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Arguments and compromises every Hardcore apple fan will make tomorrow.. I'll start
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Here's mine....
I like iPhone. Hey, there's a new iPhone. I want it. <pays money> Ok, now I own it. Yay!
The data for your card is stored on your phone.
Your phone can be compromised by being remotely accessed, like your computer, without your permission.
The only way you could be compromised a credit card is if you deal with a shady merchant, online store, or someone physically takes possession of your credit card.
Not sure how this isn't easy to comprehend.
I never cared about this feature until I started using the GS3... It is nice to be able to glance at my phone and see I missed a message without having to click a button and look at the screen. It's one of those features I didn't know I wanted until I got to use it. Like my car's heated steering wheel, such a great feature I never knew I wanted...
A lot of things I have heard about contactless payments could easily be untrue, but since I do not need it, I have never bothered with it.
Since my phone is on a network constantly in one way or another, I am sure a hacker could find away to access my phone while it is in my pocket and steal all of my credit card info off of my phone. This is more likely then my wallet being stolen.
With all of the information that is already supposedly being tracked and recorded off our phones, look at the Carrier IQ situation... It is just not a risk I am willing to take.
Yup. That's what I do not like.
That's why I only use PayPal and Temp Credit Card Numbers when buying stuff online.
This is a thread about arguments/excuses
The "top one" in the quote was "NFC isn't secure"
So, if NFC isn't added tomorrow, we'll see that argument, that's what I meant
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The data for your card is stored on your phone.
Your phone can be compromised by being remotely accessed, like your computer, without your permission.
The only way you could be compromised a credit card is if you deal with a shady merchant, online store, or someone physically takes possession of your credit card.
Not sure how this isn't easy to comprehend.
I understand you can, in theory, break into the phone.
But, do you think the card data is just sitting there? It's encrypted...that stuff is not easy to break. All your passwords are on your phone too, but you're not concerned, because they're encrypted. So what if someone gets ahold of my card number remotely? All they'll have is 8hhfak82881jdkkei, not an actual card number.
Also, iPhones don't just get broken into remotely that easily you know...you probably have a better chance of getting your CC physically stolen than you do of someone remotely getting (even the encrypted version) from your phone. Unless you're jailbroken that is
I agree with this, but for the sake of being "light-hearted"....
NFC isn't really used much in my area anyway. Most of the terminals I come across are disabled or broken.
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To be fair, we don't know that yet.
- we didn't get NFC because it's old technology. Apple is only protecting us from dinosaurs. See Flash and MMS.
- what, no facial/fingerprint recognition technology? Even my flip phone has this!
I've grown so tired of the 4S and it's teeny tiny little screen and huge thickness that I need something with a much taller screen that is thinner.
I also don't like the glass back because it breaks every day and the camera placement on the front needs to be centered.
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Truth be told I'm 100% happy with my 4S except for 2 things:
1. Lack of 4G LTE
2. I have a 16 GB phone and a 64 GB lifestyle (I said it first).
the new iPhone gives me an opportunity to remedy both things.
I also don't like the glass back because it breaks every day and the camera placement on the front needs to be centered.
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Truth be told I'm 100% happy with my 4S except for 2 things:
1. Lack of 4G LTE
2. I have a 16 GB phone and a 64 GB lifestyle (I said it first).
the new iPhone gives me an opportunity to remedy both things.
A good point, but more and more hackers will be trying to break into phones if NFC really takes off.
Yup, I worked at Best Buy while I was in college, and all the terminals had contactless payment on them, but they were never turned on or they were all broken...
I had a 32 GB 4S... It turned out to not be enough either. I will be getting a 64 GB iPhone this time as well.
I can't stand being told to delete stuff when I try to take a picture or download something.
With they hype built up they'll do nothing right. Yet they'll sell millions and it will be the biggest selling Apple product of all time!
The only compromise I'll make with Apple is 16GB still being the base model. But I have a 90GB music library, so even if 64 was the base, it still wouldn't be enough. But really, 16 has been the base model since 2009.
With AT&T, the compromise will be staying with them when they don't have LTE in my area yet and Verizon does.
With AT&T, the compromise will be staying with them when they don't have LTE in my area yet and Verizon does.
Probably right on all of them. I personally thought the black 2-toned back looked nice.
But I'll take a stand here and say we won't see a 2-toned back.
Everyone has some degree of cognitive dissonance with their phone, whether they own an android or iphone.
With regards to nfc: if it becomes widespread, there will be someone out there with a nfc scanner to steal your information. They do this with rfid now and it's not pretty. I'm not putting my financial information on my phone and I wonder about people who have no issues with it.
It wasn't a joke until you changed the title to hardcore apple fan.
With regards to nfc: if it becomes widespread, there will be someone out there with a nfc scanner to steal your information. They do this with rfid now and it's not pretty. I'm not putting my financial information on my phone and I wonder about people who have no issues with it.
It wasn't a joke until you changed the title to hardcore apple fan.
but that's the beauty of NFC. It doesn't matter.
When you hear about identity theft, credit card hacking, etc...it all happens during the process of inputting payment information, or because they hacked an archaic (unencrypted) database. With keyboard CC info input, the number has to be unencrypted at some point along the way. The number has to be input by the user, and until the software can encrypt it, it's vulnerable. That's where information gets stolen (skimmers, fake websites, etc).
With NFC, you input your data once, and then it's stored, encrypted, on your phone. It's passed, encrypted, to the machine (only by physical contact is this initiated, too). Then, it's checked for validity, also encrypted. It's never unencrypted somewhere that a hacker could steal it. And without the encryption data used (salt, etc), the hacker is never unencrypting that number.
Of course, all this is making assumptions about how the system is implemented, but it's a pretty safe bet the coders working on NFC software aren't passing unencrypted numbers around all over the place
I don't doubt what you are saying, but it is one of the features I will sit back to wait and see if anything unfolds that is unfavorable. Then, if there isn't any Antenna-Gate or Carrier IQ type of situation, I will jump on board.
It will probably be like the heated steering wheel in my car, I never thought I needed it, I wouldn't have picked it as a feature I want either... But since it came with some of the other features I wanted, I had to get it. After using it that first winter... I will attempt to have it in every car I buy from now on if I am still living somewhere where I would want it.
So until I use it, I don't need/want it.
You mean the hype they built up by not talking about a new iPhone and even now still not directly addressing it? The hype is built by people like us.
Watching from heaven as the "stupid liar" Tim Cook takes the stock value to over double what it was when Mr. Jobs died.
Tim Cook is doing just fine.
Heated steering wheel
And here I thought I was content with just heated seats. Winter driving would be so much better if I had a heated steering wheel (currently I use a dedicated pair of leather gloves when driving in the winter). Looks like I know what'll be one of the features in my next car.