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Are you returning your Samsung chip iPhone for a TSMC?
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Courtesy of Apple!
Not a single link or real reference in this so-called article lol
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone-6s-a9-samsung-vs-tsmc,30306.html
For all of the OCD people who rushed to the iPhone store to exchange phones..... A concrete test with proper controls by a reputable source. I am really shaking my head here at people. Instead of jumping on a bandwagon, people should do their own research before jumping off the bridge with the rest of the lemmings. And in reality, would any of these people have known any difference if some third rate tech paper hadn't told them about it?
For all of the OCD people who rushed to the iPhone store to exchange phones..... A concrete test with proper controls by a reputable source. I am really shaking my head here at people. Instead of jumping on a bandwagon, people should do their own research before jumping off the bridge with the rest of the lemmings. And in reality, would any of these people have known any difference if some third rate tech paper hadn't told them about it?
The placebo effect is real, and the power of suggestion is strong in the technically ignorant/illiterate.
insert main stream media meme here.
So I did my own testing with the difference CPU's while at my laboratory(and by laboratory, I mean house
). I had interesting results.The first test I conducted was from a restored backup of my TSMC A9 to my Samsung A9. I was finding a consistent 20-30 percent difference between the two(favoring TSMC) after 3-4 hours of various testing.
I later found an error in my tests. Safari had about 12 tabs in memory for most of the test that I wasn't aware on the Samsung A9, but only 4 tabs on the TSMC A9, so that result was tossed out.
I then restored again from backup and insured all settings an apps where identical, including brightness. Ran through 4 hours of netflix, nfl streaming,safari browsing and gaming. (pretty much the same test as the first run).
I was surprised to find zero difference, silencing my own suspicion.
My biggest question now, is what is it exactly about geekbench which is causing the extra battery draw on the 96mm die? Is it memory load? This will bug me until I understand why.
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These guys are a hoot, they say things, like maybe, not sure, if my memory serves me, etc. keep looking up stuff on net as they present and make off the cuff hip shots about every topic in the video. I especial get warm fuzzy confidence when they talk about sports teams and being a teacher instead of a blogger. If you going to go on representing yourself as some all knowing geek at least be up to date on all the tests done. I can get just as valid opinion by stopping guy on street and asking what he thinks. Not impressed.
Because there are so few chip manufacturers in the world. I always marveled at all the iPhones that have used Samsung chips in the past. They do make a good chip. Majority of Samsung profits are from the chip division.
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How can Apple fix a hardware difference with "software"? Unless they
1. Fudge the battery meter on the TSMC phones to state that they have 2-3% less charge than they really do.
2. Throttle the Samsung phones sooner than needed to preserve battery.
My phone is what seems in great shape. I am very happy about the screen, I can't find a reason to replace it. I am not going to return it because of the Samsung chip
Sometimes the only way to get companies to listen is to talk with your wallet. Since you can't/don't want to return the phone just keep swapping until your satisfied. Apple will not change their return policy because of it. They risk their positive customer satisfaction numbers.
Don't let people talk you out of it. If you're not satisfied then you're not satisfied.
Don't let people talk you out of it. If you're not satisfied then you're not satisfied.
I agree, but I think people are being anal about this particular topic. How many of the "how many?" people that are turning it over and over again are holding the phone in their hand going "OMG, I can just FEEL it, this is the Samsung chip, look at that battery dropping, look at this performance, this is an outrage!" .. yeah.. nobody. They can't even tell unless they use the app. Blind test every single person and dumb luck will let a few people 'guess right' that they got the Samsung in real life daily use. A samsung for a week, the other one for a week, and ask them which one is which. If you guys can find even 25% to accurately notice it time and time again .. I will change my opinion. Until then it's just the placebo effect over something super nitpicky.
Double blind testing is the gold standard for verifying any claim. When people know before tests what they have it raises doubts as to if that knowledge influences the test or experiment. Before finding out what chip you have, people should use their phone and if they have no issues and they like their battery life then this should end it. There have been reports by people that have better battery life after getting a Samsung chipped phone after trading in TSMC chipped phone with other flaw like loose button or screen issues.
Considering the Samsung chip got better test results than the TSMC chip in other test, and both tests showing differences within the margin of error, no. It's a silly overblown non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
But ultimately it's Apple that did this to themselves. They should know by now that Apple users are very picky (myself included). When you hear the big wigs at the Apple events and read the reviews of how good the iPhone is you expect the best for the premium price Apple charges.
So I can't blame someone for swapping the phone out. Me personally I have the TSMC chip but because I get to 10-20% from 6am to 6pm I use a very nice battery case. It more than doubles my battery life and I try to drain the battery for the fun of it. I have complete confidence that my 6S will last over 24 hours of hard use with the case. And the case makes the phone easier to hold and adds nice protection.
It's not like Apple hasn't been using Samsung chips for years. Samsung Mobile is a different division.
I am quite aware of that, like with other parts made by Samsung and used in Apple products. The question was academic. Apple could have partnered with Intel earlier (http://9to5mac.com/2015/10/16/intel-apple-iphone-7/).
Apple may again have Intel chips starting with radio chip in place of or in addition to Qualcomm radio chip they have sourced for ever. Probably for iPhone 7.
Next step will be incorporation of the radio into the main SoC probably with 14 nanometer process by Intel. Probably for iPhone 7s or 8.
This to be followed by 10 nanometer chip process Intel is working on. Most likely for iPhone 8s or 9.
Depending on how things pan out Apple may be back to Intel big time, not using Samsung or TSMC chips.
Depends on which week. This week, I heard the 128GB RG 6+ is the ultimate one to get that guarantees a TSMC chip. Better hurry, though. Next week it could be the 64GB SG 6S.
Threads like this make me wonder if mental hospitals have Internet access for patients
They are starting up outpatient texting therapy. Sort of patterned after macrumor's forums.
Don't generalize. 99.999% of iPhone/Apple users don't care (or know) it's only a few of the geeks that frequent boards like this and others like it that are aware and/or care. Of the 10/20/30(or whatever)million of the iPhones sold in the last month you're probably guessing high if you think .000000001% give a hoot (even if they know about this non-issue).
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