with what I’m using for another few months so i’ll Return next week and wait until the upgrade as it’s a new form factor that will be the norm for the next 4 years and resale on a 2019 15”4 will be pretty poor once the 16” drops.
I don't know if the resale value on the 15.4 will be poor at all once the 16 is released, the 16.4" is not a replacement for the 15".... at least for a while... plus the 16 wont actually be avail. until Dec/Jan earliest I am sure!I just bought a fully spec’d out 15” with all upgrades except the i only opted for the 2TB rather than 4, tbh I can probably make do with what I’m using for another few months so i’ll Return next week and wait until the upgrade as it’s a new form factor that will be the norm for the next 4 years and resale on a 2019 15”4 will be pretty poor once the 16” drops.
Is not going to be thinner or lighter or smaller. The display size increase will certainly add weightI didn't think of that. If it's heavier and bigger then no way. But if it's thinner and lighter then that's good.
In what universe?I'm not sure what's the deal against LCD. Do people realize LCD still offers significantly better picture quality compared to OLED? There's a reason why studio production monitors are all LCD and Apple's Pro Display XDR is LCD.
They won't be ready by then. 10th gen chips are starting with low power CPUs for ultrabooks.What about a 10th Generation i9 ?
I disagree that the current (2019) models have thermal issues. Multiple people have tested the 8-core i9 models and found that they stabilize at around 2.9-3.1ghz under sustained max load and that the temperatures stay reasonable. IMO that is excellent for such a thin, light machine. If I wanted 4.5ghz sustained I could buy a huge bulky gaming PC, but I'd rather have a MBP.If it’s a complete redesign like we got in 2016 then I’d expect more than just screen size. The current generation has had lots of thermal issues so I’d expect a redesigned cooling system at the very least. I’d also guess there’ll be Face ID, a much improved camera, and a completely new keyboard. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Touch Bar got some kind of refresh as well.