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Are you returning your Samsung chip iPhone for a TSMC?

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I have read the articles, watched the YouTube videos, and read many forum posts on this issue. If I could exchange my Samsung processor iPhone for one with a TSMC processor, I would. However, I cannot be certain that if I go through the time and effort that is usually involved in exchanging a smartphone, I will get an iPhone with the TSMC processor. While the iPhone is expensive, my time is valuable.

The A9 processor issue should not be easily dismissed. I would like to offer two considerations to assess its importance to Apple and consumers.

(1) Can two processors with consistently different benchmarks scores, running temperatures, and sizes that are made by different manufacturers be deemed to be the same Apple A9 processor? It would be interesting to see what a court of law would determine.

(2) If a Sales Associate at an Apple Store gave you a choice between picking an iPhone with a TSMC processor or leaving to chance which processor you get, what would be your response?

From my point of view as a consumer, the Samsung processor and the TSMC processor are two different processors and Apple has been rather disingenuous in pretending they are the same.

If Apple wishes to keep its engineering reputation it should not allow manufacturers so much freedom in interpreting its designs.
 
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Have the Samsung chip in my 6s, works great and gets me through the day easily. ~7 hours screen time and ~14-16 hours standby. Doesn't run hot. Phone is in mint condition. Not risking getting a phone with a real defect over a chip that MAY get me an extra percent or two battery life. If I'm that low on juice I will have my portable charging stick with me, also I would imagine most power users have a charging bank. I'll be keeping mine. Great job on the chips both TSMC and Samsung they both scream.
 
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ipooed said:
It doesn't matter, I paid a pretty big lump sum to have the newest and greatest! Not to have a 2-3% less than someone who paid the same price I did!

This is why we Apple users are called "sheep" as soon as Apple releases a statement people bow down and say yes Apple, I am sorry I went against you Apple.

Not me as I said I paid a premium to have the best out there not a 2-3% difference in performance!

I called Apple a little bit ago and spoke to a senior rep named Renee, and told her she has 2 choices (bluntly) either I get my phone exchanged or I get something for free, worth about $40 as that would have been the 3% difference in price compared to what I paid versus the TSMC chip. She told me she was in aware of the issue and couldn't find apples "statement" anywhere on her system. I told her if she didn't comply I was going to the local Apple Store at the busiest time of day and making a "huge"scene I don't care if I looked like an idiot, I'd do pretty much anything for 1,200.00 Canadian dollars.

She complied and issued me a replacement


And for those who claim "it's so small of a difference" don't worry about it idiot. That's how it starts keep giving Apple an inch and they will eventually take a mile. They got away with bendgate (cause the issued a statement, and Apple users bowed down to the master) they are trying to do the same thing with "chipgate" almost like purposely seeing how much the "sheep" will take before they have had enough.
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No sarcasm font?
 
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Nolander07 said:
I do not believe Apple ever said or will ever say that one processor is better or worse than the other regarding battery life ( at least not publicly).
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Why would they?? They may as well throw money off the rooftops if they were dumb enough to say that. All sorts of lawyers would go after any such statement.
 
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netnative said:
From my point of view as a consumer, the Samsung processor and the TSMC processor are two different processors and Apple has been rather disingenuous in pretending they are the same.
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I agree. I have the Samsung chip... I won't be returning it due to the reason of being undetermined whether I'll get the TSMC chip. But then, as one member pointed out... They were able to produce more iPhones this time around being able to use two different chips. If Apple had were to only use the TSMC chips... would they be able to produce this amount of iPhones at the scale that they have this year.

So, if a customer had to choose waiting 2 to 3 weeks or buying the Samsung chip for the 2 to 3 % difference while mentioning negligible real world usage... I would think customers would go for the Samsung chip instead of waiting.
 
I do have Samsung chip powering my 6s but I will definitely keep it.
As someone mentioned above you can never be sure what chip you get if you return it and (even more important!) what other 'glitch' the replacement iPhone might have. In the end you will end up exchanging and exchanging to get some extra % at the end of the day.
Not to forget my 6s is in MINT condition, no dead pixels, no bleeding on screen, no scratches, nothing!

To be honest: Usually I am at around 20% (+/- 5%) when I go to bed in the evening. I do charge my phone every night, regardless if I have 10%, 20% or 30% left - neither is enough to get me through the next day, so what! :rolleyes:
 
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Ludatyk said:
So, if a customer had to choose waiting 2 to 3 weeks or buying the Samsung chip for the 2 to 3 % difference while mentioning negligible real world usage... I would think customers would go for the Samsung chip instead of waiting.
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It might be true that most users would not notice, but Apple's claim that the difference in battery duration among the two processors is statistically negligible is not supported by the usage tests that I have seen on websites and YouTube --and I am not referring to Geekbench scores.

It seems that someone in Apple said something like this: Yeah, that's right..., but let's go ahead. Given the way most people use their iPhones, they will not notice. And those who do will have very little choice. It is not as if they are going to return their iPhones for Samsungs." And perhaps it was followed by a chuckle. If that is in anyway representative of how the decision was made, it would reflect very little regard for customers.
 
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Found out about this chipgate yesterday. Before this, I noticed a few times my phone was running hot. I had to turn it off so it would cool down. I also noticed my battery life was not as good after a day of use. I blamed this on the newness of the 6s and more use. I don't think I'll exchange my phone. My time is valuable and I guess the last day to return is today if you bought it on the first day. If the temperature problems continue, I will take it in regardless of being outside the 14 day return window.
 
