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What the hell does 2.03 pounds mean? What is .03 pounds? Is that what you get when you divide a pound into 33 equal parts? They should just say 2 and 1/33 pounds.


Or they could say that the ZenBook is 910 grams and the MacBook is 10 grams more at 920 grams. What am I missing? Americans are now comfortable with millimeters but not grams?
 
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It's 1080p.. how can that not be classed as the mythical retina?

1920x1080 on a 12.5 display are 176 ppi. Quite a good resolution, but probably not enough to not be able to distinguish pixels anymore when sitting in front of it.
 
Great specs screen not so much. But it does show what Apple should be doing hardware wise. Windows 10 once you tame its spyware trends runs well, its just the bloatware that comes with all Windows laptops that puts me off. Short of reinstalling Windows 10 trying to remove all the offers, games, extras you never use is a royal pain.
 
Great specs screen not so much. But it does show what Apple should be doing hardware wise. Windows 10 once you tame its spyware trends runs well, its just the bloatware that comes with all Windows laptops that puts me off. Short of reinstalling Windows 10 trying to remove all the offers, games, extras you never use is a royal pain.

Razer notebooks doesn't come with bloatware :cool:

And even comes with that extension dock thing which allows desktop class GPU to be connected to it.

Really hope Apple doesn't skimp on the upcoming MBP refresh hardwares.
 
Yeah what do you expect? A bag of potatoes are faster than the entire Mac line-up since they haven't been updated properly.

Edit: Ships with a USB-C adapter included? How generous, take notes Apple...
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TBH I don't care about speed THAT much. The single biggest flaw with Apple's machines (aside from the MBP) is that none of them have proper graphic cards.

A mid-level graphics card would probably make my 2010 i7 MBP faster than most of Apple's current line-up.
 
Windows 10 may be more efficient than older versions, but I'm pretty sure that it still requires far more resources than OS X at idle. I believe the same system will use almost double the power and produce almost double the heat.

And your basis for that comment is?
Based on my experience with replacing a 2012 Mini with a HP desktop running W10 has been a great one and not only does an older system do more with less, it's also proved more stable to date..
 
I agree they're taking their time on it but a) Intel botched their road map and Apple has been waiting for Skylake in volume, and b) people aren't running to competitors (and switching to Windows) in droves anyway. Our company just bought 22 MacPros and they are still good machines. There may be new ones next month at WWDC, that's typically where they're announced.

I will bet you one 2013 mac pro that you're wrong.
 
Great specs screen not so much. But it does show what Apple should be doing hardware wise. Windows 10 once you tame its spyware trends runs well, its just the bloatware that comes with all Windows laptops that puts me off. Short of reinstalling Windows 10 trying to remove all the offers, games, extras you never use is a royal pain.

Actually got rid of all the "bloatware", and my windows 10 is now spyware free. Have an iphone and it puts me off that I cannot delete most of the pre-installed that come along with osx and ios: tips, stocks, music, mail, etc There are far more better third party app that offer better functionality and are user-friendly and appealing UI.

I don't understand why windows is being criticized so much. I have never had any problem.
 
Fingerprint sensors included in our notebooks / desktop computer keyboards (in combination with a clever software communicating with our Internet browsers) to finally get rid of typing/saving passwords for every online account is SO overdue. It's by far the safest, easiest and fastest way, we wouldn't even need password managers like 1Password anymore. We have 2016, when will this finally happen?!

Off the top of my head, I know Toshiba, HP and Lenovo have had integrated fingerprint readers as an option in their enterprise PCs for, probably more than a decade. I remember Toshiba had one produced by AuthenTec - the company that Apple bought - so there's no technical reason that it couldn't be included in their PCs as an option very easily
 
Hmmmm....presses thumb to unlock iphone, iphone tells everybody where I am, at all times, and how many times I have climbed up the stairs. Spyware.
Yes good idea to compare the OS of a PHONE, to that of a computer.
 
if the retina macbook had an i5 in it, it would be a no brainer. but that core M crap is really holding me back. I need something thats faster than my C2D 1.6Ghz 2010 Unibody Macbook Air and has design elements of 2016 not the same design as 2010. Why can't apple Adopt the same methodology as they have with iPhone.

Year one Design A
Year two Design A with specs bump
Year three Design B
Year four Design B with specs bump
etc etc.
 
No retina/HiDPI screen. Lost interest. (No wonder it's cheaper.)

Which is a shame as otherwise it looks quite nice.

I agree - notice how pathetic its RGB color coverage is. And it's a glossy screen. To me, that negates the aluminum case.
 
if the retina macbook had an i5 in it, it would be a no brainer. but that core M crap is really holding me back. I need something thats faster than my C2D 1.6Ghz 2010 Unibody Macbook Air and has design elements of 2016 not the same design as 2010. Why can't apple Adopt the same methodology as they have with iPhone.

Year one Design A
Year two Design A with specs bump
Year three Design B
Year four Design B with specs bump
etc etc.

You are better off getting a pro. This retina MacBook has no added value to a consumer, besides looking pretty neat. Its expensive, and is only good for word processing, social media and web surfing. By my knowledge tablets are capable of performing such simple task.
 
I don't get it why notebooks like these is able to put Intel Core i7 in it while the MacBook gets a crippled Intel Core M?

