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Aside from Signal Issue, Consumer Reports Rates iPhone 4 Highest Amongst All Smartphones
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Compare it with battery life of an HTC evo or a Nexus One and you can understand the rating
BTW it's just ridiculous how KnightWrx and his friends basically storms on every single thread regarding iPhone 4 speaking about the reception issue.
This thread is about CR rate of the iPhone 4, but they HAVE TO remind us about the antenna.
It's like a Mission ...
They HAVE TO save the World from Evil iPhone ...
+1 Yeah Certain people do storm in each thread and have to do that. He/she who shall not be named is really earning their troll points.
Compare it with battery life of an HTC evo or a Nexus One and you can understand the rating
BTW it's just ridiculous how KnightWrx and his friends basically storms on every single thread regarding iPhone 4 speaking about the reception issue.
This thread is about CR rate of the iPhone 4, but they HAVE TO remind us about the antenna.
It's like a Mission ...
They HAVE TO save the World from Evil iPhone ...
This is not about the iPhone 4 anymore. I truely believe that this is a paid attempt by another company. I have four ip4's and none of them have bad reception. I can't believe this deceptive rumor is still working.
Well cgurr1 I "care to reply" because I just felt like it, and why shouldn't I? I just wanted to understand why some people are responding like it's so personal to them and matters SO much they feel the need to attack, and also its good that we get all perspectives voiced, is it not?
I have to say cgurr1 I don't understand (forgive me and please don't think I am wanting to start a fight, I really don't) what you mean by "When you buy something that doesn't work as it is intended then you should be able to take that back for an EXCHANGE not a refund." that from my perspective seems totally unreasonable, if all the iPhones exhibit the same behaviour and Apple haven't been able to remedy it yet then HOW can they offer an exchange????
You say "But the fact is, they ****ed up." OK well so what? I am sure we all have or will ****ed up at some time, I know I have, if you haven't then you have that to look forward to, it can be one of the most positive things in your life if you allow it to be, the thing is some **** ups don't cause anyone any harm, they might cause a little bit of disappointment to some, and mean getting a different phone or getting a case or holding it a little differently but it's not that big a blow to our lives, So my confusion is why so much personal attacks and anguish, and in some cases outright craziness? especially when its easy to just take it back to the shop.
The iPhone4 changes everything, again... because now Apple want you to change the way you hold you phone, silly humans getting used to holding a phone one way 
You bought all those expensive items because a magazine told you to??? Seriously, I'm not sure how smart YOU are, lol!
+1 for Proximity Sensor making iPhone 4 unusable as a phone
I am giving Apple until Thursday to come clean regarding the proximity sensor problem and tell us how and when they will fix it. Otherwise, I will be headed to Verizon for the Droid X. I will carry my old iPod Touch with me when I really need to access iTunes apps. If I really want to, I can pay $20/month to Verizon and use the Droid X as a MiFi for the iPod Touch. It'll have 3G in a ton more places than AT&T ever has.
Last night, I was in "automated hell", and I kept confusing the system because I would press the option I wanted and then I'd put the phone up to my ear and my cheek would press another option. Sure, I can close out of the call screen and load up a picture on the phone to prevent that from happening, but the fact that I'm forced to do that in order to talk on a $600 phone is asinine.
The phone looks great, it has a fantastic camera, and it's fast. However, it makes no sense to carry the thing as a cell phone if I can't use it reliably as a phone without hanging up on people, muting myself, putting calls on speaker, or conferencing in third parties from my contact list with my cheek. I need a real phone. If I can't have a device that has all the features of iPhone 4 and works fantastically as a phone as well, I'd rather carry something that functioned fantastically as a phone, had an OK camera, and didn't look great but was built to last. After all, I have a great digital camera if I want to take high quality pictures. The one thing I don't have right now that I need is a reliable phone.
I am responding no differently to Apple than I would to any other company who produced a faulty product that I couldn't use and refused to admit it or provide a fix within my return window. It makes no sense for me to exchange the phone because thousands of people have said on here and on Apple's discussion board that they are on their third, fourth, fifth iPhone 4 and they all exhibit the same problem with the proximity sensor. I'm not playing the replacement game with those odds.
The sad thing is that this was the first Apple product I've ever gotten my hands on right on launch day. I was anticipating June 24th and was looking forward to using my new iPhone 4. I will most likely be sitting out Apple launch days for a long time to come now if this is what one gets for being an "early adopter" of Apple products. Apple left a bad taste in my mouth with iPhone 4 that I won't soon forget.
I am giving Apple until Thursday to come clean regarding the proximity sensor problem and tell us how and when they will fix it. Otherwise, I will be headed to Verizon for the Droid X. I will carry my old iPod Touch with me when I really need to access iTunes apps. If I really want to, I can pay $20/month to Verizon and use the Droid X as a MiFi for the iPod Touch. It'll have 3G in a ton more places than AT&T ever has.
Last night, I was in "automated hell", and I kept confusing the system because I would press the option I wanted and then I'd put the phone up to my ear and my cheek would press another option. Sure, I can close out of the call screen and load up a picture on the phone to prevent that from happening, but the fact that I'm forced to do that in order to talk on a $600 phone is asinine.
