I think I saw this exact same quote from the cart and horse salesmen, back when ford started producing the model T.
The model T was significantly less than $3500, so maybe you are right.
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At $3,500, will you buy a Vision Pro?
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The model T was significantly less than $3500, so maybe you are right.
If it came in at 1999 or less, I would totally have considered it. I know the tech is huge, but a first generation, that kind of cost, for no apps… i wish I could justify it.
Interestingly though, I would never have considered it, but the suggestion that you can watch movies in addition to work in a custom, unique environment, has me intrigued.
I bought a house with no tv location and for years I’ve been considering renovating a family room to fit for a large movie/media room. Probably cost a few grand to renovate and another 5k+ to get the speakers and television etc.
This is very very intriguing to forgo the reno and all the expensive equipment and buy a device that is more immersive with more use cases.
The only problem is, I would need a second for the wife in order to watch movies together, and that’s just crazy. Especially for a first gen product.
Interestingly though, I would never have considered it, but the suggestion that you can watch movies in addition to work in a custom, unique environment, has me intrigued.
I bought a house with no tv location and for years I’ve been considering renovating a family room to fit for a large movie/media room. Probably cost a few grand to renovate and another 5k+ to get the speakers and television etc.
This is very very intriguing to forgo the reno and all the expensive equipment and buy a device that is more immersive with more use cases.
The only problem is, I would need a second for the wife in order to watch movies together, and that’s just crazy. Especially for a first gen product.
For some users, absolutely. But for universal use? That depends both on eye strain, and the ability to correct vision. Right off I see a major challenges for folks with contact lenses and reading glasses. Do you correct for contacts out, contacts in, or contacts plus readers? My focal distance with out any lenses is about 3 inches, which is the distance of screen to eye, so that should work if I have them in opaque mode. But if in transparent AR mode, I couldn't see distant. Correct for distance, and there's no way I could read the screen. Really interested to know how that gets resolved (VR is actually easier than AR).
Escape materialism through mediation! But first, just pay $3500 for this gadget.
The cost has absolutely nothing to do with it.
The fact that it can only run baby iPad apps, instead of Mac apps, is why I won't buy one. The prospect of having unlimited app real estate for Mac apps that can actually do things, is worth $3500. Maybe more. But having another iPad that I can see in AR is not worth that. Not anything close to it.
About the only thing it appears really useful for is content consumption, and within that, watching movies appears to be the killer app. So $3500 to watch movies, by myself. Another hard pass.
The fact that it can only run baby iPad apps, instead of Mac apps, is why I won't buy one. The prospect of having unlimited app real estate for Mac apps that can actually do things, is worth $3500. Maybe more. But having another iPad that I can see in AR is not worth that. Not anything close to it.
About the only thing it appears really useful for is content consumption, and within that, watching movies appears to be the killer app. So $3500 to watch movies, by myself. Another hard pass.
How? It has to natively run Mac apps in order to start replacing monitors. Running iPad apps gets us no where.
I think you are greatly over estimating how portable this thing is. Most of the usage is going to be sitting in one place. Which means you could just as easily plug it in to the wall as a the battery. I don't think the battery is going to be problem at all, because people aren't going to be walking around with it.
Man how I wish it was. But it's not. It's an iPad in your face.
Which is altogether different from running Mac apps the way the vision apps run. Projecting a single 4K display from a Mac is not any benefit at all. Vision apps basically give you unlimited screen real estate. If that experience were possible for the Mac, it would be an instant buy for every single Apple developer. But that's not what it is.
While maybe not ideal it does have its benefits. The apps that run on Vision can be set to the sides and then the Mac would only be needed for that which only runs on it. Something like Adobe InDesign on the Mac in the center then Messages, Safari and whatnot on the sides.
That's not how software development works bud. I know what you're trying to say, but those of you who are not developers don't seem to have any idea of what goes into it, and how far away iPad and vision are from being able to participate in it.
To me, what they are offering is a very slick way to do things I can already do with my devices. It will be interesting to see where developers take it.