I remember the original MBA launch where SJ showed why netbooks is horrible and one of the points was Intel Atom (or along low powered processor or something) Guess what Apple, Core M is the new Atom, and you're using it in your MacBooks!

Apple doesn't do fans. That goes WAAAYYYYY back. Steve Jobs wanted his computers to be SILENT running. No fans = burnt knees. :)
 
How exactly is this a Macbook look alike? I'm sick of articles on this stupid site that act like EVERYTHING is a copy of a mac product. What juvenile nonsense.
 
You are better off getting a pro. This retina MacBook has no added value to a consumer, besides looking pretty neat. Its expensive, and is only good for word processing, social media and web surfing. By my knowledge tablets are capable of performing such simple task.

thats just plain BS. I run InDesign on my MacBook putting together 50+page documents and edit the images in photoshop...no problems to date. Its actually very snappy for non-continuous CPU tasks...maybe I'm wrong but i didn't realise InDesign is available for iOS?

but yeah, hold off to see what the new rMBP's are going to be like for sure.
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How exactly is this a Macbook look alike? I'm sick of articles on this stupid site that act like EVERYTHING is a copy of a mac product. What juvenile nonsense.

Have a look at the side view in the video at 17 sec. It tapers like a macbook. the 3.5mm port is in the exact same place, its got one usbc port in exactly the same place. the only thing that is different to the Macbook is that the lid is shiny gold rather than matt gold. its the same weight and same size... how does it actually not look alike to the Macbook? have a look at 1.09 in the video. if it wasn't for the fact they keys weren't black you'd swear it was a Macbook...
 
With that said, I have an HP laptop (work provided, not my purchase) that is supposedly a Macbook competitor, and sure it's specs on the box seem more impressive at a glance but oh my goodness I hate that thing, the screen is mediocre at best, the touchpad is AWEFUL, I would take some old 1990's trackpad or keyboard-joystick nub over this thing any day. the wifi constantly needs to be reset (and hates Airport Extreme/Time Capsule unless you disable/lower the security features) It needs to be rebooted every day or so to keep running, it has a hard time picking up screen changes even when loaded into it's docking station, etc., etc. For a while I just thought I got a lemon but we swapped for another new machine and it behaves exactly the same and several of my coworkers have the same/similar complaints.

For HP, that sounds like a very positive review. Everything they've made for the past 10 years has been crap. At this point, HP should be taken as a warning label.

As far as the Zenbook, it remains to be seen, but it should be interesting at least.
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1920x1080 on a 12.5 display are 176 ppi. Quite a good resolution, but probably not enough to not be able to distinguish pixels anymore when sitting in front of it.

That depends. If I view it from just twice as far as a cell phone screen, the angular size of the pixels to my eye will be the same as a 352ppi cell phone screen. "retina" depends on viewing distance as well as ppi.
 
I don't get it why notebooks like these is able to put Intel Core i7 in it while the MacBook gets a crippled Intel Core M? I remember the original MBA launch where SJ showed why netbooks is horrible and one of the points was Intel Atom (or along low powered processor or something) Guess what Apple, Core M is the new Atom, and you're using it in your MacBooks!
I'm running a 2010 Core2Duo MBP and its already too fast for what I am using it for. However it's also too heavy, too hot and uses too much battery. The Core M is vastly superior in performance per watt, performance per weight and performance per heat emission, compared to any other x86 chip. If you don't get that, than you're not interested in a small and light laptop. What you want is a powerful connectable notebook and that's the rMBP for you! Enjoy.
 
That depends. If I view it from just twice as far as a cell phone screen, the angular size of the pixels to my eye will be the same as a 352ppi cell phone screen. "retina" depends on viewing distance as well as ppi.

I know that and already had the further view distance in mind. The MacBook also "only" has 226 ppi (instead of about 350 ppi on the iPhone) and is still called "Retina" because of this. 176 ppi is a good notebook display, but not quite enough for not being able to distinguish pixels from normal viewing distance and not seeing the quality difference to a 226 ppi screen.
 
I would. I guess millions (minus MacRumors members) would, as long as it does not compromise the functionality I want out off it. The slimmer and lighter it is, the easier to carry around in my bags. If i want it to use it on my home desk, I would get a desktop.

That is so funny next to the thread of people crying that their Precious macs can't run Overwatch because Apple no longer makes a powerful enough machine. And of course Oculus dumped anorexic Apple.
 
thats just plain BS. I run InDesign on my MacBook putting together 50+page documents and edit the images in photoshop...no problems to date. Its actually very snappy for non-continuous CPU tasks...maybe I'm wrong but i didn't realise InDesign is available for iOS?

but yeah, hold off to see what the new rMBP's are going to be like for sure.
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Have a look at the side view in the video at 17 sec. It tapers like a macbook. the 3.5mm port is in the exact same place, its got one usbc port in exactly the same place. the only thing that is different to the Macbook is that the lid is shiny gold rather than matt gold. its the same weight and same size... how does it actually not look alike to the Macbook? have a look at 1.09 in the video. if it wasn't for the fact they keys weren't black you'd swear it was a Macbook...

It's a thin computer, so ALL thin computers are now MacBook ripoffs? Give me a break.
 
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