The phone looks great, it has a fantastic camera, and it's fast. However, it makes no sense to carry the thing as a cell phone if I can't use it reliably as a phone without hanging up on people, muting myself, putting calls on speaker, or conferencing in third parties from my contact list with my cheek. I need a real phone. If I can't have a device that has all the features of iPhone 4 and works fantastically as a phone as well, I'd rather carry something that functioned fantastically as a phone, had an OK camera, and didn't look great but was built to last. After all, I have a great digital camera if I want to take high quality pictures. The one thing I don't have right now that I need is a reliable phone.
I am responding no differently to Apple than I would to any other company who produced a faulty product that I couldn't use and refused to admit it or provide a fix within my return window. It makes no sense for me to exchange the phone because thousands of people have said on here and on Apple's discussion board that they are on their third, fourth, fifth iPhone 4 and they all exhibit the same problem with the proximity sensor. I'm not playing the replacement game with those odds.
The sad thing is that this was the first Apple product I've ever gotten my hands on right on launch day. I was anticipating June 24th and was looking forward to using my new iPhone 4. I will most likely be sitting out Apple launch days for a long time to come now if this is what one gets for being an "early adopter" of Apple products. Apple left a bad taste in my mouth with iPhone 4 that I won't soon forget.
actually, most people do NOT use cases. where do u get your statistics? And NO, you can't solve an antenna interference issue with insulation (case, tape, etc.) - that is an urban legend that presupposes this is an issue of electrical "bridging" or conductivity, which it is NOT. That's not how antennas work. Now, body parts covering the antenna WILL interfere with signal, but that's always been the case.
Consumer Reports knows a little about a lot of things and not much about anything.
So they rate it fantastic or utterly fantastic is every category except voice quality, which they rate average.
And that motivates them to not recommend the unit?
How much did Google pay them to say that?
And that motivates them to not recommend the unit?
How much did Google pay them to say that?
As is typical of the internets, another unsupported claim. "various independent technical experts" and "beyond a shadow of a doubt", huh?
First of all, bloggers and youtube denizens don't necessarily qualify as "technical experts." Secondly, there have been NO thorough independent SCIENTIFIC tests that I have seen. There have been some anecdotal reports based on limited subjective "tests," but no thorough quantitative testing with extensive signal strength analysis, data rate comparisons, etc. Then there is the matter of commonality amongst ALL cell phones. Signal degradation has ALWAYS been possible when blocking cell phone antennas - go ahead, wrap your hand tightly around the antenna location of any cell phone - you can decrease signal strength. So the next step in a SCIENTIFIC study would be to evaluate the results of a thorough iPhone4 test against similar tests of as many other cell phone models as possible.
Could there be a defect in the iPhone4 antenna? Maybe. But no one has come close to proving it.
You are simply delusional.
Apple is a media darling. The media fawn over Apple. Everything Apple does is widely covered in the media, from Apple's developer conference to the introduction of a new product from Apple.
So, no, the media aren't and haven't been trying to "diminish" Apple. If you feel disappointed in Apple, it's not the media's fault. The media are simply covering this Apple bit of Apple news in the same way that they cover all bits of Apple news. Extensively. Perhaps even excessively. It's just that this news doesn't happen to be good. But the amount of coverage is about the same.
As stated, because you're not affected doesn't mean your unit doesn't have the problem. People in strong signal areas don't see the problem. Neither do people with a bumper.
If you have proof, post it up as a video, again, if it is a manufacturing issue, people and the media want to know. As it is, in 2 weeks, such evidence was never presented.
See what I am saying if this guy bought a bumper and he still getting dropped signals then he needs to return his phone! He has a defective phone!
Why can not people realize this?
Because people want to believe that any product
comes out with is "perfect" and "genius". It's a bit of cognitive dissonance at work.It is a bit disgusting to see tech media fawning over
and not giving the real coverage of other devices like Android. Or some objective reporting on Windows Phone 7.
Perhaps you meant:
Popularity ≠ quality product.
Same here, which leads me to believe that the problems may be due to additional variables:
• possible variance in how each individual affects conductivity.
• possible manufacturing defect affecting certain shipments which are missing non-conductive coating.
in addition to:
• a software issue which processes one frequency of the 950/1800 Mhz band more successfully than the other.
• a software issue which delays signal switching from one tower to another - especially when attenuated.
Reception seems to be unaffected for many, in high and low-signal areas - perhaps there's more to this than we're speculating.
Now that you mention it, Safari is much snappier on the iPhone 4.
It is a bit disgusting to see tech media fawning over
Oh please. The Android coverage as of late is overwhelming - not to mention the flooding of every comments board from Fandroids singing the praises of their favorite mobile OS - and shouting down those who disagree.
1) There is no Windows Phone 7 yet to report on.
2) Microsoft is a has-been in the mobile computing race. Only the most ardent Microsoft supporters even care about Windows Phone 7 at this point. Truth hurts.
"Aside from Signal Issue..."
"Aside from the president being shot, how was the play, Ms. Lincoln?"
"Aside from the president being shot, how was the play, Ms. Lincoln?"