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Are you ok with the new MacBook Pro having only USB-C ports? [Poll]
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My error. I misread your question. I thought you wanted to plug a monitor or drive into TB-3.
I'm so out of touch with the latest technologies, when I first read this –
– I thought it was tongue-in-cheek (like wishing for FireWire 800 USB 1.0). Now I see https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-does-it-all
Still, I'm more than OK with things such as this:
– I thought it was tongue-in-cheek (like wishing for FireWire 800 USB 1.0). Now I see https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-does-it-all
Still, I'm more than OK with things such as this:
Why? What is wrong about one cheap, reliable, compact standard port that does it all?
I voted yes under the assumption that they are all Thunderbolt 3 ports. I'm coming from a macbook with one USB-C gen 1 port...so having more than one, more speed with TB3 (And the ability to use some older TB gear) and the ability to output 4k@60hz means I will be just fine.
In fact I am really hoping that charging can happen via USB-C as I already have a monitor for my macbook with dock/display/audio/power routed through it, meaning I only have to plug in one thing and I have a docked machine. Would be even more awesome with a MBP and an i7.
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There are already monitors that do all of that (Power, USB3 hub, display). They are currently limited to 4k@30hz because the Macbook only has USB-C gen 1.
In fact I am really hoping that charging can happen via USB-C as I already have a monitor for my macbook with dock/display/audio/power routed through it, meaning I only have to plug in one thing and I have a docked machine. Would be even more awesome with a MBP and an i7.
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I'm fine with buying adapters, but 2 USB-C on each side is insufficient; need at least 3 on each side.
Power, 4K+@60Hz display, extra peripherals.
My use case shouldn't be something unusual; it's supposed to be a 'pro' laptop for work.
Currently, no single adapter supports all three, so it will be pretty ugly until one comes out in my setup
There are already monitors that do all of that (Power, USB3 hub, display). They are currently limited to 4k@30hz because the Macbook only has USB-C gen 1.
I'll wait it out until USB-C is more ubiquitous.
I loved when Apple finally integrated an HDMI port with the MBP. I loathe extra adaptors.
I loved when Apple finally integrated an HDMI port with the MBP. I loathe extra adaptors.
Yes, I'm aware of those but not really planning on buying new 4k monitors just for the the rMBP when I already own them.
Ideally, I'd hope there will be an adapter or dock that supports all of [power delivery, 4k@60 Hz display, and extra USB] by the rMBP release under or around $100 range so I don't need to feel like burning a hole in my wallet buying two of them (work & home). Those $200+ TB2 docks were just so inadequately priced for those who needed more than one... While this was probably inevitable due to the small market TB2 presented, USB-C will hopefully be a different story driving the price down to <$100 range.
As long as there will be such a product some time soon, I see no problem at all going USB-C all-in.
Looking around the office, a large telecoms provider (with LOTS of in-house development where I work), all the different machines (HP ultrabook style mostly, 10% Apple), connectivities, equipment that we use.. Err, no trace whatsoever of a USB-C port or anything that will connect to such a port..
Beamers in meeting rooms are vga even.., screens are all hdmi/dvi, ethernet is still used (but not exclusively) so poor mac people are carrying multiple dongles for doing everything, and will be for years, which is hardly desirable is it..?
You could argue that this is not a "pro" environment, and i'd agree that we are not doing hardcore stuff but, on the other hand, we were using the machines 8 hours a day for work, and need good keyboards (not rMB style please..), good connectivity (and not a bag full of dongles) and a nice usable machine basically - is that "pro" enough?!
So, sometimes, bleeding edge is just bleeding annoying..
I'm okay with it, after getting used to the rMB. The only port that I ever really cared about on a laptop was an Ethernet port. I hated it when Apple got rid of it with the rMBP, but Wifi speeds have come a long way since then, and now I very rarely plug in at my desk.
So in order not to have to use an adapter you would need a laptop with VGA, hdmi, dvi, Ethernet and presumably USBa, USBC and for good measure FireWire.
That's a mighty fat laptop! I'd way rather carry any adapter I personally need than have legacy ports like that to permanently lug around in my laptop thanks.
I have been to offices ranging from ones that are still using pentium 4 machines running XP, to ones running all Mac + cloud solutions. On the latter, presentations and conferences are run via cloud solutions (so even dongles are not needed, let alone legacy ports). Some offices have different priorities in terms of IT.
When Apple make something that you don't like, it doesn't mean they are doing it to piss you off and they are against your needs. They just make stuff. Find what YOU need yourself. There are plenty of business laptops that are light and still sporting VGA port, etc. Apple has minimal product lineup strategy. Other OEMs are more than willing to fill the niche like what you required.
Tradition on its own is not good enough reason to continue doing something.
