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Ashlee Simpson Lip-Sync mess up
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Is there a good technical reason why "artists" do this sync stuff? Or are they just a bunch of no-talent asshats like I suspect they are?
not to defend ashleeeeeeee...but
obviously the drummer f'd up and started the wrong sequence but why oh why didn't the band just stop and restart the correct song? it certainly couldn't have been any worse... so unprofessional not to have an established back-up plan because this stuff does happen...dancing a jig isn't really a plan in my book. and slumping off stage is just plain wrong.
i'm very much against lip synching and pretty much the whole crappy cut and paste auto-tune music world we live in( and i work in...) but there are really 2 issues going on here: lip synching AND a major band screw-up.
that drummer will be back working at guitar center on monday...and sadly, ashlee and all the other semi-vocalsts will still have careers.
fwiw, a friend of mine produced another of the current young-no-talent-pop-divas and almost lost his mind trying to make her vox sound at least kinda-believable. her album's already gone platinum...go figure.
obviously the drummer f'd up and started the wrong sequence but why oh why didn't the band just stop and restart the correct song? it certainly couldn't have been any worse... so unprofessional not to have an established back-up plan because this stuff does happen...dancing a jig isn't really a plan in my book. and slumping off stage is just plain wrong.
i'm very much against lip synching and pretty much the whole crappy cut and paste auto-tune music world we live in( and i work in...) but there are really 2 issues going on here: lip synching AND a major band screw-up.
that drummer will be back working at guitar center on monday...and sadly, ashlee and all the other semi-vocalsts will still have careers.
fwiw, a friend of mine produced another of the current young-no-talent-pop-divas and almost lost his mind trying to make her vox sound at least kinda-believable. her album's already gone platinum...go figure.
Apple Hobo said:
As far as the "diva" thing is concerned, this is for the most part accurate. Like or don't like her (I don't), Christina Aguliera is super talented.
Spears is probably the worst, imho.
As a young musician(22), I think the whole pop scene is terribly lame. Just too contrived and formulaic to say anything of substance. There are som really, really great bands out there, but Ashlee Simpson, a lip syncher, gets the SNL gigs.
cr2sh said:
No one's put the onus on the band.
Perhaps their "performance" was on a tape track also.
It looked like the band was actually playing, they started playing and the tape of a good singer got screwed up. If the band stopped, and started playing the correct song - there would be no way of knowing if the tape was in the correct position. So what then? Would she just stand there and embarace herself more by not "singing"? And if the tape was in the wrong place again, what would be her excuse?
I dunno.. that's just the way it looked to me.
I dunno.. that's just the way it looked to me.
Mike Teezie said:
Yeah, I think a lot of pop stars get a bad rap that they don't deserve.
Does Ashlee Simpson deserve all the comments about having no talent? Yes.
Does Christina Aguilera? No. Does Mariah Carey? No.
Does Brittney Spears? Kind of. She is a great performer, whether you like to admit it or not. She has talent at not only dancing, but at entertaining. She can put on a show, and that's what she does. Talented at singing? No. However if you look at the tapes Brittney sent to Jive records to get her record deal, she didn't sound half-bad. I think she should quit lip syncing personally, on non-dance tracks at least.
But, anyways, the pop scene is full of talent. The music may not be that good, but the singing can be (Christina, Mariah, Jessica, and even Jojo at the tender age of 13
), and the entertainment value is always high.scem0
The west coast feed of SNL cut out the audio slip up. They just made it look like she was confused about the song.
scem0 said:
This I have to disagree with. On "behind the music" or some such show on Britany they showed some of her perfomances on Star Search and other talent shows and the girl has some pipes. She just doesn't use them for the forgetable, pop crap that she sings.
pseudobrit,
I doubt the band's performance was taped for 2 reasons. 1. It doesn't make sense to have the band and the vox on two seperate recordings (it would making syncing that much harder) and 2. it's not like that thoughtless pop crap is technically difficult in any way.
I'm actually surprised that the whole thing just wasn't taped, instead of just the vocals. Seems like playing back the entire song would be eaiser than playing back the vocals as the band plays live.
