Are there keylogger viruses for mac?

Discussion in 'Mac and PC Games' started by iBug2, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. iBug2 macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    #1
    I just got my WoW account hacked, I use a mac for nearly 15 years and I never had trouble with viruses so far. The only way someone could have hacked it is either somehow guess my password or keylogger on mac os x. If there is a keylogger in my computer, how can I detect it on Mac os X?
     
  2. psychofreak Retired

    psychofreak

    Joined:
    May 16, 2006
    Location:
    London
    #2
    There is NOT a keylogger virus, but there are keyloggers.
     
  3. tersono macrumors 68000

    tersono

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    UK
    #3
    Ain't no such animal, sorry
     
  4. yellow Moderator emeritus

    yellow

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    #4
    There ARE such things as keyloggers for Macs.

    I'd be more inclinded to think that it was a mod that you use for WoW that did it.

    The only way to be sure is to wipe everything and start over, otherwise, there's not likely to be many magic wands to make it go away.
     
  5. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    #5
    I always use the same modifications for a year, I recently didn't add anything new. And I doubt the mods are responsible for this. That's why I'm stunned since I also thought, still think, that there are no keyloggers which get in your mac involuntarily and do this kind of stuff.
     
  6. yellow Moderator emeritus

    yellow

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    #6
    Involuntarily? No.. not likely. But there are plenty of keyloggers.

    Just because you've used the same mods, doesn't mean that it wasn't harvesting your password all this time. You've never updated them in all this time?

    Also.. did you have a really simple password on your WoW account?
    Did you use the same username and password for other internet accounts?
    Maybe a friend (or enemy) was playing a trick on you?

    There's a lot of variables here.
     
  7. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    #7
    My password was not a simple one at all, I do use a similar one for my email account which is not hacked, none of my friends know my password. And yes I do keep updating those mods but they all come from one single website, like versiontracker.com, they can't put virused software there, or at least I wouldn't expect any viruses from that place.
     
  8. kkat69 macrumors 68020

    kkat69

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2007
    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga
    #8
    Mods that log keystrokes etc aren't tech virus's and in fact would be hard to tell from a quick glance unless you know the WoW mod script syntax.

    Most of those sights do not regularly check or validate (in other words do a code review) all mods submitted to ensure they aren't doing anything malicious. I'm hesitant of anyone "redoing" a mod that someone else has done to say it was updated for fear that they put some code in there. Make sure you didn't download anything like that. Also the number of downloads would tell you if it's pretty safe or not. Less downloads, probably not a well known mod and would be less inclined to get. I typically got my mods from Curse-gaming or ui.worldofwarcraft as they have good reputation of linking stable/safe mods.

    I've googled a little bit on this since my WoW account was hacked via keylogger that was downloaded from mmorpg.com (a lot of people caught this but I was one of the first that got nailed) so I was hesitant of every going to that website let alone via my new iMac and having my account hacked again.

    I found this website that might help you: http://mackeyloggerprotection.com/

    It talks about Mac Keyloggers specifically. Information is power and a little googling is probably more informative than the usual "there are no virus's for macs" responses most people are willing to dish out.

    True this system is safer but being "safer" does not mean "immune."

    I feel your pain for getting your account hacked. Good luck to you!
     
  9. gnasher729 macrumors P6

    gnasher729

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    #9
    You can install a keylogger yourself on your own computer, if you wish to do so, so you can find out what others type on your computer. Or someone else can install it if they have your administrator password and access to your computer. There are no keylogger viruses on the Macintosh.

    The most dangerous things at the moment are small USB devices that can be installed between keyboard and computer and record everything. MacOS X can't protect you because the whole keylogging happens outside the computer. Of course someone would have to physically get at your computer, install the keylogger and pick it up again later. And MacBooks / MacBook Pros are safe as long as you don't use an external keyboard.
     
  10. johnyy macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    #10
    My wow account was just hacked too. I use mac for 3 years and this is the first time i got hacked. Maybe someone installed mac keylogger on my mac. Anyone can help me to find out which mac keylogger it is? Is it Aobo Mac OS X Keylogger from aobo software or Spector For mac?
     
  11. Huntn macrumors G5

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #11
    What was the resolution of your case with Blizzard? Did you lose stuff? I wonder if Blizzard has any suggestions about this kind of protection? Some research is warranted.

    I assume that when it come to key loggers, changing your password frequently may not help at all... There was a time when Blizzard was advertising an authentication token for sale. However I went looking for it and the links I found connecting to the Blizzard store were dead and it's no where to be found at the Blizzard store. I wonder what happened to it?
     
  12. aznguyen316 macrumors 68020

    aznguyen316

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    #12
    key logging on the mac? a bit scary if you ask me =X
     
  13. MacAlpha macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Location:
    Great White North
    #13
    It is still listed in the Blizzard store under Other Products (or whatever the last tab is), but it is currently sold out.
     
  14. Consultant macrumors G5

    Consultant

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    #14
    Keylogger is an app. Yes it can be installed as an app if you are tricked into installing it. That is known as a TROJAN.