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You sound like a blackberry user when the iphone was unveiled. “We already have a keyboard”
I'm not sure you see what I was saying. Look at the scene after 1:32:19 just after they first show the Mac appearing within Vision. The presenter states the Mac works seamlessly within Vision and then they show desktop Final Cut Pro flanked by the Vision version of Pages and the photos app.
Sure it would be ideal for Vision to run actual desktop apps. Doesn't appear they're going to do that. In a pinch it would be acceptable for the Mac to present all of its apps as separate Vision entities. Maybe a future revision will bring that.
No, at that price it's just "Silly money". I really think atm it is just a big MacPro monitor all the included apps seem to be just mail, iMessage, calendar and Safari in a floating window. I don't really understand the gain. It's a nice idea don't get me wrong, but the design seems very derivative of every other VR helmet/goggles out there. Yes, apple have engineered the hell out of it, but it's still chunky and with a weird external (2 hour!) battery and with that price tag i'm not sure who their intended target market are. Is this another Newton? If in a few years, if it's still on sale and has evolved a long way and has a price of a high end iPhone, then it's a maybe. But as Meta and Microsoft have already pulled out of the VR market (apples only real competition) I don't see where apple will go with this.
Not for Gen 1. Think back to when Apple Watch 1.0 came out and how Apple didn't know how to price the thing with expensive gold materials that went upwards to $10,000+. At the same time, Apple could keep the price $3500 forever and just change out the hardware over time, the way they do with iPhone/iPad/Apple Watch prices.
Gen 2 or 3 are usually the best time to jump in on new Apple product categories.
Gen 2 or 3 are usually the best time to jump in on new Apple product categories.
My family member attending university studying hardware/software. She does what she loves. In our home tech-driven, by our own study and work experiences. I said this before, the medical field is dev more of these devices for remote applications. Japan has and is dev medical applications (and no not including the Apple Watch) isn't one recognized. Housing and business are very interested in this technology. Buying it is good, it applies to all of us and what we do. My daughter will love this.
The short answer is no, but it's more complicated than the price. I said on another thread that this is a really cool thousand dollar headset, but I also understand that the hardware is well beyond what can be sold for a grand, even outside of the Apple tax.
The $3500 isn't necessarily a problem. We've been spoiled with tech pricing for a long time, and the (ahem) older members here remember a time when buying something cool - especially on the Mac side - meant spending at least $5K, and that was in '80s dollars. I remember when my Dad brought home a used Apple LaserWriter - he spent over $4K on it (I think retail was closer to $7K), and it was absolutely groundbreaking at a time where the majority of my classmates didn't have a computer at home, and those that did were typically using Print Shop on an Apple II paired to an ImageWriter. But damn, that thing was over $11K used in today's dollars. But the output was so far ahead of anything else that existed on the consumer side, I still think it was worth every penny (easy for me to say of course - Dad was footing the bill).
So I can imagine spending $3500, but it can't just be an expensive luxury gadget. Apple needs to convince me that owning one of these things will provide me with an experience that simply does not exist elsewhere. And their presentation while cool, didn't quite do that. I'll reserve judgement until I try one in real life - maybe it'll blow my mind and I'll open my wallet. But until then? 🤷
The $3500 isn't necessarily a problem. We've been spoiled with tech pricing for a long time, and the (ahem) older members here remember a time when buying something cool - especially on the Mac side - meant spending at least $5K, and that was in '80s dollars. I remember when my Dad brought home a used Apple LaserWriter - he spent over $4K on it (I think retail was closer to $7K), and it was absolutely groundbreaking at a time where the majority of my classmates didn't have a computer at home, and those that did were typically using Print Shop on an Apple II paired to an ImageWriter. But damn, that thing was over $11K used in today's dollars. But the output was so far ahead of anything else that existed on the consumer side, I still think it was worth every penny (easy for me to say of course - Dad was footing the bill).
So I can imagine spending $3500, but it can't just be an expensive luxury gadget. Apple needs to convince me that owning one of these things will provide me with an experience that simply does not exist elsewhere. And their presentation while cool, didn't quite do that. I'll reserve judgement until I try one in real life - maybe it'll blow my mind and I'll open my wallet. But until then? 🤷