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I disagree that the current (2019) models have thermal issues. Multiple people have tested the 8-core i9 models and found that they stabilize at around 2.9-3.1ghz under sustained max load and that the temperatures stay reasonable. IMO that is excellent for such a thin, light machine. If I wanted 4.5ghz sustained I could buy a huge bulky gaming PC, but I'd rather have a MBP.

Sure, but I didn't say anything about wanting sustained boost clocks. What my message meant to say was current design and not only the 2019 models. Yes, you get much better temperatures in the 15" 2019 but, like with the current Mac Pro, it seems like it's at the absolute limit of what it can handle. This is just what the iMac was suffering from and the iMac Pro had a new chassis that overhauled the cooling, solving the problem. My point is that it makes no sense for Apple to not refresh cooling if they're introducing a complete new design that'll likely be around for years to come. There's a difference between wanting sustained boost clock and having a laptop that isn't red hot most of the time.
 
I believe this 16.4 inch MacBook Pro is a new tier that targets the same customer as the new Mac Pro. So, if you plan on buying it, expect a high entry level price. Obviously, it’s gonna be powerful enough for two Pro XDR displays, come with i9 and 32 GBs of RAM standard. But it’s the entry level price that’s probably gonna cause a lot of you to re-think upgrading from your existing 2018 or 2019.

Just like the Mac Pro, Apple is gonna sell it with 256 GB SSD, cheap AMD graphics and expect you to customize it at purchase with the ideal specs you want. By the time you are done, the ideal 16 inch MacBook Pro is probably near 5 to 6 grand.

I personally am squeezing as much out of my early 2015 MBP. My upgrade date is late 2021. There is a lot of dust to settle and with technology micro-LED, it will be the right time really get a new model that will feel like a major jump from the original 2012 retina.
 
I believe this 16.4 inch MacBook Pro is a new tier that targets the same customer as the new Mac Pro.

I've heard that theory recently and it's obviously possible but I personally really don't think this is going to be the case. Apple have just started to show that they care about their MacBook lineup again and they've done a good job simplifying it. I find it hard to believe they'll add a slightly larger screen version as a new, higher tier and always keep this alongside the other sizes. Screen size doesn't necessarily correlate with the needs of professionals. I see no reason why there couldn't be a 16" model that also had an i7 and 16 GB RAM. I can think of many people who'd love a larger screen but don't care about an 8-core i9 and 32 GB RAM.

I'm happy to be wrong but I can imagine the 16" eventually replacing the 15" and a 14" replacing the 13". The general size of them will hopefully be similar to what we have now but with smaller bezels, etc. We'd then be back to having 2 Pro sizes and the Air. It just seems like the smart way to go, in my opinion.

Anyway, just a thought. I can't wait to see what they've been working on.
 
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I've heard that theory recently and it's obviously possible but I personally really don't think this is going to be the case. Apple have just started to show that they care about their MacBook lineup again and they've done a good job simplifying it. I find it hard to believe they'll add a slightly larger screen version as a new, higher tier and always keep this alongside the other sizes. Screen size doesn't necessarily correlate with the needs of professionals. I see no reason why there couldn't be a 16" model that also had an i7 and 16 GB RAM. I can think of many people who'd love a larger screen but don't care about an 8-core i9 and 32 GB RAM.

I'm happy to be wrong but I can imagine the 16" eventually replacing the 15" and a 14" replacing the 13". The general size of them will hopefully be similar to what we have now but with smaller bezels, etc. We'd then be back to having 2 Pro sizes and the Air. It just seems like the smart way to go, in my opinion.

Anyway, just a thought. I can't wait to see what they've been working on.
When Apple had a 17 inch PowerBook and MacBook Pro, they were different tiers that were more expensive than 15 and 13 inch models too. So, I don’t see why this is impossible considering Apple’s strategy is to make their hardware even more expensive. Look at the 2018 iPad Pro. When the first iPad came out in 2010, it started at $499, but now, you have models costing over 2 grand. It’s the same for the iPhone.

The average selling price of a Mac Pro was 3000, now its 6000. Apples strategy is phase in more expensive devices. Part of it is because users are keeping their existing models longer and Apple at least wants to get much out of that single buyer before their next upgrades. Because they know or suspect, that user is unlikely to upgrade for maybe the next 5 to 8 years. I was reading some comments from users planning on buying the new Mac Pro, some of these are customers upgrading from the 2010 model they previously owned, that’s 10 years old.

Apple knows, whoever picks up this new 16 inch is likely gonna keep it for a while, so, they say, lets charge them as much as possible for it.
 
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