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Im misread what is happening. In description of the film, he states he averaged 45 FPS in Epic Settings, and 70-80 in high.

Which would also fall in line with the numbers of one forum fellow member who averaged 60-70 FPS in Ultra settings.
So it seems like it is a very powerful card? although i am seeing a lot of issues with the BTO 460s should i be worried about that?
 
So, my question is - how does the 460 compare to iMac GPUs. I asked this already, but this was before people started getting them. I am interested how it compares to my M290X (iMac 5K 2014) as well as the M380 in the latest iMac. Anyone has any idea?

I asked because people here report better numbers in Overwatch than I seem to be getting on my iMac :)
 
So it seems like it is a very powerful card? although i am seeing a lot of issues with the BTO 460s should i be worried about that?
I dont know. Based on review data, it "should" not behave so good. Unless all of the reviews show absolutely worst case scenario for the GPU.

The actual numbers are more than baffling compared to other reviews, and GPUs.
So, my question is - how does the 460 compare to iMac GPUs. I asked this already, but this was before people started getting them. I am interested how it compares to my M290X (iMac 5K 2014) as well as the M380 in the latest iMac. Anyone has any idea?
It should be on par, or slightly faster, where you would require improved geometry performance from your GPU.
 
At Native resolution? Ultra settings?

Those scores are better than official reviews for desktop RX 460.

Look how close it would be to RX 470.
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Yeah, it is surprising. I don't get how it's possible at 2880 either, but those are the numbers I was getting.
 
So i have a small problem, I want to get the Pro 460 graphics, but to build that machine it is going to take till around jan 3rd to deliver, so that is a long time. but i could pick up a computer with the pro 455 like tomorrow. how much of a performance difference will there be? I will pretty much be playing only overwatch, along with final cut pro and other rendering software. The hesitation that i have with the pro 460 is there seems to be a large number of devices with the 460 that are having glitches. so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
So i have a small problem, I want to get the Pro 460 graphics, but to build that machine it is going to take till around jan 3rd to deliver, so that is a long time. but i could pick up a computer with the pro 455 like tomorrow. how much of a performance difference will there be? I will pretty much be playing only overwatch, along with final cut pro and other rendering software. The hesitation that i have with the pro 460 is there seems to be a large number of devices with the 460 that are having glitches. so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
455 is around 25-30% slower than RP 460.
 
would you recommend getting the 455 or the 460?
EDIT: i am mostly worried about the possibility of the glitches with the 460
In any case - not.

I will always recommend base model with update to RP 460, or second tier model with 2.7 GHz/16 GB/512 GB SSD/RP460.

RP 460 is the GPU to go. Always.
 
would you recommend getting the 455 or the 460?
EDIT: i am mostly worried about the possibility of the glitches with the 460

People here will always recommend the top GPU and nothing else. I remembet when the iMac 5K came out, it was top or nothing (because apps are getting gpu intensive, future proofing, I always get the best gpu, etc). Now, I'm not saying the 460 is not a great choice (I wouldn't worry about the glitches personally), but take it if you need 20-30% faster gpu. That's it. It depends what you need. Again, it's a fine choice, but so are the other two. Depends, mostly on what you're going to use your computer for.
 
I cancelled my order for the 2.7/455 combo and placed a new order for the 2.7/460 combo after learning that PS and Lightroom use the GPU. I too am concerned about getting a dud, but that's why I'm getting AppleCare. I'm hoping they iron out all the issues by the time I get mine mid to late December.
 
