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Aside from Signal Issue, Consumer Reports Rates iPhone 4 Highest Amongst All Smartphones
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So their conclusion should really be, "we CAN recommend it, but only if you test it first, assuming you live or travel where AT&Ts signal is weak. This phone may be betteror worsein weak conditions, depending on whether you use a case and on how you hold the phone. The same could be said of any phone, but more so in this instance due to the external antenna. Be sure to test making phone calls before your refund period is up!"
Consumer Report: Can't Recommend but Rated Best Smartphone!
Everyone knows Consumer Report stated it will not recommend the iPhone 4, but apparently they rated/scored the iPhone 4 as the best smartphone out there over the 3GS and EVO.
Go figure.
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...-4-is-also-the-best-smartphone-on-the-market/
Everyone knows Consumer Report stated it will not recommend the iPhone 4, but apparently they rated/scored the iPhone 4 as the best smartphone out there over the 3GS and EVO.
Go figure.
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...-4-is-also-the-best-smartphone-on-the-market/
Sounds like Consumer reports got paid off to say something bad about the iPhone 4 after thier score of 76/100 and that it was the best smart phone. They still say it's the best, but because of the antenna issue "we can't recomend it", I wounder who paid them to say that? I'll bet they all have one! I still can't get over how big of a deal some people are making out of the antenna issue, I mean come on, they had to go out of there way to make it happen in there labs and under normal testing they couldn't get it to happen!!! Under "normal" testing they said it was the best smart phone!!!
The so called antenna issue does not bother me at all, and I can only get it to drop a bar or 2 in a bad signal area but still never drop a call or data!!!
The iPhone 4 is the best smart phone period!!!
The so called antenna issue does not bother me at all, and I can only get it to drop a bar or 2 in a bad signal area but still never drop a call or data!!!
The iPhone 4 is the best smart phone period!!!
Looking at the actual CR chart, every phone they tested (including the Android phones on Verizon & Sprint) didn't fare particularly well on voice quality. They all did quite well on messaging though, including the iPhones.
Ah, but other phones in the list do have flash, so it would be a differentiator, WARTS AND ALL.
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Plus, 2 whole percentages points uh ? Somehow, I'd rather have a phone that scored 74 but can make calls than a glorified iPod with what looks to be a phone feature.
I'm seriously hating my 3GS for its phone capabilities. As a mobile Internet device it is awesome. As a gameboy, it does its job well. As a phone, it sucks something fierce. Reception is lousy compared to 4 year old phones sitting right besides it on the same carrier. Voice quality isn't any better than a free on a contract phone.
Apple needs to work on the phone part. A lot.
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Plus, 2 whole percentages points uh ? Somehow, I'd rather have a phone that scored 74 but can make calls than a glorified iPod with what looks to be a phone feature.
I'm seriously hating my 3GS for its phone capabilities. As a mobile Internet device it is awesome. As a gameboy, it does its job well. As a phone, it sucks something fierce. Reception is lousy compared to 4 year old phones sitting right besides it on the same carrier. Voice quality isn't any better than a free on a contract phone.
Apple needs to work on the phone part. A lot.
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I disagree. What about the people who have received replacements and no longer have the issue in the same area? What about the people who no longer have the issue after trimming the sim? Why is it so hard to believe that this doesn't affect all ip4s?
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I disagree. What about the people who have received replacements and no longer have the issue in the same area? What about the people who no longer have the issue after trimming the sim? Why is it so hard to believe that this doesn't affect all ip4s?
I agree, but case doesn't help at all if you are in poor reception area. I have so many dropped calls even with case on .. i guess AT&T sucks in entire phoenix area.. almost all my friends in phoenix area have this problem.
"Aside from Signal Issue..."
How badly do you have to want to put a positive spin on this to phrase it like that. I'm a Mac only guy. I've never owned a Windoze computer.
But THIS IS A TELEPHONE. There is no "aside from". It doesn't properly serve it's primary purpose for people, end of story.
How badly do you have to want to put a positive spin on this to phrase it like that. I'm a Mac only guy. I've never owned a Windoze computer.
But THIS IS A TELEPHONE. There is no "aside from". It doesn't properly serve it's primary purpose for people, end of story.
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Except that it makes calls better than any previous iPhone if any of the following apply:
1) your phone doesn't have the issue
2) you're in a strong coverage area
3) you use a case
4) you don't grip your phone so as to cover the lower left
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Except that it makes calls better than any previous iPhone if any of the following apply:
1) your phone doesn't have the issue
2) you're in a strong coverage area
3) you use a case
4) you don't grip your phone so as to cover the lower left
The sim trimming is bogus. People that initially reported success with it came back and said it was. The phone simply connected to a different tower with better signal on boot up after the sim was removed and reinserted.
Same is probably true of exchanged iPhone 4s.
Fact is, no one who says they are "unaffected" have posted a clear video showing 2-3 bars and then putting their finger on the gap, clearly and visibly (the last video, the guy never showed the corner, only said he was covering it, yeah, we believe you pal..
) and not having the signal drop.Until they do, it's 100% of iPhone 4s.
So what Mac Rumors is basically saying is that "While the phone has cool stuff and looks good, go ahead and disregard the fact that is can't actually function as a phone".
Absurd.
No matter how hard you try, you can't bury the story.
Absurd.
No matter how hard you try, you can't bury the story.
