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Asiana Flight 214
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And straight to McDonalds's for the rest of his career flipping burgers......
What was the intern thinking?
forbes reported on the KTVU mistake, while making their own mistake by misspelling KTVU as KTUV. Forbes later updated the news story to apologize for the mistake.
By the way, I apologise for spelling it forbes. I should have spelled in Forbes with a capital F. And I apologize for misspellling apologize.
By the way, I apologise for spelling it forbes. I should have spelled in Forbes with a capital F. And I apologize for misspellling apologize.
I'm sorry, this accident is not funny, but that was. I laughed out loud. I can't believe that the station personnel did not call BS before airing it.
I doubt the laser thing too as a cause for this crash - but those who are going on about the speed of a plane landing are assuming someone is shining a laser sideways, not in front of the plane. While the plane is travelling fast horizontally, it isn't vertically, so you could easily aim and hit the cockpit at some point if you were standing far in front of the plane - if your aim is constantly moving, you'll likely cross the pilot's field of view at some point.
Probably because it was breaking news and they just put it straight onto the autocue.
Probably because it was breaking news and they just put it straight onto the autocue.
If your intent was to do this, you'd have to be located in just about any location forward of the aircraft wings when the attempt is made.
This has nothing to do with the accident, but thought I'd mention it. In the fictional novel Debt of Honor, a weapon is used to blind AWAC pilots during landing causing them to crash. Yes it's fiction, but if Clancy wrote it, there's a good chance something like this is floating around in the military arsenal. He was the guy who wrote about Stealth Fighters in Red Storm Rising. At the time I was in the USN with a top secret clearance and I remember thinking, yeah right...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...tv-over-broadcast-of-racist-fake-pilot-names/
How does this news story hurt their reputation more than pilots not knowing how to land the plane? Asiana should be more worried about their untrained pilots before going off suing news stations.
Thanks for the update, however (from the article):
While San Francisco Police confirmed the teen had been struck, they were still awaiting word from the coroner as to if she was already deceased at the time the fire truck hit her in the tall grass and fire-fighting foam of the field in-between runways where Flight 214 came to rest.
"When the fire truck repositioned itself to continue battling flames from the fuselage, the victim passenger was found in the tire track of the fire truck," police spokesman Albie Esparza said
"When the fire truck repositioned itself to continue battling flames from the fuselage, the victim passenger was found in the tire track of the fire truck," police spokesman Albie Esparza said
And when I posted my "FTFY", it was 11 July, while the article you link has a dateline of 12 July. So at the time I posted, it was unconfirmed. Just as right now, it is unconfirmed if she died from being hit by the truck, or whether she was already dead when hit.
I'm wondering how tall this "tall grass" was, and whether it posed (or continues to pose) a rescue safety hazard if people are ejected from an aircraft. In other words, was this situation avoidable if the grass was lower, or did foam and other stuff obscure the vision of the firefighters? I realize there's an investigation, but I'm still curious.
Accidents like this are so rare it's statistically amazing. If I was going to Asia or Asiana offered discount tickets, I certainly wouldn't be afraid to use them.
No more worrying about Asiana Flight 214.
Asiana Airlines is renumbering their flights, so Flight 213 from San Francisco to Seoul and Flight 214 from Seoul to San Francisco are now going to be known as Flight 211 and Flight 212, respectively.
In sports you have your number retired when something good happens. With bad publicity it's the opposite.
Asiana Airlines is renumbering their flights, so Flight 213 from San Francisco to Seoul and Flight 214 from Seoul to San Francisco are now going to be known as Flight 211 and Flight 212, respectively.
In sports you have your number retired when something good happens. With bad publicity it's the opposite.
Agreed. Which is why you'll never see UAL93, AAL175, AAL587, CAL611, or AFR447 ever again.
BL.
I don't believe you understood the point he was making.
Sports: Good things happen and number is retired (good, as in a good player).
Aviation: Bad things happen and number is retired (bad, as in a bad plane crash).
Get it now?
Michael
I actually called this at home, with one witness, after the basic details were know: observers were reluctant to correct a superior, a cultural thing.
Not the best pilots either, from reading some professional pilot sites. A Korean-American pilot trainer was actually jailed briefly in Korea for flunking a Korean flight crew he was training.
Not the best pilots either, from reading some professional pilot sites. A Korean-American pilot trainer was actually jailed briefly in Korea for flunking a Korean flight crew he was training.
18 years ago, I was on UAL841 from LAX-AKL-MEL, and UAL842 on the return run, MEL-AKL-LAX.
That route ended in 2004, and subsequently, those numbers were retired.
As of today, they brought back those numbers, and are domestic runs.
Normally, the flight numbers are retired when there is a crash or incident, and a fatality is noted. But not always..
Cases in point: SWA1248 overran runway 31C at KMDW, and ended up killing a 6 year old child on the ground. That flight number is still being used.
SWA1763 had a guy break through the cockpit doors, but died as a result of being restrained.. That flight number is now making Houston-Atlanta runs.
SWA1455 had a complete hull loss after overrunning runway 8 at KBUR and stopped about 20 - 50ft short of a gas station. Complete hull loss. That flight number is making LAX-Vegas runs.
So it may be hull loss plus fatality that causes the flight to be retired. But sometimes, just ending a route may be enough to do it in itself.
BL.
Maybe you didn't understand the point that I was making. What you are pointing out is doing the same thing, just for opposite reasons. Do you get it now or do you need me to simplify it more?