People here will always recommend the top GPU and nothing else. I remembet when the iMac 5K came out, it was top or nothing (because apps are getting gpu intensive, future proofing, I always get the best gpu, etc). Now, I'm not saying the 460 is not a great choice (I wouldn't worry about the glitches personally), but take it if you need 20-30% faster gpu. That's it. It depends what you need. Again, it's a fine choice, but so are the other two. Depends, mostly on what you're going to use your computer for.
Hello, thank you for your advise. I am looking to use this machine as a college student, but i also video edit in my free time (FCPX) as well as use blender to create models to 3d print as well as to render into images. the video editing that i will be doing will be full 1920x1080 and above, including some 4k shot on my phone. the other thing that i will be using it for is some light gaming, mainly overwatch and tf2, i would like it to be powerful enough to play those games at decent settings as well as possibly be able to stream/record the games as i am thinking about getting into gaming on youtube. I am well aware of the lack of gaming power in mac computers, but i do not have the funds/time/justification to build a gaming rig, which is why i would like the MBP to be at least competent. that is why i was going for the 460. As i am a student i have very little money and dropping something like 300$ on apple care is a little bit out of my price range (i dont even have quite enough money to purchase right now). the cost difference between a 2.6/512/460 and 2.7/512/455 is literally like 9 dollars. so the only difference that i can see is that the 460 will take till early january to arrive and may come with a borked gpu. i realize that i am rambling, but i really appreciate your advise.
FYI i currently have a mid 2012 non-retina MBP 13in, 2.5 i5/500SSD/16gb RAM
 
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Hello, thank you for your advise. I am looking to use this machine as a college student, but i also video edit in my free time (FCPX) as well as use blender to create models to 3d print as well as to render into images. the video editing that i will be doing will be full 1920x1080 and above, including some 4k shot on my phone. the other thing that i will be using it for is some light gaming, mainly overwatch and tf2, i would like it to be powerful enough to play those games at decent settings as well as possibly be able to stream/record the games as i am thinking about getting into gaming on youtube. I am well aware of the lack of gaming power in mac computers, but i do not have the funds/time/justification to build a gaming rig, which is why i would like the MBP to be at least competent. that is why i was going for the 460. As i am a student i have very little money and dropping something like 300$ on apple care is a little bit out of my price range (i dont even have quite enough money to purchase right now). the cost difference between a 2.6/512/460 and 2.7/512/455 is literally like 9 dollars. so the only difference that i can see is that the 460 will take till early january to arrive and may come with a borked gpu. i realize that i am rambling, but i really appreciate your advise.
FYI i currently have a mid 2012 non-retina MBP 13in, 2.5 i5/500SSD/16gb RAM

My two cents: There have been many MBPs with "borked" GPUs in the past. I'd get Applecare regardless of which GPU you choose. Apple sometimes extends the warranty on bad GPUs if it's a very common issue, but sometimes it takes them a long time to admit that the issue is very common.

Honestly, for your needs, you probably won't even notice the performance difference between the 455 and 460. So, if money is tight, get the 455 + Applecare. Otherwise, get the 460 + Applecare.
 
My two cents: There have been many MBPs with "borked" GPUs in the past. I'd get Applecare regardless of which GPU you choose. Apple sometimes extends the warranty on bad GPUs if it's a very common issue, but sometimes it takes them a long time to admit that the issue is very common.

Honestly, for your needs, you probably won't even notice the performance difference between the 455 and 460. So, if money is tight, get the 455 + Applecare. Otherwise, get the 460 + Applecare.
As far as i am aware apple has one standard year of technical support, and apple care extends that another 2, and i can purchase it. as there is very little difference between the cost of the 455 and 460 regardless of what i get i can wait upto a year before purchasing apple care and still be covered. is that correct?
 
As far as i am aware apple has one standard year of technical support, and apple care extends that another 2, and i can purchase it. as there is very little difference between the cost of the 455 and 460 regardless of what i get i can wait upto a year before purchasing apple care and still be covered. is that correct?

Yes, you can get AppleCare for Macs at any time during the first year (not the same for iOS devices, you only have 60 days there, and the AC itself is a bit different). Be sure to get AC! These computers are really, really expensive to repair. You're, basically, paying for a peace of mind.

The difference between 455 and 460 is a $100. Again, if you think you'll need a stronger GPU (and it seems like you do) - then it's probably worth the money, but get AC either way. I would rather get a 450 with AC than 460 without, for example.
 