Anyone ever heard of conformation bias? There have been studies that show that one is more satisfied with a given product as amount of money spent increases. Anyone who forks out excess of $200-$300 on a phone and then $100 per month is going to be hard to be pressed to unhappy with their product.
iPhone 4
I guess that it is natural with all the hype that Apple has attracted with its iPhone and iPad products, that they will also attract comments from all and sundry. Anything negative will be jumped on from a lofty height which is what we are now witnessing.
It is a pity regarding the signal issue, and this plus Apple's slow responses to this problem and others like the MacPro overheating problem makes me seriously consider whether the iPhone4 and IPad are really worth buying with the known problems and no Flash. I hate to say this but the latest Androids are a very serious threat to the iPhone and I can view both my websites without issues which is not the case with the iPhone 3GS I own.
I think Steve has acted foolishly regarding Adobe and Flash and as HTML5 is years behind flash in terms of functionality, and whilst I appreciate the open source argument, without flash the internet functionality is reduced to an unacceptable extent. It was not a wise business decision, as it works fine on an Android without significant battery loss. I am sure many within Apple share the same sentiments.
Think again Steve..., life is too short...
I guess that it is natural with all the hype that Apple has attracted with its iPhone and iPad products, that they will also attract comments from all and sundry. Anything negative will be jumped on from a lofty height which is what we are now witnessing.
It is a pity regarding the signal issue, and this plus Apple's slow responses to this problem and others like the MacPro overheating problem makes me seriously consider whether the iPhone4 and IPad are really worth buying with the known problems and no Flash. I hate to say this but the latest Androids are a very serious threat to the iPhone and I can view both my websites without issues which is not the case with the iPhone 3GS I own.
I think Steve has acted foolishly regarding Adobe and Flash and as HTML5 is years behind flash in terms of functionality, and whilst I appreciate the open source argument, without flash the internet functionality is reduced to an unacceptable extent. It was not a wise business decision, as it works fine on an Android without significant battery loss. I am sure many within Apple share the same sentiments.
Think again Steve..., life is too short...
http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/question-day-229/topics/how-consumer-reports-critical-review
Ever met someone and thought they were the greatest thing walking, when after a while you find out they aren't so great?
Sounds like this iphone 4
Ever met someone and thought they were the greatest thing walking, when after a while you find out they aren't so great?
Sounds like this iphone 4
CR did not serve their readership well.
CR didn't serve their readers very well, yet they did get to be seen as their readers' champions. They're insisting on Apple fixing the problem.
The CR rating method minimized the distance between the iPhone its 'competitors'. CR ranked all the features of weak 'feature' phones and none of the features of a super smartphone.
As a result, the iPhone was ranked only 1% to 3% better than the others.
What about CR rankings of the following? Where are they?
Ongoing Technical Support
Quality and Choice of Available Apps
User Experience of in-warranty and out-warranty repair
Ease of Use
Security and Reliability
FaceTime (or equivalent)
iTunes (or equivalent)
iMovie (or equivalent)
720p video recording
photo quality
resale value
multi tasking ease of use and simplicity
sw upgrade process
backup and restore process
I know Android has some features iPhone is missing, but let's have at them; what are they?
Free voice directed GPS,
and some others.
CR didn't serve their readers very well, yet they did get to be seen as their readers' champions. They're insisting on Apple fixing the problem.
The CR rating method minimized the distance between the iPhone its 'competitors'. CR ranked all the features of weak 'feature' phones and none of the features of a super smartphone.
As a result, the iPhone was ranked only 1% to 3% better than the others.
What about CR rankings of the following? Where are they?
Ongoing Technical Support
Quality and Choice of Available Apps
User Experience of in-warranty and out-warranty repair
Ease of Use
Security and Reliability
FaceTime (or equivalent)
iTunes (or equivalent)
iMovie (or equivalent)
720p video recording
photo quality
resale value
multi tasking ease of use and simplicity
sw upgrade process
backup and restore process
I know Android has some features iPhone is missing, but let's have at them; what are they?
Free voice directed GPS,
and some others.
Fact is, no one who says they are "unaffected" have posted a clear video showing 2-3 bars and then putting their finger on the gap, clearly and visibly (the last video, the guy never showed the corner, only said he was covering it, yeah, we believe you pal..
Until they do, it's 100% of iPhone 4s.
Fact is, there are many, many users on this forum and elsewhere who cannot reproduce the problem no matter where they are or what they do. Fact is, the alarmists want this to be present on 100% of phones because it furthers their agenda. Fact is, I'm about as likely to believe someone with a defective phone saying they're all bad as I am to believe someone with a good phone saying they all work fine.
No. Good lord, what on earth is wrong with people when it comes to this issue. Is it a problem? Yes, absolutely, at least for some people. Did apple screw up, big time? No question. Is software going to fix it? I highly doubt it.
But "it can't actually function as a phone"? Get a grip. It can function as a phone if you do any of the following: use it in a strong coverage area; use a case; don't hold it in one particular way.
I haven't seen many iphone 4s in the wild yet, but I'd say a good 75+% of 3G/3GS users have cases, and I'd assume at least that % of iphone 4 users (if not more due to the glass back) will have cases. So that's 3/4 or more of your user base that will never know this issue exists unless they read about it. Feel free to speculate how many other people live in strong coverage areas and/or naturally hold it so the strip isn't covered.