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Are you returning your Samsung chip iPhone for a TSMC?

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HEK said:
Thanks for posting articles. I was going from memory so time line was compressed incorrectly by me, but the fact that he gave proprietory information to Samsung that allowed them to jump ahead of where they would have been is true. What have the courts ruled on this?

There are all sorts of this stuff that happened and is happening. The original menu pull down, Windows graphical interface with mouse and interconnected office was all developed at Xerox PARC and viewed by Jobs on a tour. Find it hilarious and ironic that Xerox executives didn't listen to their own R&D people.
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I think they can only really sue him for the non-complete clause breach. Where do intellectual rights end and the human rights begin? They may have sued him for more stuff but how much can a tech giant stand to gain from one man, it's not like it will hurt him anyway because I'd imagine Samsung would just pay him for the trouble. And it seems TSMC won't sue Samsung. I assuming TSMC lawyers know that they can't beat Samsung for whatever reason.

What I find the most interesting (and the reason I was doing research back then) is supposedly some of the most modern designs and ideas are TSMC's (albeit contributed by Liang) from....2009.....? I know processor manufacturers spoon feed us there tech so they can profit but 6 years!? Be interesting to see what was possible with current legitimate ideas if we had the means to manufacture them.

Edit: just occurred to me. With all the practice in court Apples given Samsung who would want to sue them?
 
Here's my advice:

If you have a TSMC iPhone, do nothing. You can rest easy.

If you have a Samsung iPhone, ask yourself this: does battery life matter to you? If it does, then return your Samsung iPhone for a TSMC iPhone. If it doesn't matter to you if your iPhone dies during the day, then you can stick with your Samsung iPhone.
 
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HEK said:
Let's recap,
Can't trust Apple
Can't trust other testers, probably bought out by Apple
Can't trust Consumer Reports
But do trust one artificial test, isolating the processor and running one phone.
So you can't actually say there is a big difference in chips, but don't trust anyone that demonstrates it.

Beginning to see a pattern here? Just curious, how old you think the earth is? Do you think the moon landings were real? Do you think you are being spyed on, I mean other than by NSA, Google, and Facebook? I demand Apple prove that unicorns don't exist. If they don't, well then, they must be hiding some, probably in China.

Are their defective phones out of the 20 million made so far? I'm certain of it. Will Apple stand behind their product and replace them? More than likely. After all they have built an infrastructure to do just that. Of all the phone suppliers in the world, Apple has consistently demonstrated they will replace a bad product. Far and away more effectively than the others.
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Wow, the rage coming off you is intense. Maybe take a break.
 
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barkomatic said:
Wow, the rage coming off you is intense. Maybe take a break.
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Rage? Not hardly. I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Am laughing over most posts. Just call em as I see em. Since this is boiling down to opinion. I have my opinion. I just don't happen to think testing the chip in isolation proves anything worth switching phones over. And when I see the paranoia when tests and reports don't support the fringe element that wants to make this into a huge issue, I respond with sarcasm.

I think the original test showing showing 20% difference in battery life between chips is flawed and misrepresenting overall battery life. Make up your own mind and do as you wish, you have my permission and I won't get mad at you. But I might laugh.
 
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Poontaco said:
Rage? I sure didn't sense any rage in his comment - Just a bunch of well deserved sarcasm.
You people are nut-cases.
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Ok someone gets it.

Now it's obvious that Samsung is orchestrating a giant conspiracy to make the new iPhones look bad. Lets's look at the fact they made a competing chip, selling it at cut rate price to force Apple into using it due to Apple's greed.

They make the chip so that it will report greater battery drain on this one geek bench test. Probably event helped geek bench code the test or paid them to do it.

Then they get key people to blog how terrible the Samsung chip is forcing massive returns and flooding Apple stores with opened boxes that have to refurbish. This slows sales so that the strategically placed release of S6 in pink is the only alternative.

Yup this is what is happening for sure. Ignore any fine print. Looks over shoulder to see if anyone is following me.

All reason and logic have been temporarily suspended to bring you this rage.
 
Benjamin Frost said:
Here's my advice:

If you have a TSMC iPhone, do nothing. You can rest easy.

If you have a Samsung iPhone, ask yourself this: does battery life matter to you? If it does, then return your Samsung iPhone for a TSMC iPhone. If it doesn't matter to you if your iPhone dies during the day, then you can stick with your Samsung iPhone.
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I have a question: are you anticipating opening the phone, installing one of the apps to identify the chip while in the store and then return it again (or refuse to accept it)?

Again, to simply say that "if battery life doesn't matter, keep the Samsung chip" is simply spewing misinformation. I do care about battery life, but my Samsung-chipped iPhone 6S Plus is more than adequate to get me through the day. And the latest reports seem to indicate than any difference is marginal and anecdotal, at best.