USB-C is a fantastic standard. Over a decade of work has gone into providing this universal bus with power, high bandwidth, low latency, mechanical engineering excellence, software ubiquity, aesthetics, knowledge, experience, etc.
I sometimes despair for humanity.
Here it is, and yet there's a load of Luddites (above) who don't want it because there's a Windows XP in their office (i.e. not a serious environment where the Mac philosophy is the underlying one).
USB-C is a fantastic standard. Over a decade of work has gone into providing this universal bus with power, high bandwidth, low latency, mechanical engineering excellence, software ubiquity, aesthetics, knowledge, experience, etc.
I sometimes despair for humanity.
Here it is, and yet there's a load of Luddites (above) who don't want it because there's a Windows XP in their office (i.e. not a serious environment where the Mac philosophy is the underlying one).
Agree. USB-C is far from being a universal standard. The only USB-C device I've seen in the Wild is the one 12" MacBook owned by someone I know.
By itself and in a bubble USB-C is excellent and technically gives the machine more flexiblity, but until we start seeing work/school computers, the average 3rd party display, average television, cheap flash drives, etc. all have USB-C and USB-C only, having all USB-C ports is just going to be an inconvenience.
Other manufacturers understand this fact, which is why they still come with USB-A ports but contain a USB-C port. Getting the whole world to shift to completely different port is not going to happen over night, and I'm fairly sure the average person doesn't even know what USB-C is right now. Heck, the person I know with a 12" MacBook doesn't fully understand what the heck a USB-C port is.
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Talk about exaggeration.
HDMI and USB-A are not thick ports and are used virtually everywhere. Any modern display or TV will have an HDMI port for example. Even when the average display or TV does start putting USB-C, they will still have HDMI ports for years after. Almost every flash drive or peripheral right now uses USB-A. VGA and DVI are redundant except for office projector situations with HDMI. Same with firewire when you have thunderbolt.
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Remember Apple adopted USB-A long beforre it was a universal standard. I fully expect them to go all USB-C on the MacBook Pro. I'm surprised they haven't done it already. There are a lot of 2-3 lb 15" notebook now (granted they all use 15W processors). If they want the MacBook Pro to be as thin as the MacBook it will go all-USB-C. MacBook Pros already need adapters to use Ethernet, VGA, etc. and there are plenty of standalone USB-C to VGA/DP/Ethernet/HDMI/USB-A adapters out there that are not very expensive.
My Nexus 5X is USB-C. Been using it for about six months. Lovely connector - nice and tactile. Oh, and reversible. I simply don't have to worry about flimsyness/dodgy connections anymore.
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Again. The appeal to tradition. Yawn. This has been done to death on that other thread.
You seriously want a HDMI and USB-A clunk on a machine that probably won't be redesigned again until 2020?
You must work in accounting or something really boring, unimaginative, uncreative and stuck in the past.
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Again. The appeal to tradition. Yawn. This has been done to death on that other thread.
You seriously want a HDMI and USB-A clunk on a machine that probably won't be redesigned again until 2020?
You must work in accounting or something really boring, unimaginative, uncreative and stuck in the past.
My work place, which is usually well behind the times, put an Apple TV in every conference room. Mac users, in theory, could airplay to the TV. The only problem is they don't buy us Macs.
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I've already acknowledged that USB-C is a better standard, but it's simply not the universal standard you and several other posters are making it out to be. The poster I was replying to was making a gross exaggeration that we need a bunch of redundant ports so that you wouldn't need to use adapters. USB-A and HDMI are merely two examples of ports that are universally used that wouldn't require the machine to be thick and would serve the purposes of most people without dongles. You need to to brush up on your fallacies before spitting it out on a forum. Just by your last sentence and that fact that you singled out and quoted a small piece of a sentence while ignoring the rest of the post, I can already tell what type of person I'm dealing with, so I'm going to leave this thread alone.
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Where? In the present. Other than a FEW phones there isn't anything taking advantage of USB C..... No hard drives, monitors or etc. Not buying an adapter or a new mouse for the sake of having USB C.
Golf clap? Cool your nexus 6P has it? I don't have it and I have an iPhone 6 plus. Last time I checked it doesn't have a USB C port. Of all the devices I own only my hp spectre has USB C ports and I didn't buy it....
Having one or two USB C ports? I'm all for it but no way on earth I want them to remove USB 3.0 or hdmi
There are USB-C monitors and SSDs. And Bluetooth mice have been around for years (no need to waste a port).
Well I haven't seen it and I go shop at bestbuy regularly. Also not buying a new monitor or hdd just because I have a computer with USB C. Waste of money for the sake of a new plug? You can go do that. And Bluetooth? As I said I'm not buying a new mouse for the sake of new technology. I happen to have a fully functional wireless mouse with doggle.