Cobold said:
I do have Samsung chip powering my 6s but I will definitely keep it.
As someone mentioned above you can never be sure what chip you get if you return it and (even more important!) what other 'glitch' the replacement iPhone might have. In the end you will end up exchanging and exchanging to get some extra % at the end of the day.
Not to forget my 6s is in MINT condition, no dead pixels, no bleeding on screen, no scratches, nothing!

To be honest: Usually I am at around 20% (+/- 5%) when I go to bed in the evening. I do charge my phone every night, regardless if I have 10%, 20% or 30% left - neither is enough to get me through the next day, so what! :rolleyes:
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My feeling as well. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
At this point I could care less what the phone benchmarks because I'm using it how I'm going to be using it and getting over ten hours of screen usage. Also on geekbench's site the Galaxy s6 scores better on the battery benchmark than the 6 plus....I know for a fact having owned both that the battery on the gs6 isn't beating the 6 plus in any regard so how does that happen?
 
macfoxpro said:
Has or does anyone plan on returning your Samsung chip iPhone 6S/Plus?
For most of us, the 14 day return limit is tomorrow (Friday).
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Nope! I wouldn't risk getting a yellow screen, dead pixels, other defects, etc etc..

I'm also happy with my battery life which lasts me all day and into the evening.
 
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Got my sim-free model 6S Plus today, has Samsung Chip. Do I care? Not really, as long it works. And it's perfect in every aspect, no pressure point, no yellow tints, no dead/stuck pixels. Not worth going to exchange just for the TSMC. I've noticed that few of my previous 6S Plus was TSMC and had a book spine issue.
 
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I can see the possibility if you have a 6s since it has a shorter lasting battery and you have 80 percent chance of getting a tmsc. Also they are in stock. With the plus it's far more complicated. 60 percent are Samsung and trying to find the one you have in stock is almost impossible. I recommend if you have the Plus with a Samsung to swap it for the 6S. Yes you will have shorter battery life but you can sleep at night knowing you have the Tmsc chip. Your friends will think you are cooler and you can brag about it on the forum.

In all seriousness 2 things will most likely happen here:

1) After more real world usage testing it is determined there is no noticeable difference and this will slowly blow over.
2) After more real world usage testing it is proven the that Samsungs last significantly less then the other model. If this is the case, Apple's statement will be false and most likely legal action will be taken against the company.

Good luck everyone.
 
richard371 said:
I can see the possibility if you have a 6s since it has a shorter lasting battery and you have 80 percent chance of getting a tmsc. Also they are in stock. With the plus it's far more complicated. 60 percent are Samsung and trying to find the one you have in stock is almost impossible. I recommend if you have the Plus with a Samsung to swap it for the 6S. Yes you will have shorter battery life but you can sleep at night knowing you have the Tmsc chip. Your friends will think you are cooler and you can brag about it on the forum.

In all seriousness 2 things will most likely happen here:

1) After more real world usage testing it is determined there is no noticeable difference and this will slowly blow over.
2) After more real world usage testing it is proven the that Samsungs last significantly less then the other model. If this is the case, Apple's statement will be false and most likely legal action will be taken against the company.

Good luck everyone.
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Or 3) they'll add to an OS update something to scale back the TSMC chip 1-2% since the whiners and "mom he got more' crowd is childish at best.
 
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Keeping mine everything's good on it. It's a Samsung chip, but the it's ballin out on iOS 9.1 beta 4
 

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netnative said:
It might be true that most users would not notice, but Apple's claim that the difference in battery duration among the two processors is statistically negligible is not supported by the usage tests that I have seen on websites and YouTube --and I am not referring to Geekbench scores.
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I've seen the test of TLD & Austin... but IMO the average user will not be using their iPhones in those types of test YouTube creators performed. Of course, Apple is going to debunk the claims of these test performed by YouTube folks. Even then with the bendgate situation... Apple dismissed those claims as well. I mean, at this point we hold Apple to such a extremely high regard... And, I'm sure Apple believes it should be held to those standards.

But certain situations do happen from time to time. And, although I understand Apple position trying to produce as many phones as possible. It doesn't make it right to produce two different chips giving two different performances.
 
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Yes, but I need to actually buy an iPhone 6s first.

So I'm still going to after I get one but wait what if I get a Samsung one first, I'm going to have to return it to get an TSMC one first so I can have the excuse to actually return it to get a Samsung one so then I can rant on this thread even more and the plan does work not so what....
 
With this lottery there is no way I would exchange mine. Id buy another out right, compare the 2 and keep the best one.
 
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I think if any future iOS update does happen regarding this so called 'chipgate' saga it will be to increase battery life somehow... Can you imagine how pi**ed off people would be if Apple made the TSMC less efficient to be more in line with the Samsung chip!! That would be a big no no.... o_O
 
macfoxpro said:
Has or does anyone plan on returning your Samsung chip iPhone 6S/Plus?
For most of us, the 14 day return limit is tomorrow (Friday).
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The OP is not wrong here to ask this. I would say wanting to return a phone that's 3% worse than other models without a 3% discount on the price is fair. On the other hand, I would say..who cares? It's not like you won't be getting iPhone 7 in a few months anyway. In johns YouTube video the Samsung exported video faster anyway.
 
Apple did not say the Samsung chip is 2-3% less then the other. It stated that there could be a 2-3 percent difference even between 2 phones with identical chips.
 
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