    The account was probably compromised due to phishing.

    THERE ARE NO VIRUSES on OSX (so there are NO "keylogger virus" for OSX).

    Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
    http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

    The Mac Malware Myth
    http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/29/the-mac-malware-myth/

    The Unavoidable Malware Myth
    http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...-apple-wont-inherit-microsofts-malware-crown/

    Road to Mac OS X Snow Leopard: 64-bit security
    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/16/road_to_mac_os_x_snow_leopard_64_bit_security.html
     
  15. DoubleTs macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    #15
  16. Plutonius macrumors 603

    Plutonius

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2003
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    #16
    Did you use an installer to install your mod updates ?

    You should always manually install your mods.
     
  17. Syonidism macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Location:
    Turkey
    #17
    Also if you logged into your wow account through an internet cafe(i.e. in Turkey) there are cafe's that use keylogger apps in their computers.

    After youve visited the said cafe, they wait for a limited time and then change your pass once they know they can sell it to someone and poof.
     
  18. tbob32 macrumors newbie

    tbob32

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2008
    Location:
    Oklahoma City, OK, USA
    #18
    There are many apps available that will monitor network traffic to see if your Mac is sending data somewhere your not expecting.

    Search for: macintosh network traffic monitor
     
  19. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030

    CylonGlitch

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Location:
    SoCal
    #19
    WoW scripts cannot log key strokes or otherwise get access to your password (they are not loaded until after login). BUT any mod that has an installer can install whatever they want during that time. Best bet is to never install any mod that requires an installer.

    You should be on a USER account, not an administrator account; that way it will have to pop up to make system changes. Typically things like key loggers would have to make changes at the system level.

    If you play across WiFi, there is a possibility of someone sniffing your WiFi traffic looking for the login information. But that means that they have to be physically near you. Someone, in theory, could be watching internet traffic going to the Blizzard servers and pulling passwords from there.

    Personally, if you don't have the Blizzard authenticator, or the iPhone app, then you will ALWAYS be at risk. I highly recommend getting one if you don't want to be hacked; it is worth the extra hassle.

    Many hacking attempts come from fishing. They have some site somewhere that looks promising to you and then after you give them your user name and password they will use that to get into your WoW account. Sometimes just taking your password as a template and trying variations on it.

    Your character names should be, in no way, associated with your account name.

    Someone could also hack an account if they know account names and just trying passwords via password lists. There are some very good password lists out there.

    Be careful, be cautious, and you should never use the same password on more then one site; especially for things that are important like your wow account, bank account, and others.
     
  20. Consultant macrumors G5

    Consultant

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    #20
    Most people use the same easy to guess passwords, thinking themselves are unique.

    No. Mac OS X is not Windows.

    Mac OS X has better security, so even when running as admin, OS X asks for admin password for system modifications.
     
  21. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030

    CylonGlitch

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Location:
    SoCal
    #21
    Uh, no. You should not be running with Admin accounts, period. Sure OSX has better security then Windows, but you should not leave your doors unlocked and that is exactly what you are doing as an administrator. If you have an admin account, you can have a lot more things done to your system without your knowledge. Sure it is typically very good; but why risk it? Running with a User account isn't bad on OSX as it is in windows; in fact it is very good. So why leave yourself open to trouble when it takes just a second to make it much more secure?
     
  22. Consultant macrumors G5

    Consultant

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    #22
    FALSE. OS X requires admin password to modify the system, even when running admin account.

    What you think is only for windows.
     
  23. Demigod Mac macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2008
    #23
    You got a Gawker account by any chance? Using the same password and email combo as your battle.net account?

    That would be my guess.
     
  24. Ravaroo macrumors 6502

    Ravaroo

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Location:
    feels like Canada South
    #24
    Sorry to hear about your account(s):(

    Had the same problem between BC & Wrath when my account was idle for many months. The only mod I ever used was the CT pack but I suppose that could have been the culprit.
    Blizzard rolled back my account to just before my password was changed (hacked) and so my main still had everything that was equipped at the time although I lost everything that was in the bank. The hacker actually took the time to max out some trade skills while I was absent, which is a silver lining in a small way I guess.
     
  25. downset macrumors member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    #25
    account with iphone app authenticator got hacked!

    me and my gf have been playing wow on mac for 3 years or so.

    i use a a fairly complicated password that i don't use anywhere else and is linked to an email just for wow, so i never used an authenticator and never got hacked.

    my gf does not like complicated passwords so she has been using an authenticator (iphone app) ever since its release

    this weekend her account got hacked, blizzard restored everything and said it was probably a key logger that got her account

    She never got disconnected while playing this weekend, if someone would steal her password and authenticator key with a key logger they would have to use it very quickly (the authenticator key is only valid for a very short time) and hence she would get logged out if they logged in onto her account from another location

    i would really like to know how this could have happened?
    any ideas or anyone had this happen WITH an authenticator?
     

Share This Page