Hello, thank you for your advise. I am looking to use this machine as a college student, but i also video edit in my free time (FCPX) as well as use blender to create models to 3d print as well as to render into images. the video editing that i will be doing will be full 1920x1080 and above, including some 4k shot on my phone. the other thing that i will be using it for is some light gaming, mainly overwatch and tf2, i would like it to be powerful enough to play those games at decent settings as well as possibly be able to stream/record the games as i am thinking about getting into gaming on youtube. I am well aware of the lack of gaming power in mac computers, but i do not have the funds/time/justification to build a gaming rig, which is why i would like the MBP to be at least competent. that is why i was going for the 460. As i am a student i have very little money and dropping something like 300$ on apple care is a little bit out of my price range (i dont even have quite enough money to purchase right now). the cost difference between a 2.6/512/460 and 2.7/512/455 is literally like 9 dollars. so the only difference that i can see is that the 460 will take till early january to arrive and may come with a borked gpu. i realize that i am rambling, but i really appreciate your advise.
FYI i currently have a mid 2012 non-retina MBP 13in, 2.5 i5/500SSD/16gb RAM
So you say you lack the funds to build a gaming pc but can spend near 3k on a macbook pro?
 
GPUs just bork, in general.

If you use them.

I don't think I've ever owned a GPU that I didn't eventually fry, aside from the one sitting in this iMac, which has already been replaced twice. So I'm sure I'll burn it again eventually, too.

Discrete GPUs are by leaps and bounds the most unstable technology in any computer. If you're buying a new Macbook Pro and getting the top GPU, and planning to use it for real, for years, mark my words: it will burn out.

That's just GPU life man. Torched GPU is why you get a new computer.

Now I'm sure a bunch of people will jump in with wild and fabulous stories about GPUs they didn't fry for 5 years straight. And to those people, I say, I guess you didn't overclock that badboy hard enough.
 
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So you say you lack the funds to build a gaming pc but can spend near 3k on a macbook pro?

Maybe he wants a MBP, but after spending 3k, he doesn't want to spend any more on computers. What's strange about that?

For example, I was planning to replace my PS4 with PS4 Pro this year, but after deciding to get a new MBP, I'm leaving that for the next year. You could say "I can afford a 3k computer but don't have $400 for a PS4 Pro" :D
 
So you say you lack the funds to build a gaming pc but can spend near 3k on a macbook pro?
I KNOW that a desktop gaming pc would be much better, i have access to one at school, (i7-6700k, 32gb ram, gtx 970, 4k display) so i do not have a reason to buy/build a gaming pc for the next 3 years.
I do however need a new laptop, my current MBP is chugging along valiantly but is starting to fail and i am starting to use it for programs that are more intensive than it can handle. This is why i am getting a new computer. I love the mac operating system and do not want to buy a windows laptop. I want my laptop to be powerful enough to do what i want it to do when i am not at school or do not want to be tethered to a desktop. if you have any more questions about why i am not building a pc please private message me and i would be happy to explain.
 
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Maybe he wants a MBP, but after spending 3k, he doesn't want to spend any more on computers. What's strange about that?

For example, I was planning to replace my PS4 with PS4 Pro this year, but after deciding to get a new MBP, I'm leaving that for the next year. You could say "I can afford a 3k computer but don't have $400 for a PS4 Pro" :D
Except you can a gaming laptop for nearly half the price of a MBP
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I KNOW that a desktop gaming pc would be much better, i have access to one at school, (i7-6700k, 32gb ram, gtx 970, 4k display) so i do not have a reason to buy/build a gaming pc for the next 3 years.
I do however need a new laptop, my current MBP is chugging along valiantly but is starting to fail and i am starting to use it for programs that are more intensive than it can handle. This is why i am getting a new computer. I love the mac operating system and do not want to buy a windows laptop. I want my laptop to be powerful enough to do what i want it to do when i am not at school or do not want to be tethered to a desktop. if you have any more questions about why i am not building a pc please private message me and i would be happy to explain.
Lol yea I see what you mean. You're still going to have bootcamp windows unfortunately to place most of these games though. I would get the 460 gpu if you plan to game a lot
 
I have looked at the topic of Graphic glitches. I know how this may sound, but IMO, ALL of them are software related.

Why? Because problems appear on computers with Intel GPUs only and with Intel+dGPUs.
 
Any comprehensive Reviews of 1080p gaming with the 460 vs. some other cards such as the nVidia 965m?

Will I be able to play Battlefield 1 with high settings at 1080p?
Would be amazing if someone could do some BF1 Benchmarks! :)
 
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