Do what you need to do, but I have no problem with keeping my phone with the Samsung chip, and in direct opposition your thesis, I DO care about battery life.
 
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dwfaust said:
I have a question: are you anticipating opening the phone, installing one of the apps to identify the chip while in the store and then return it again (or refuse to accept it)?

Again, to simply say that if battery live doesn't matter, keep the Samsung chip is simply spewing misinformation. I do care about battery life, but my Samsung-chipped iPhone 6S Plus is more than adequate to get me through the day. And the latest reports seem to indicate than any difference is marginal and anecdotal, at best.

Do what you need to do, but I have no problem with keeping my phone with the Samsung chip, and in direct opposition your thesis, I DO care about battery life.
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I applaud your reason and sanity as some jump from Windows screaming doom.
 
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dwfaust said:
I have a question: are you anticipating opening the phone, installing one of the apps to identify the chip while in the store and then return it again (or refuse to accept it)?

Again, to simply say that if battery live doesn't matter, keep the Samsung chip is simply spewing misinformation. I do care about battery life, but my Samsung-chipped iPhone 6S Plus is more than adequate to get me through the day. And the latest reports seem to indicate than any difference is marginal and anecdotal, at best.

Do what you need to do, but I have no problem with keeping my phone with the Samsung chip, and in direct opposition your thesis, I DO care about battery life.
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This. My Samsung phone gets me through the day, that's what matters.
 
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HEK said:
Ok someone gets it.

Now it's obvious that Samsung is orchestrating a giant conspiracy to make the new iPhones look bad. Lets's look at the fact they made a competing chip, selling it at cut rate price to force Apple into using it due to Apple's greed.

They make the chip so that it will report greater battery drain on this one geek bench test. Probably event helped geek bench code the test or paid them to do it.

Then they get key people to blog how terrible the Samsung chip is forcing massive returns and flooding Apple stores with opened boxes that have to refurbish. This slows sales so that the strategically placed release of S6 in pink is the only alternative.

Yup this is what is happening for sure. Ignore any fine print. Looks over shoulder to see if anyone is following me.

All reason and logic have been temporarily suspended to bring you this rage.
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Is this sarcasm?
 
Benjamin Frost said:
Here's my advice:

If you have a TSMC iPhone, do nothing. You can rest easy.

If you have a Samsung iPhone, ask yourself this: does battery life matter to you? If it does, then return your Samsung iPhone for a TSMC iPhone. If it doesn't matter to you if your iPhone dies during the day, then you can stick with your Samsung iPhone.
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Sarcasm?
Jayjew said:
Got a Samsung chip. I ain't even mad, and I'm coming from a TSCM 6s+. You guys are insane....
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Same, other than my distaste for Samsung's theft of trade secrets. But, give me a less-tactile home button... :mad:
 
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HEK said:
First line isn't, but rest is either sarcasm or a counter paranoid theory to other plots read here regarding Apple trying to suppress the truth about chip gate by funding opposition testing.
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I have the Samsung chip, aswell as my bf. Nothing is wrong, minimal battery life difference. It lasts me till the end of the day 9am - 9pm. I actually had the gold 6s+ TSCM. But traded out for black, I'm not disappointed at all. Lol. Are you bashing it, or do you think this whole thing is pointless?
 
Jayjew said:
I have the Samsung chip, aswell as my bf. Nothing is wrong, minimal battery life difference. It lasts me till the end of the day 9am - 9pm. I actually had the gold 6s+ TSCM. But traded out for black, I'm not disappointed at all. Lol. Are you bashing it, or do you think this whole thing is pointless?
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Whole thing is pointless. Tempest in a tea pot. All from one test using one phone. If you have a well working phone that lasts all day, all this is nonsense. Enjoy the phone.
 
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Even LinusTechTips would return their iPhone 6s Samsung for a TSMC.... Go to the 18 minute mark where they start talking about chipgate.

 
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dwfaust said:
I have a question: are you anticipating opening the phone, installing one of the apps to identify the chip while in the store and then return it again (or refuse to accept it)?

Again, to simply say that if battery live doesn't matter, keep the Samsung chip is simply spewing misinformation. I do care about battery life, but my Samsung-chipped iPhone 6S Plus is more than adequate to get me through the day. And the latest reports seem to indicate than any difference is marginal and anecdotal, at best.

Do what you need to do, but I have no problem with keeping my phone with the Samsung chip, and in direct opposition your thesis, I DO care about battery life.
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This is so true and I've said it from the beginning. As long as the device you have is getting good battery life and is running good what difference does it make what chip comes in the new iPhone. Enjoy it and by happy you got one.
 
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