Lethal
Yeah i was a little confused on why everyone said she screwed up.... i thought they were doing one of those right before comercial cuts like they used to do on the old epiosodes (you know they would show the band playing and slap the SNL logo in the corner)zyuzin4 said:
ha but those videos make me laugh... she apoligied for the band but really she should be apoligizing for the audio guy playing the "wrong" song...
and the band laughing... i think they was more embarrased then humored
OK, now I'm mad. Blame Ashlee. Blame the band. Blame SNL. But don't blame the computer. Computers do what they are told!
From ABC entertainment news:
From ABC entertainment news:
The sad thing is that the details you give aren't enough to pin down the "artist". Hmmm. Female. Young. No talent. Platinum. I have an idea who it might be. If I'm right, this person has also acted in film. Sadly, that too - if true - doesn't narrow down the list much.3rdpath said:
It definitely was taped at first, the first bar or two had synth only (who knows with the drums, but those are a little bit harder to fake). The band does start in for real after the singer's face drops, you can hear that they're just slightly out of tune and the timing is shaky at first. That much is expected, modern pop has too many layers for a normal quartet to play live.pseudobrit said:
The vocal track was the odd part. That wasn't some backing harmony, but the lead part. With headphones it's all there right up until the chorus (they drop the volume right away, but don't shut it off). She was wearing a wire, so it seems a little silly to say that was a cue!
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I remember years ago when I used to watch this stuff, that the B-52s were on, they flubbed a bit (especially tough since they did a lot of the call-and-response thing in those days), but winged it and came off fine. Edie Brickell was totally out of things the first time she appeared, lost her place but worked with the mistake. You knew there was a screw-up but again, she recovered.
And here's the best one, how Elvis Costello handled the wrong song (audio file is corrupted though)
No, it was something showing a scene from that. Like the Daily Show or something. Where the guy is talking, then cuts to a clip of her sucking, then cuts back to the guy making fun of her sucking.deral said:
Upon watching the undoctored clip, it looks much worse for her. The band was fine, until someone played the wrong vocals. I guess they didn't know what to do, so they just played the music. Really a Milli-Vanilli type of situation. On the first song, it did sound like there was an echo. I figured she had backup, or a recording of her voice backing her up, but it sounded more like the recording was the lead vocals. It's not even like it's a hard song.
If the band new she was really going to sing, why did they change to the other song? They must have known, and wanted to switch songs in case the recording started singing the lyrics. Very embarrassing.
She's no Christina (though unfortunetly, right now, neither is Christina).
Durandal7 said:
I'm really happy to see this. Maybe SNL will invite artists who can actually perform!
p.s. if you're avatar is what I think it is--hilarious!
Upon listening to it, I don't think the band messed up, I think somebody in charge of playing the cue music f'ed up. The backup music was supposed to sync everybody up, it was too soft to be used as the actual music. And it sounds like the drums/bass started to play something else, and then you could hear one by one the other instruments come in and play the song that started to play. She should have stopped them though, and the guitars should have played a mad solo or something to transition to the real one.
jared_kipe said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
the backup band playing a 'mad solo'!?!?!?!?!?!
It wasn't a Clapton concert or something. Give me a BREAK!
scem0 said:Yeah, I think a lot of pop stars get a bad rap that they don't deserve.
Does Ashlee Simpson deserve all the comments about having no talent? Yes.
Does Christina Aguilera? No. Does Mariah Carey? No.
Does Brittney Spears? Kind of. She is a great performer, whether you like to admit it or not. She has talent at not only dancing, but at entertaining. She can put on a show, and that's what she does. Talented at singing? No. However if you look at the tapes Brittney sent to Jive records to get her record deal, she didn't sound half-bad. I think she should quit lip syncing personally, on non-dance tracks at least.
But, anyways, the pop scene is full of talent. The music may not be that good, but the singing can be (Christina, Mariah, Jessica, and even Jojo at the tender age of 13
scem0
Whether or not she is entertaining, is in the eye of the beholder. I think she is one of the hottest girls alive, and yet I can't stand to watch/listen to her "music" for more than a few seconds without sceaming in agony.
I am much more entertained by a good rock band. For instance, seeing Radiohead live was the most amazing musical experience of my life.
THAT'S entertaining.
But like I said, its all in the eye/ear of the beholder.