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BF1 is awesome on the Pro 460. I'll screenshot my settings, but I'm mostly high, some medium, highest AA setting at 2880x1800 and 65% resolution scale and it looks stunning and runs within 45-60+fps on 64 player matches. More than good enough for me to be gaming on the go - I was 61 kills 4 deaths or with 24,000 score recently and was dumbfounded that I could out-maneuver the rest of the server on my laptop.

I do need to mention though that if the battery is under a certain percentage, the MBP will shut down in use even when plugged in. I just had it shut me down in the middle of a BF1 match, and then again at the main menu.
 
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BF1 is awesome on the Pro 460. I'll screenshot my settings, but I'm mostly high, some medium, highest AA setting at 2880x1800 and 65% resolution scale and it looks stunning and runs within 45-60+fps on 64 player matches. More than good enough for me to be gaming on the go - I was 61 kills 4 deaths or with 24,000 score recently and was dumbfounded that I could out-maneuver the rest of the server on my laptop.

I do need to mention though that if the battery is under a certain percentage, the MBP will shut down in use even when plugged in. I just had it shut me down in the middle of a BF1 match, and then again at the main menu.
can you comment on twitch streaming abilities?
Could you also post some pictures of the Crimson software. As well as the possible over clocking utility
 
can you comment on twitch streaming abilities?
Could you also post some pictures of the Crimson software. As well as the possible over clocking utility


I don't stream with Twitch, but I am using MSI Afterburner / Rivatuner to add a Shadowplay-like 5 minute record buffer so I can save crazy moments instantly and it seems to have no problem recording/encoding in the background while gaming at the previously mentioned settings.

Here are the AMD panels that I can find. Not too many settings to be found, although I installed MSI Afterburner (bottom right) initially for its record feature but it seems to allow me to adjust the core and memory clocks. I have not given this a try, though.
 

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I don't stream with Twitch, but I am using MSI Afterburner / Rivatuner to add a Shadowplay-like 5 minute record buffer so I can save crazy moments instantly and it seems to have no problem recording/encoding in the background while gaming at the previously mentioned settings.

Here are the AMD panels that I can find. Not too many settings to be found, although I installed MSI Afterburner (bottom right) initially for its record feature but it seems to allow me to adjust the core and memory clocks. I have not given this a try, though.
In the crimson settings, go to the gaming page and is there a global overdrive page?
 
In the crimson settings, go to the gaming page and is there a global overdrive page?


I don't see any settings for overdrive anywhere, unfortunately. Gaming / Global settings lists AA mode and method, Morphologial Filtering, Anisotropic Filtering, Texture Filter Quality, Surface Format Optimization, V sync, Triple Buffer, Shader cache settings, tessellation mode, and a "power efficiency mode" which is off by default.
 
I don't see any settings for overdrive anywhere, unfortunately. Gaming / Global settings lists AA mode and method, Morphologial Filtering, Anisotropic Filtering, Texture Filter Quality, Surface Format Optimization, V sync, Triple Buffer, Shader cache settings, tessellation mode, and a "power efficiency mode" which is off by default.

Do you run the Apple-supplied driver or the newest AMD one?
 
Do you run the Apple-supplied driver or the newest AMD one?


Apple-supplied. I tried to install the standard AMD driver, as well as one that identified itself as being for the new "Radeon Pro xxx" line, and neither would detect a compatible GPU and refused to install.

:edit: I just tried to change core/memory clocks in Afterburner and they snap back to their defaults after hitting Apply :/
 
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Apple-supplied. I tried to install the standard AMD driver, as well as one that identified itself as being for the new "Radeon Pro xxx" line, and neither would detect a compatible GPU and refused to install.

Yeah, you need to mod the driver. Its beyond me why AMD would explicitly blacklist Apple laptops in its config files. I usually mod them by hand but its nice to know that a page like http://www.bootcampdrivers.com exists.
 
Yeah, you need to mod the driver. Its beyond me why AMD would explicitly blacklist Apple laptops in its config files. I usually mod them by hand but its nice to know that a page like http://www.bootcampdrivers.com exists.

To discourage people from burning their slimline laptops by gaming on them. Sometimes this forum looks like it has very few professionals and too many rich kids who want to show off an expensive gaming console. It's embarrassing for the rest of us.
 
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To discourage people from burning their slimline laptops by gaming on them. Sometimes this forum looks like it has very few professionals and too many rich kids who want to show off an expensive gaming console. It's embarrassing for the rest of us.
im not sure what you are trying to say here
 
im not sure what you are trying to say here
One remark. Since the Retina 2012 MBP release, MacBooks do no longer run without draining the battery, even when connected to a charger. This means running a MacBook at its maximum power consumption over a longer period of time will run down the very thin Lithium Polymer batteries.
This is probably a good reason to limit the maximum power consumed overall, thus making comparisons with other systems rather pointless.
I would assume that Apple knows all this and intentionally makes the hardware unattractive to use in such ways.
 
One remark. Since the Retina 2012 MBP release, MacBooks do no longer run without draining the battery, even when connected to a charger. This means running a MacBook at its maximum power consumption over a longer period of time will run down the very thin Lithium Polymer batteries.
This is probably a good reason to limit the maximum power consumed overall, thus making comparisons with other systems rather pointless.
I would assume that Apple knows all this and intentionally makes the hardware unattractive to use in such ways.

I know this is a bit crude comparison BUT assuming you use the CPU and GPU 100% they should use around 45Wand 35W. This combined adds up to 80W. Add 10W for the rest of the system and you have 90W total power used. The current Charger is rated at 87W. thunderbolt3 supports up to 100W.

I'm pretty sure you won't drain the battery during regular gameplay, only when taxing the entire system via specific benchmarks. Even the you could get a 100W charger once these are released.
 
I know this is a bit crude comparison BUT assuming you use the CPU and GPU 100% they should use around 45Wand 35W. This combined adds up to 80W. Add 10W for the rest of the system and you have 90W total power used. The current Charger is rated at 87W. thunderbolt3 supports up to 100W.

I'm pretty sure you won't drain the battery during regular gameplay, only when taxing the entire system via specific benchmarks. Even the you could get a 100W charger once these are released.


I lost 30% in two hours playing Battlefield on the built-in display. It definitely, one hundred percent does drain the battery when you're using CPU+GPU intensively, which happens during regular gameplay.

TB3 supports 100w input? I wonder if Apple has designed the MBP to be able to accept a larger than 87w power source from a single cable, or if it will only draw a limited amount like, say, a 13" tMBP plugged into an 87w brick.
 
One remark. Since the Retina 2012 MBP release, MacBooks do no longer run without draining the battery, even when connected to a charger. .

I am fairly sure this is deliberate to 'exercise' the battery a bit and keep it at its optimal operating order (as partial cycling actually improves the battery longevity)*. I know that a number of users report that the laptop will actually lose charge when on adapter and running demanding workflows, but I have never observed that myself.

* See for example this document: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
 
I lost 30% in two hours playing Battlefield on the built-in display. It definitely, one hundred percent does drain the battery when you're using CPU+GPU intensively, which happens during regular gameplay.

TB3 supports 100w input? I wonder if Apple has designed the MBP to be able to accept a larger than 87w power source from a single cable, or if it will only draw a limited amount like, say, a 13" tMBP plugged into an 87w brick.
were you able to install the AMD supplied drivers?
 
Not yet, I had to do some last minute travel for work but will update when I have a free second to tinker with the Windows side.
AMD has updated to the "ReLive" edition which has integrated shadowplay like features, and is in the newest driver package from bootcampdrivers.com
 
I lost 30% in two hours playing Battlefield on the built-in display. It definitely, one hundred percent does drain the battery when you're using CPU+GPU intensively, which happens during regular gameplay.

TB3 supports 100w input? I wonder if Apple has designed the MBP to be able to accept a larger than 87w power source from a single cable, or if it will only draw a limited amount like, say, a 13" tMBP plugged into an 87w brick.
What brightness did you have the screen at when playing BF1? Is there anyone else who gets this issue outside of benchmark or rendering apps that use 100% cpu+gpu?

Also, maybe you try setting your max CPU frequency to 99% in the control panel to see if that reduces battery usage during BF1. 99% should stop it from boosting.
 
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What brightness did you have the screen at when playing BF1? Is there anyone else who gets this issue outside of benchmark or rendering apps that use 100% cpu+gpu?

Also, maybe you try setting your max CPU frequency to 99% in the control panel to see if that reduces battery usage during BF1. 99% should stop it from boosting.


Probably maximum brightness or within two notches of it. I'll experiment with this and 99% frequency next time I run the game. Battlefield's frostbite engine is CPU-heavy, but I'd imagine it'll do fine at 2.9ghz. I get great performance from the 12-core Haswell Xeon in my other computer which maxes out at like 2.6ghz.
 
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